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Yep…and the comment about programming resources being constrained and not wanting to steal any thunder from the Z9 when it's released is also right on. They put the second processor in the 6II and 7II for a reason…and the recently released firmware for the original 6 and 7 apparently bring them close to what the II models have now…so there's no reason not to expect ongoing firmware updates for the IIs just like we see them for the older 6 and 7.
I'm guessing we'll see it in the Z7III and Z6III…which will be late 22 or early 23 based on the timeline of the original to the II models (at least that's what I remember guessing back a few months ago). I also think we'll see the new models have an Expeed 7 and at least the Z9 sensor in the 7III in order to spread the dev costs of those out over more bodies and increase performance of the models that they'll sell a lot more of than the 9. I'm not expecting to see full Z9 performance out of them…there will be technical issues that limit somewhat due to battery capacity issues and whatever else…and in addition they will want to dumb down…for lack of a better term…the specs to keep some differentiation between it and the 9 and to keep the price points they want to achieve. So…perhaps only 15 FPS in full RAW, 22 or 23 instead of 30 and either skip the 120 FPS mode or drop it to 60 or whatever to help keep that differentiation. Alternatively…this could be a Z8 or whatever else they want to call it…but given that the 20/30/120 on the 9 will be considered state of the art and considering the specs of the various Sony and Canon models they need to keep the 6/7 non pro series feature comparable as much as possible to their competition in those price ranges.
I totally get what you're saying and completely understand double processors don't mean double the capability of the device. What I'm saying is the first generation cameras are pretty much on par with the gen 2 bodies. It only stands to reason that the camera absolutely has to be capable of more. What percentage of more, who knows! What irks me is, I could have kept the first generation z6&7 and been just about where I am now. I could care less about two card slots and the video capabilities but that's just me. Anyhow, I made the choice to buy these hoping future firmware updates and the implementation of two processors would leave room for updated capabilities, so its on me. I guess you live and learn lol.
I agree that we can't expect anything like the performance of the Z9 in the Z6/7ii even after many potential future FW updates. The different capabilities of the processors and sensors will not allow such improvements.
Yeah, I have been looking more at other brands of cameras this week than I have in the last decade or so. I really don’t want to start over with a new system and go through all that BS and hassle but if something doesn’t change soon then that’s most likely the direction I’ll head in. Like I’ve always said these cameras for 85 to 90% of what I do they’re fine but there’s just a few things and it’s mostly were focusing that really aggravate me and caused me to miss shots that shouldn’t be missed with birds. Even if they would improve the more expensive Z7ii to be capable of more than the Z6ii that would even be acceptable. Basically if you have these two bodies, you have a high megapixel camera and a lower megapixel camera. It seems there should be something paying a premium price for the Z7ii that there should be something other than megapixel count to differentiate these cameras.
Actually, I don't think it was a gimmick - and I can't believe it was only to support dual media, though perhaps in combination with a slightly higher fps. So I do expect/hope for some notable improvements for the Z6/7ii still. But yes, we have no clue as to what the 2nd processor really does, and to what extend such improvements are technically feasible.
I am not sure I can feel disappointment about the lack of FW for a camera that I have actually not yet bought. If I am disappointed in Nikon it is about having to guess whether or when we might see a Z70 DX camera with IBIS and great AF. Such a camera would fit with my existing investment in Nikon - and this disappointment has had me seriously considering other options. But after considering I have concluded I will stay with Nikon.
You’re probably right lol. Also add to the fact that I’m recovering from a major right arm surgery and can’t even hold a camera at this point. I do definitely agree that sometimes reading article after article can start to play tricks on your mind. Probably just overly emotional now lol. If you don’t mind me asking where did you sell your Z7ii?
I’ve never sold on there but have visited the site a few times. Not sure if they charge fees or not.
You're right…they can't really do much about the FPS without upgrading to the Z9 sensor in the Z7 which is what I think will be in the Z7III or whatever it's called.
For the longest time I used DX Nikon DSLR cameras for my hobby photography that included mostly travel, landscape and wildlife work. I did not often make images of fast-moving animals or birds, so BIF capabilities was never a pressing need for me, and for that reason I never purchased the more pro-like DX bodies. I started with Nikon D70S, then D90, D7000, and lastly D7500. I made great images with all of them. I always longed for the better IQ in the FX sensors but I did not like the size and weight associated with those bodies. That all changed when Nikon launched the Z mirrorless cameras. Here suddenly was an FX sensor in a body that's smaller and lighter than the D7500. I made the switch to the Z6 at that point.
