HRB
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Its a question that has been beat to death on social media sites but I want to ask it in a different perhaps simpler way of all Nikon users. Its simple "would you trade in your D4S, D5 or D6 for a Z9"?
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Depends on what's important to you, and what type of photography you do. If advanced AF and fast frame rates are critical to your style of photography, then yes, I'd say the Z9 offers clear advantages over the DSLRs you mention. In my case, neither of these features is critical for what I photograph, so I'm in no hurry to "upgrade" to the Z9. Someday perhaps, but not now. I'm happy with my D850s - they serve me very well.Its a question that has been beat to death on social media sites but I want to ask it in a different perhaps simpler way of all Nikon users. Its simple "would you trade in your D4S, D5 or D6 for a Z9"?
They (D4s, D850) are now gone as are most of my f-mount lenses!Its a question that has been beat to death on social media sites but I want to ask it in a different perhaps simpler way of all Nikon users. Its simple "would you trade in your D4S, D5 or D6 for a Z9"?
And the good thing about that is those items can now be acquired by those who wish to use Nikon DSLRs and F-mount lenses. Win-win, IMO. Have fun with your Z9.They (D4s, D850) are now gone as are most of my f-mount lenses!
100% correct!! Been quite a while since I got new gear and I decided since I'm 72 that maybe I should just do it! LOLAnd the good thing about that is those items can now be acquired by those who wish to use Nikon DSLRs and F-mount lenses. Win-win, IMO. Have fun with your Z9.
Sold my D3s, D850 and D500 after getting my Z9 and getting comfortable with it. Have a Z7ii as my 2nd body and use it for hikes when shooting landscapes.Its a question that has been beat to death on social media sites but I want to ask it in a different perhaps simpler way of all Nikon users. Its simple "would you trade in your D4S, D5 or D6 for a Z9"?
Its a question that has been beat to death on social media sites but I want to ask it in a different perhaps simpler way of all Nikon users. Its simple "would you trade in your D4S, D5 or D6 for a Z9"?
You've got a pretty "outlier" experience compared to most others, I find this interesting given that the eye autofocus performance by most anybody has been touted as excellent and close to if not on par with Sony and Canon. Not discounting your personal feelings/findings, just find that interesting!Honestly, I sold my Z9 because the eye autofocus was unreliable. Even if the autofocus claims its locked on, it's a crap shoot whether it is or not on a relatively stationary target. It's not user error, or an individual camera issue, and it's certainly not the primes I'm using. It's just the software. Some skill with Nikon's Multi-CAM 20K system and you can outperform the Z9's automatic focusing, particularly when it locks on the wrong thing and won't let go.
Note: I do not shoot birds in flight, so that may be the real benefit to some.
Since I also found the 50mm 1.2 S disappointing, there was any real reason to stay on a Z mount at all. All four of my F mount lenses have not been replaced on Z mount, and I highly doubt any of them will in the near future.
Those considering whether to go to a Z mount from a DSLR should consider switching platforms at the time they decide to jump, or wait for details on the "Z8" like I am doing now. Z6/Z7 is completely obsolete by comparison to the Z9, unfortunately.
There's no sensor upgrade on the Z9 from the D850. You're essentially paying for auto focus software, and 120 fps in JPG format which I personally find useless --- there's very little I can't grab at 5 FPS and I rarely even put my camera on continuous high.
If you have a D5 or D6, liquidate it before it's practically worthless and pick up a Z9.
You make absolutely no sense. At the beginning of your post, you stated that you sold the Z9. It makes me wonder if you actually owned a Z9. Great camera.Honestly, I sold my Z9 because the eye autofocus was unreliable. Even if the autofocus claims its locked on, it's a crap shoot whether it is or not on a relatively stationary target. It's not user error, or an individual camera issue, and it's certainly not the primes I'm using. It's just the software. Some skill with Nikon's Multi-CAM 20K system and you can outperform the Z9's automatic focusing, particularly when it locks on the wrong thing and won't let go.
Note: I do not shoot birds in flight, so that may be the real benefit to some.
Since I also found the 50mm 1.2 S disappointing, there was any real reason to stay on a Z mount at all. All four of my F mount lenses have not been replaced on Z mount, and I highly doubt any of them will in the near future.
Those considering whether to go to a Z mount from a DSLR should consider switching platforms at the time they decide to jump, or wait for details on the "Z8" like I am doing now. Z6/Z7 is completely obsolete by comparison to the Z9, unfortunately.
There's no sensor upgrade on the Z9 from the D850. You're essentially paying for auto focus software, and 120 fps in JPG format which I personally find useless --- there's very little I can't grab at 5 FPS and I rarely even put my camera on continuous high.
If you have a D5 or D6, liquidate it before it's practically worthless and pick up a Z9.
Good to know.It was a Z6 with 70-200mm
And on a fairly stationary subject....not a BIF......Good to know.
You make absolutely no sense. At the beginning of your post, you stated that you sold the Z9. It makes me wonder if you actually owned a Z9. Great camera.
Then, you advise people to liquidate the D5 or D6, if you own one, and pick up a Z9. Talk about confusing!
You don't think that she didn't compete against BIF shoots? The bottom line is that she won a gold medal at the world championship competition, using Nikon equipment.And on a fairly stationary subject....not a BIF......
You've got a pretty "outlier" experience compared to most others, I find this interesting given that the eye autofocus performance by most anybody has been touted as excellent and close to if not on par with Sony and Canon. Not discounting your personal feelings/findings, just find that interesting!
As to the 50mm f/1.2 S, what do you find disappointing about it? I've found the lens to be immensely enjoyable, despite it being big and heavy. It is incredible for video application given the absent focus breathing and the separation it provides between subject and background in both photo and video is superb. Again, most feel the 50mm f/1.2 is in a league of its own, especially compared to the f mount 50mm's available, so find your take interesting as well!
I wasn't talking about the competition. Only commenting that the Z9 does fine with stationary subjects. It's generally small, fast moving subjects where it struggles compared to the A1.You don't think that she didn't compete against BIF shoots? The bottom line is that she won a gold medal at the world championship competition, using Nikon equipment.
Why do people always look for holes to run down or belittle everything under the sun. Are these critics jealous or just love to ***** about everything?
It is a completely new sensor design for Nikon. The only thing similar about it to the one in the D850 is that it is the same megapixels. The sensors in the D850 and Z7 cameras are not capable of the fast read necessary for 20fps.There's no sensor upgrade on the Z9 from the D850. You're essentially paying for auto focus software, and 120 fps in JPG format which I personally find useless --- there's very little I can't grab at 5 FPS and I rarely even put my camera on continuous high.
As a newcomer to the hobby as well as awaiting my order of a Z 9, I actually am curious to hear more on your Z9 findings, simply because I haven't read/seen much anywhere else in terms of eye autofocus criticism, so I do find it worth having the discussion if you feel inclined toThere’s little point in me discussing it apparently. I’m the outlier. I compare it to my 28mm 1.4E and the 50mm 1.2 is soft until F2. I don’t need an F2 lens.
I’d write more detail but I’m posting this from my phone.
I own the Z9. It doesn't struggle at all. Maybe you had an inferior Z9?I wasn't talking about the competition. Only commenting that the Z9 does fine with stationary subjects. It's generally small, fast moving subjects where it struggles compared to the A1.
You are funny. Did you look at Karen’s website before writing your post?I own the Z9 and it doesn't struggle at all. Maybe you had an inferior Z9 or you lack the proper skills to operate the Z9?