Official Nikon Z9 Launch, Info, and Discussion Thread

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other things to think about in these types of comparisons:

1) while O has reasonably pointed out that just putting them on default settings and seeing what happens is a reasonable test and "fair" to an extent, it's not really finding out what these cameras can do. optimally one would learn what the best approaches for any given context and use that approach in that context. as a result, you cannot extrapolate the performance in these tests to say "i would or would not have gotten this shot" because of the difference shown in these "default settings" kind of tests.

1.5) there is a lot nuance to what is going on behind the scenes with these af systems that, afaik, nobody really knows, and that understanding is really going to be key to using these systems effectively. as an example, i have a hunch that some of these examples where the camera didn't stick with the subject, it's not an issue of it wasn't set to a "sticky enough" setting, but rather the camera didn't realize the person emerging from behind the obstruction was the _same_ subject, and so when it regains the subject, it's really acquiring a "new" subject from its perspective. if that is the case, increasing the "stickyness" setting may work _against_ you. again, i'm not saying it's specifically the case, but pointing out that really understanding them is going to be key to effectively using them and a small change in understanding may dramatically impact your effectiveness.

2) nikon mirrorless cameras have had a history where the little boxes that show the focus don't always keep up with what the camera is actually doing. while less pronounced, it seems to also be true with the z9. that is to say, the boxes sometimes lag behind the actual focus. so you really need to review the images, not just the evf recording to know how things go. a lot of people have made observations based on viewing evf footage alone.

3) it appears that doing an evf recording has an adverse effect on the z9. it isn't clear exactly how or how much, but folks noted that the fps slowed down when you added an evf recorder, so it's possible it also effects other things like af.

4) there are other variables, like af speed of the lens which are not really quantified in a lot of these tests, like... how fast can the 50 1.2s focus**? also, you can speculate if you should be shooting basketball at 1.2. it's a neat trick, and _maybe_ that's what you want to do, but the reality is, maybe that doesn't indicate the overall abilities of the af system. or... maybe a better way to think about it is, comparing at 1.2 is, perhaps, really arguing over very small differences.

which isn't to say nikon is best or anything like that. just that take these types of "tests" with a HUGE grain of salt. i think almost everyone would be well served with either the a1, r3 or z9, and the camera is probably not the reason you didn't get the shot with any of those cameras.

** which isn't to say that other parts of the system, like lenses don't count. if the nikon primes are slow to focus, that would be a valid consideration when considering the system. certainly sony has made a point to put multiple motors in many of the GM primes to provide fast focusing lenses, and that's a benefit, surely. otoh, we don't know if they made any trade-offs, like long term reliability, or whatever.


Hmmm, too many variables. I guess the best thing is to hear from someone who has shot one of R3 or A1 & Z9. Ideally, he or she shouldn't be biased but at the same time not be diplomatic.
 
The challenges so well summarized by John Navitsky give owners of the new Z9 a useful baseline to optimizing the AF. For those invested in any system (Nikon in this thread), this is more than enough to deal with, as the majority are embedded in the DSLRs and Z6/Z7. The deeper features of the D5 AF engine took some investment to unpick and learn in the D500 and D850; and similar applies to the still new D6 AF engine, despite its similarities to previous DSLRs.

Many of us have too many other priorities to attend to. Thus, comparing AF systems in different systems is off the radar, mainly because attempts are too misleading - rushed out in a social media post seeking an audience. Far too superficial and riddled with elementary mistakes etc. I don't believe I'm not alone in ignoring this stuff as clickbait.

It will takes months of strictly controlled tests to try and glimpse what's going with the AF in the respective black-boxes of high end ILCs.
 
Hmmm, too many variables. I guess the best thing is to hear from someone who has shot one of R3 or A1 & Z9. Ideally, he or she shouldn't be biased but at the same time not be diplomatic.


The Sony A1 was released ....................................................1 year ago, 3D FT Works very well, not quite as sticky as the D6 in challenging sports action.
The Canon R3 was released .................................................4 months ago, 3D FT Works very well.
The Z9 was released................................................................ 1 month ago, 3D FT works sought of well but needs more work to get it on par.

If the A1 stickiness is very slightly behind the D6 in critical sports action, then logically the Z9 must be even slightly further behind the D6 in critical sports action, Now i haven't seen any evidence to dismiss this thought - analogy.

Wild life photgraphy is challenging at best but i feel in most situations its not as demanding or challenging for focusing.


After 2 years of development of the Z9 and 12 months example from Sony, sort of speaks volumes..........
Nikon still has a little way to go to catch up if they can, i am hopeful they will.

I feel the coming of the A1 II will be a leap forward, Canons R1 will be built on the back of the R3 with a lot more plus.

Nikon has focused on the Z9 video compnent very well, i feel at the expense of 3 D focus tracking sytem, that today still needs a bit of work or help. I hope they deliver.............

I feel there are some very valid points on this subject.......knowledge/information shared can really help.

The subject for me is about the industry state of 3D tracking focusing, its technology, performance, reliability and above all user friendliness, as well as understanding what is real, what is perception, what works brilliantly, great, or just OK and why in cases its so complicated to get the best out of some cameras.........

Using optimum performance settings will improve performance in each camera understandably, however understanding how to drive each camera perfectly is more complex than ever for the uninitiated end users who don't deserve to deal with such complexity.

Ideally a camera should be just turned on, then turn on 3D focus tracking and it should just work period, not having to adjust or fine tune different settings for each scenario...........

In the case of Sony and Canon neither is 100% perfect however the gap between them is small, the Z9 is behind both by a little margin, maybe a tad more than little, that's well known, how complex each system is to drive to optimum levels is i don't know, and frankly i shouldn't have deal with it.

I am a photographer not a fighter pilot.

I think the test by Jarrod is simple and about the same as how a new buyer would expect a new camera to dleiver, turn it on, turn on 3D and it should just work...........how good became evident in Jarrod's test.
 
The challenges so well summarized by John Navitsky give owners of the new Z9 a useful baseline to optimizing the AF. For those invested in any system (Nikon in this thread), this is more than enough to deal with, as the majority are embedded in the DSLRs and Z6/Z7. The deeper features of the D5 AF engine took some investment to unpick and learn in the D500 and D850; and similar applies to the still new D6 AF engine, despite its similarities to previous DSLRs.

Many of us have too many other priorities to attend to. Thus, comparing AF systems in different systems is off the radar, mainly because attempts are too misleading - rushed out in a social media post seeking an audience. Far too superficial and riddled with elementary mistakes etc. I don't believe I'm not alone in ignoring this stuff as clickbait.

It will takes months of strictly controlled tests to try and glimpse what's going with the AF in the respective black-boxes of high end ILCs.

I hear you about the click bates and trending influence-rs, however in this case, I don't think Jarrod is doing click bait on this test, he has validated what other people have experienced in the filed as well. He previously did the same test using Using Sony Canon and Nikon, he is doing nothing different, his summary is Nikon has come a long way in closing the gap on its competitors.

DP review did their coalface tests and yes they came up with similar conclusion.

I feel.......... Steve/Thom after extensive forensic testing will come to the conclusion that Nikon has improved significantly with their mirror less tracking and closed the gap on the competition, however it needs to just go that bit further to catch up fully. Steve and Thom will both offer very welcomed tips and guide to get he best out of your Z9 focusing, i cant wait.

Ok so before investing in a mountaine of Z glass, i feel the new A1 II and R1 should be that step further ahead again....as a Z9 owner its looking like a little more than catch up I would feel.

Only an opinion............
 
He didn’t use out of the box settings though. He adjusted them to what he thought would work and would be the equivalent. I don’t know enough about the different systems to know if they all translate to the exact same configuration or if these settings mean/do different things in the different brands. Realistically, all these cameras have these fine tuning settings for different scenarios to make them perform for the given situation. You shouldn’t need to be adjusting them for every shot.
That's exactly right. Some of his setting choices for the Z9 were just plain wrong and he was failed to understand or use basic menu options that would improve his results. You can reliably test focus performance without having a good understanding of AF settings.

Steve and others spend days or weeks understanding the settings and how they work for specific situations, while Jarod simply expected it to work like any other camera with no effort to make changes or optimize. The default settings are fine to start, but the entire point of a flagship camera for experienced and advanced photographers is to provide the tool and options they need for different situations.

That ability and need to customize settings is why I found the learning curve for the Z6 to be more challenging than anything I had ever experienced. As a first step into advanced mirrorless, I needed to customize the iMenu and function buttons - and that meant understanding choices I would need to make quickly. Previously I had largely ignored customization on my DSLR - and that's not the way you get the most out of modern cameras - especially with an EVF display.
 
other things to think about in these types of comparisons:

1) while O has reasonably pointed out that just putting them on default settings and seeing what happens is a reasonable test and "fair" to an extent, it's not really finding out what these cameras can do. optimally one would learn what the best approaches for any given context and use that approach in that context. as a result, you cannot extrapolate the performance in these tests to say "i would or would not have gotten this shot" because of the difference shown in these "default settings" kind of tests.

1.5) there is a lot nuance to what is going on behind the scenes with these af systems that, afaik, nobody really knows, and that understanding is really going to be key to using these systems effectively. as an example, i have a hunch that some of these examples where the camera didn't stick with the subject, it's not an issue of it wasn't set to a "sticky enough" setting, but rather the camera didn't realize the person emerging from behind the obstruction was the _same_ subject, and so when it regains the subject, it's really acquiring a "new" subject from its perspective. if that is the case, increasing the "stickyness" setting may work _against_ you. again, i'm not saying it's specifically the case, but pointing out that really understanding them is going to be key to effectively using them and a small change in understanding may dramatically impact your effectiveness.

2) nikon mirrorless cameras have had a history where the little boxes that show the focus don't always keep up with what the camera is actually doing. while less pronounced, it seems to also be true with the z9. that is to say, the boxes sometimes lag behind the actual focus. so you really need to review the images, not just the evf recording to know how things go. a lot of people have made observations based on viewing evf footage alone.

3) it appears that doing an evf recording has an adverse effect on the z9. it isn't clear exactly how or how much, but folks noted that the fps slowed down when you added an evf recorder, so it's possible it also effects other things like af.

4) there are other variables, like af speed of the lens which are not really quantified in a lot of these tests, like... how fast can the 50 1.2s focus**? also, you can speculate if you should be shooting basketball at 1.2. it's a neat trick, and _maybe_ that's what you want to do, but the reality is, maybe that doesn't indicate the overall abilities of the af system. or... maybe a better way to think about it is, comparing at 1.2 is, perhaps, really arguing over very small differences.

which isn't to say nikon is best or anything like that. just that take these types of "tests" with a HUGE grain of salt. i think almost everyone would be well served with either the a1, r3 or z9, and the camera is probably not the reason you didn't get the shot with any of those cameras.

** which isn't to say that other parts of the system, like lenses don't count. if the nikon primes are slow to focus, that would be a valid consideration when considering the system. certainly sony has made a point to put multiple motors in many of the GM primes to provide fast focusing lenses, and that's a benefit, surely. otoh, we don't know if they made any trade-offs, like long term reliability, or whatever.


Very well covered, interesting read, i thank you for the time and effort, some good points noted.

I feel that things have become somewhat a little more complicated than one really wants to deal with in this mirror less tracking and stickiness etc.

I didn't buy the Z9 just because of its tracking. I mean i was led to believe it was a 11/10 and Nikon delivered what seems a 8.5 /10.
In some very ideal cases it did very well in locking on, in other cases it was so so, i put it down to me at the time.........
I agree that all three flag ships will be great in their own way.............
I guess the question is before investing further into Z glass, the door is still open to switch to Canon because of the glass and the pending R1.
 
That's exactly right. Some of his setting choices for the Z9 were just plain wrong and he was failed to understand or use basic menu options that would improve his results. You can reliably test focus performance without having a good understanding of AF settings.

Steve and others spend days or weeks understanding the settings and how they work for specific situations, while Jarod simply expected it to work like any other camera with no effort to make changes or optimize. The default settings are fine to start, but the entire point of a flagship camera for experienced and advanced photographers is to provide the tool and options they need for different situations.

That ability and need to customize settings is why I found the learning curve for the Z6 to be more challenging than anything I had ever experienced. As a first step into advanced mirrorless, I needed to customize the iMenu and function buttons - and that meant understanding choices I would need to make quickly. Previously I had largely ignored customization on my DSLR - and that's not the way you get the most out of modern cameras - especially with an EVF display.


It shouldn't have to be this hard, sensitive or challenging where you need to almost become a road scholar to use the Z system tracking to its potential, i don't want to be a fighter pilot i want remain a photographer. I think this complexity indicates the industry released and under developed focusing system and asking the consumer to do all the setting up to get it to work.

What Jarrod did on the Z9 was no different to what he did to the A1 R3 equally.

I think that the industry is not quite there yet with 3 D tracking etc as you need to use to many special settings combinations of settings to achieve a good results in each situation.
 
It shouldn't have to be this hard, sensitive or challenging where you need to almost become a road scholar to use the Z system tracking to its potential, i don't want to be a fighter pilot i want remain a photographer. I think this complexity indicates the industry released and under developed focusing system and asking the consumer to do all the setting up to get it to work.

What Jarrod did on the Z9 was no different to what he did to the A1 R3 equally.

I think that the industry is not quite there yet with 3 D tracking etc as you need to use to many special settings combinations of settings to achieve a good results in each situation.

I would expect the camera to be set up exactly as you describe in a consumer model, but the expectations of the photographer are different with a flagship camera. Every situation is not the same, and the flagships are designed to provide ultimate customization to skilled users who each specialize in different types of photography.

That's what Nikon tends to do with consumer models. The default settings are geared to Auto this and Auto that. Pick up a new consumer model and it's set for Auto ISO, Area AF, Auto Active D-lighting, Matrix metering, Auto exposure mode, etc. A consumer will get good exposures out of the box with no skill or training. If they are advanced enough to want more customization, they are expected to change the settings.
 
A primary reason for this product/brand specific thread is to filter out reliable material on a specific product (i.e. Z9) which is shared here because it's been judged relevant.

Once again - similarly to 2 weeks ago - a a cross camera "test" video by a utuber influencer diverts this Z9 thread, and now 3+ pages on is diagnosed as flawed. No surprises if this is also shown up as a rushed out social media post seeking an audience. There are many in this forum who refuse/cannot watch these videos, and thus we avoid the threads that share them. This unpalatble problem has been debated in this thread, so nothing more need to be said.

There are other threads more appropriate to discuss utubers' comparisons of cameras as to whether somehow or other this is "the Best/has the Best AF/Eye AF" etc e.g. https://bcgforums.com/index.php?threads/r3-vs-a1-for-sports-autofocus.11671/
 
It shouldn't have to be this hard, sensitive or challenging where you need to almost become a road scholar to use the Z system tracking to its potential, i don't want to be a fighter pilot i want remain a photographer. I think this complexity indicates the industry released and under developed focusing system and asking the consumer to do all the setting up to get it to work.

What Jarrod did on the Z9 was no different to what he did to the A1 R3 equally.

I think that the industry is not quite there yet with 3 D tracking etc as you need to use to many special settings combinations of settings to achieve a good results in each situation.
What it sounds like to me from what other members are saying is the default out of the box settings for the Nikon would have worked better than what he selected. To me, that is the farthest thing from needing to be a road scholar. You’re right that Jared changed the settings equally; at least in how it appears. He set them all to what is supposed to be ”stickiest” but what we don’t know is to what extent that impacts AF on each model. For example, if he had just said I’m going to set each camera to the fastest frame rate they can shoot for a particular test, they wouldn’t all have the same values/settings (or would they because they are all set to highest frame rate even though the values are significantly different). Say the test was to see if there is an impact to image quality by shooting the fastest frame rate. Well, one would be shooting RAW, one compressed RAW, one jpg. My point is saying the same doesn’t always mean the same. Maybe all three cameras were equally negatively impacted by the same unideal settings 🤷‍♂️. I am not trying to say his test was invalid or would have any different outcome if setting the cameras up for the most ideal settings for each.

i’m not sure what you are referring to when you say 3D tracking. Is this not a brand specific term referring to a specific AF mode? Do you mean subject detection/tracking or fully automated AF? I’m not understanding based on the way you’re using the term.
 
A primary reason for this product/brand specific thread is to filter out reliable material on a specific product (i.e. Z9) which is shared here because it's been judged relevant.

Once again - similarly to 2 weeks ago - a a cross camera "test" video by a utuber influencer diverts this Z9 thread, and now 3+ pages on is diagnosed as flawed. No surprises if this is also shown up as a rushed out social media post seeking an audience. There are many in this forum who refuse/cannot watch these videos, and thus we avoid the threads that share them. This unpalatble problem has been debated in this thread, so nothing more need to be said.

There are other threads more appropriate to discuss utubers' comparisons of cameras as to whether somehow or other this is "the Best/has the Best AF/Eye AF" etc e.g. https://bcgforums.com/index.php?threads/r3-vs-a1-for-sports-autofocus.11671/


I would ignore the comments that one does not wish to follow if I were you.
Water under the bridge.
We don't want to be control freaks. It is the Internet.
Let people express what they want as long as their behavior is appropriate.
For the better or worse I have learned a fair bit about photography from YouTubers, I am sure many have too. I even heard about Steve & this forum from his youtube videos.
They should not be looked down upon, IMO.
 
Definition of torture: Just got the call, my Z9 has arrived down the street at my LCS, AND I'm way too swamped with meetings for today and likely tomorrow so can't go get it! My local camera store got four in today and I'm not NPS, so fuller shipping has clearly gotten underway.
That would make me ill, and therefore I'd have to take a sick day. If they asked questions, you could honestly tell them, "Trust me; you don't want to catch what I've got!" ;)

Seriously, the store wouldn't stay open a bit late to let you drop by and pick it up? For that kind of money, were I the owner or manager, I'd stay late to deliver a Z9 to a good customer if they needed me to.
 
That would make me ill, and therefore I'd have to take a sick day. If they asked questions, you could honestly tell them, "Trust me; you don't want to catch what I've got!" ;)

Seriously, the store wouldn't stay open a bit late to let you drop by and pick it up? For that kind of money, were I the owner or manager, I'd stay late to deliver a Z9 to a good customer if they needed me to.
True story -- At the end of a meeting on Thursday mid afternoon I said to someone in that meeting and going to be in my following meeting that I was cancelling the next meeting and to let people know. I then cancelled the meeting that was to follow that meeting. I then put on my shoes and went and picked up my Z9 :)
 
I would expect the camera to be set up exactly as you describe in a consumer model, but the expectations of the photographer are different with a flagship camera. Every situation is not the same, and the flagships are designed to provide ultimate customization to skilled users who each specialize in different types of photography.

That's what Nikon tends to do with consumer models. The default settings are geared to Auto this and Auto that. Pick up a new consumer model and it's set for Auto ISO, Area AF, Auto Active D-lighting, Matrix metering, Auto exposure mode, etc. A consumer will get good exposures out of the box with no skill or training. If they are advanced enough to want more customization, they are expected to change the settings.

A very fresh perspective, thanks for giving it the thought that you have.
 
What it sounds like to me from what other members are saying is the default out of the box settings for the Nikon would have worked better than what he selected. To me, that is the farthest thing from needing to be a road scholar. You’re right that Jared changed the settings equally; at least in how it appears. He set them all to what is supposed to be ”stickiest” but what we don’t know is to what extent that impacts AF on each model. For example, if he had just said I’m going to set each camera to the fastest frame rate they can shoot for a particular test, they wouldn’t all have the same values/settings (or would they because they are all set to highest frame rate even though the values are significantly different). Say the test was to see if there is an impact to image quality by shooting the fastest frame rate. Well, one would be shooting RAW, one compressed RAW, one jpg. My point is saying the same doesn’t always mean the same. Maybe all three cameras were equally negatively impacted by the same unideal settings 🤷‍♂️. I am not trying to say his test was invalid or would have any different outcome if setting the cameras up for the most ideal settings for each.

i’m not sure what you are referring to when you say 3D tracking. Is this not a brand specific term referring to a specific AF mode? Do you mean subject detection/tracking or fully automated AF? I’m not understanding based on the way you’re using the term.

Thank you for your reply and comments..............and yes Jarrod's tests are not forensically done like say Thom, or with detailed, accurate field tests and solutions based with great technique advice as we have become accustomed to from Steve.

I do appreciate logical simple assessments, i believe in the 80/20 rule, don't spend 90% of your time proving the last 20% when things are clear at 80%.
The initial DP review field shoot with the Z9 was an indication of how the Z9 performed and tracked........as was proven to be close to the money, in Jarrod's case again his consistent quick and dirty tests articulate or not are proven to be also close to the money.

Jarrod did exactly the same simple logical quick and dirty test with the Z6 Z7 later to be proven to be close to the money and correct, then again the Z6II Z7II update also proven later to be correct, now the Z9 using the same procedure, and its proving to be correct, the end result was, he was absolutely correct about the Z system tracking and its weakness, improvements, and now he says hey the Z9 is awesome and very much closer to the competition than ever before, congratulations Nikon on a brilliant job.

We knew this before the Z9 shipped and that's OK we all cant be no 1..........and dose it really even matter, they are all great cameras.
Will Jarrod, Thom, Steve or others give up their A1 for a Z9...........with the A1 II and R1 still to come which will widen the gap even further from the Z9.............again using the 80/20 rule.

As a Nikon owner to be left behind for so long, promised the world and sate of the art, finally we get the Z9 with 2 years of hard work and development, we get spectacular Video capability we finally get a improved tracking system in need of still more work that well is closer to the money but not quite as good or even exceeding the current competition.

In Sony's case the A1 A9 has been out for more than 12 months, So we are here in January 2021 with the spectacular Z9 that's running 3rd in place, with the competitors ready to leap ahead again................i think Nikon needs to lift its game.............

The term 3D, sorry I mean the auto tracking eye tracking animal tracking etc etc regardless of brand, its the lock on tracking system i mean to refer to , yes you are right 3D is brand specific.

Only an opinion
 
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The term 3D, sorry I mean the auto tracking eye tracking animal tracking etc etc regardless of brand, its the lock on tracking system i mean to refer to , yes you are right 3D is brand specific.
Thanks for clarifying. As 3D tracking can have subject detection enabled or disabled and being brand specific I wanted to make sure I understood what you were referring to. This makes a lot more sense.
 
A primary reason for this product/brand specific thread is to filter out reliable material on a specific product (i.e. Z9) which is shared here because it's been judged relevant.

Once again - similarly to 2 weeks ago - a a cross camera "test" video by a utuber influencer diverts this Z9 thread, and now 3+ pages on is diagnosed as flawed. No surprises if this is also shown up as a rushed out social media post seeking an audience. There are many in this forum who refuse/cannot watch these videos, and thus we avoid the threads that share them. This unpalatble problem has been debated in this thread, so nothing more need to be said.

There are other threads more appropriate to discuss utubers' comparisons of cameras as to whether somehow or other this is "the Best/has the Best AF/Eye AF" etc e.g. https://bcgforums.com/index.php?threads/r3-vs-a1-for-sports-autofocus.11671/

I think its highly appropriate that if something is unpalatable or not to ones liking, by all means ignore it..............pass it by
 
Thanks for clarifying. As 3D tracking can have subject detection enabled or disabled and being brand specific I wanted to make sure I understood what you were referring to. This makes a lot more sense.

Thank you, i am picking up a drivers license application and booking some driving lessons, not for a car, but how to best drive the focus system on this Z9 LOL....

Steve is working on his, cant wait, Thom is also on the bit, Brad Hill is doing his upmost, but i really am waiting for Jarrod Polan's highly accurate Tips LOL, or even Greg Granger LOL.............

There has been a real lot of excellent tips helpful information from a lot of very nice people on this forum..............

Have another great day, ............Surfs up, water is unusually really warm............cant resist that.
 
Thank you, i am picking up a drivers license application and booking some driving lessons, not for a car, but how to best drive the focus system on this Z9 LOL....

Steve is working on his, cant wait, Thom is also on the bit, Brad Hill is doing his upmost, but i really am waiting for Jarrod Polan's highly accurate Tips LOL, or even Greg Granger LOL.............

There has been a real lot of excellent tips helpful information from a lot of very nice people on this forum..............

Have another great day, ............Surfs up, water is unusually really warm............cant resist that.
LOL, the focus system isn't really any more complex than the Canon or Sony. It's winter on this side of the equator so water isn't as warm, but there was some good waves today. :LOL:
 
True story -- At the end of a meeting on Thursday mid afternoon I said to someone in that meeting and going to be in my following meeting that I was cancelling the next meeting and to let people know. I then cancelled the meeting that was to follow that meeting. I then put on my shoes and went and picked up my Z9 :)
Good for you, Steven. I look forward to your shared images taken with the Z9.

I got to talk to the owner of the B&M camera shop I placed my order with, and he informed me that Z9 deliveries to his store are very stingy and don't seem to follow any pattern. He also said that they are still waiting for one last NPS assocoated Z9 order before they start non-NPS distribution. So it looks like it will be a while before I get my Z9, and I'll have to enjoy seeing others' Z9 photos and hearing them discuss camera settings optimization and performance.
 
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