Can anyone tell me with certainty

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Good Morning I have a old AF-Nikkor 80 - 200mm f/2.8 D version ED Lens and would like to use a 1.4 and 2.0 TC with this lens. Can anyone tell me what version Nikon TC is needed as I'm not certain the newer TC's work on this lens, I felt the mounting was my issue. The camera bodies I use are the Nikon D5 and D500. Also regarding the cheaper generic TC's is there one better then the others that you would recommend. I prefer to use Nikon gear but in this case I am open to everyones input. Thank You in advance any help would be appreciated. Ray
 
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The Kenko TCs are very good, and actually are more compatible with many Nikon lenses., including AF and D ones. You may need to go that route.

Based on the chart, I suspect the older 80-200 is like the 70-300, with the rear element protruding to prevent compatibility with Nikon TCs. I have had a Kenko 2x TC for years, and it works fine. Their newer models are said to be better still.
 
As it turns out I'm not going to go that route as it seems that none of them will give me Auto focus only works on Manual focus. So I will look into getting an 80- 400mm G version which will work with my existing TC's. Thank you for your help
Ray
 
As it turns out I'm not going to go that route as it seems that none of them will give me Auto focus only works on Manual focus. So I will look into getting an 80- 400mm G version which will work with my existing TC's. Thank you for your help
Ray
Oh...I assume you mean none of the Nikons will give you autofocus. The Kenko will....
 
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According to BH Photo chat technical expert the Kenko will only work with that model of Nikon D series in manual only. Not knowing for sure I don't what to put out the money on one.
 
As it turns out I'm not going to go that route as it seems that none of them will give me Auto focus only works on Manual focus. So I will look into getting an 80- 400mm G version which will work with my existing TC's. Thank you for your help
Ray
The 80-400 G version doesn’t get a lot of love from many here. I’m happy with mine and it has served me well. The only thing I will say is don’t expect too much from it with a TC. IMO the 1.4 is marginal at best and the 2x I rate as poor. You might want to take some test photos with your TC’s if you can before you commit.
 
Thanks for that Steve I have a very good relationship with the local camera store so I will have the opportunity to test before hand. Do you know if an E version is any better if they actually offer an E version yet. I own the Nikkor 200-400 and the 300PF I am preparing to equip myself with some lighter glass from around 100mm to the 400 or 600mm range for easier travel weights. I considered the Sigma 100 -400 with a sigma TC 1.4 which may still be an option, I just thought Nikon would have been a better glass but I don't know with any certainty
 
Thanks for that Steve I have a very good relationship with the local camera store so I will have the opportunity to test before hand. Do you know if an E version is any better if they actually offer an E version yet. I own the Nikkor 200-400 and the 300PF I am preparing to equip myself with some lighter glass from around 100mm to the 400 or 600mm range for easier travel weights. I considered the Sigma 100 -400 with a sigma TC 1.4 which may still be an option, I just thought Nikon would have been a better glass but I don't know with any certainty
They do not and will not offer an E version of the 80-400 F mount, sadly. That is what I would have really wanted. However I just bought a new copy of the G lens about three weeks ago and am pleased with it. However, I have not yet tried it with my 1.4x iii teleconverter (which I have been using with my 70-200 f2.8 ).

Right now someone has an 80-400 G VR for sale in the buy/sell section of this forum for half the price of a new one.
 
Thank you for that information I will check out the buy/sell section. I missed the forum discussion over the 80 -400mm lens was the majority of issues regarding quality when using this lens with the TC. Before I move in any direction I am going to do some more research I have time to do my homework. Thanks guys for the help.
Ray
 
Nikon released several versions of the 80-200 f2.8D, which differ in the zoom design, and the first models use screwdriver AF. I think the AFS model only arrived in 1998

They are all built like unimogs - very tough with highly respected optical performance

The TC14 vII has the shaft transfer for s'driver AF - so it should work. Its optics are more than decent in the right pairing eg 300 f2.8G but I have not tried any of the older 80-200 zooms

The older vII of the TC2 is a poor optic, sadly; but it can function as a paperweight. So the most recent TC2 III has much better quality, but there have been reports of copy variation; but it does not support S'driver AF. (The optical quality might also reflect the telephoto pairing, as there are only a few that give acceptable IQ eg 300 f2.8G and 400 f2.8E FL
 
According to BH Photo chat technical expert the Kenko will only work with that model of Nikon D series in manual only. Not knowing for sure I don't what to put out the money on one.

If your 80-200 is a screw drive AF it will only AF with bodies that have a focus motor in the body. I had an AF-S 80-200 f2.8 ED that worked very well with both a TC1.4 ii and a 1.7 TCii, but they don't have the screw coupling. The mk iii TCs work best from an optical/quality POV with newer lenses.

I've now got an AF-S 70-200 f2.8 FL that is sharper and faster focusing than the 80-200 but not tried it with my TCs yet. One nit is that the focus and zoom rings are reversed on the 70-200 with the zoom being further away from the body and I'm so used to holding the lens with my hand on the zoom ring for almost 20 years.........
 
Thank you for everything, you have all offered some valued insights. Gmart I do believe the TC-201 is the go to option, that article was very helpful. Oddly my old AF-Nikkor 80 - 200 2.8 D ED lens has the internal focusing not the push pull version, and yet it is only an AF not an AF-S, and it only has 4 electronic pins on the f mount, not sure if that matters.
It does appear that the TC-201 is a manual focus TC, (not the best option for me). I read the following regarding theTC-14A /B --- For an instance, the TC-14A is designed for use with all Nikkor lenses up to 300 mm focal length, with Reflex-Nikkor lenses, and virtually all Zoom Nikkor lenses of up to 100 mm focal length can also be used. While on the other hand, the TC-14B was specifically designed for use with Nikkor telephoto lenses over 135 mm focal length and many Zoom Nikkor lenses over 200 mm focal length.

This leaves me with one question when it says up to all Nikkor lenses up to 300mm do you think that includes zoom lens example the 80 - 200, or only the zoom lens that go to 100mm ? This is like trying to learn a new language, it's all clear as mud which is why I look to those with experience. It may just be simpler to up-grade to a current version etc the 70 -200!
 
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Thank you for everything, you have all offered some valued insights. Gmart I do believe the TC-201 is the go to option, that article was very helpful. Oddly my old AF-Nikkor 80 - 200 2.8 D ED lens has the internal focusing not the push pull version, and yet it is only an AF not an AF-S, and it only has 4 electronic pins on the f mount, not sure if that matters.
It does appear that the TC-201 is a manual focus TC, (not the best option for me). I read the following regarding theTC-14A /B --- For an instance, the TC-14A is designed for use with all Nikkor lenses up to 300 mm focal length, with Reflex-Nikkor lenses, and virtually all Zoom Nikkor lenses of up to 100 mm focal length can also be used. While on the other hand, the TC-14B was specifically designed for use with Nikkor telephoto lenses over 135 mm focal length and many Zoom Nikkor lenses over 200 mm focal length.

This leaves me with one question when it says up to all Nikkor lenses up to 300mm do you think that includes zoom lens example the 80 - 200, or only the zoom lens that go to 100mm ? This is like trying to learn a new language, it's all clear as mud which is why I look to those with experience. It may just be simpler to up-grade to a current version etc the 70
Sorry, I can't help you with that last question. Maybe Nikon support can.
 
The TC14 vII has the shaft transfer for s'driver AF - so it should work. Its optics are more than decent in the right pairing eg 300 f2.8G but I have not tried any of the older 80-200 zooms
The TC14e and II and III models do not AF with screwdrive AF lenses. In fact none of Nikons TCs do. They just feature a notch to allow the camera body screwdrive thingy to fit when the TC is mounted, but don't feature the full screwdrive shaft transfer. The Kenko TCs have the full screwdriver shaft transfer. I used a Kenko TC with a screwdrive AF 300 F/4 and the AF worked great, though it was painfully slow.
 
As it turns out I'm not going to go that route as it seems that none of them will give me Auto focus only works on Manual focus. So I will look into getting an 80- 400mm G version which will work with my existing TC's. Thank you for your help
Ray
You will love the 80-400 G AF-S model. It doesn't get a lot of love, but I used mine on the D850 as backup to my D5 and 600mm on several trips to Africa. It performed extremely well, even with BIF's! I have a gallery full of nice images from it.
 
It's likely a wise move to forego the 80-200 D and TC option. I owned an 80-200 D, and tried two others, and never was satisfied with the optical performance on either a D700 or D7100. Adding a TC to a soft lens exacerbated the optical issues that were initially evident, as well as exposing some that were not.
 
I used the Kenko 1.4X TC on the 80-200. That TC has a 2.5:1 gear reduction on the AF screw, so it does slow the AF significantly, but it worked without issue. Used that 1.4X for quite a while and wasn't disappointed with it.
 
Thanks Karl I'm keeping my 80 -200 it is a tank and has a purpose in my bag for sure so I may consider the Kenko 1.4xTC, once I see how the lens I buy fills the zoom range up to the 400mm as a walk around lens to compliment my big glass. I shoot with the 300mm PF f/4 and a 1.4xTC now but in some situations I miss having the lower mm range and the 80 -200 just falls short. I'm more concerned with the 300 -500 area of coverage which is why I am considering the Nikkor 80 -400 or the Sigma 100 -400 with the 1.4xTC at this time. Mostly having those shorter smaller zoom options are for trips and walking trails. When the big glass comes out I would rather be stationary by a pond, in a blind, or settled with camo gear on. I'm finding carrying the heavy gear around isn't impossible yet but not as easy anymore. I appreciate your input Karl thank you for that.
Ray
 
I briefly owned a 300PF which I bought used on Ebay. However when I used it with the 1.4x iii teleconverter the results were very disappointing. I often use the 1.4x iii with my 70-200 f2.8E and it works quite well, so I know it's not the converter. I sold the 300PF after a brief time because my 70-200 with converter is just shy of 300mm and is also f4, but it was sharper than the PF.

As I mentioned earlier, I recently bought the 80-400 VR which I love, but I have not tested it with the 1.4x iii yet. I have the next two days off and will try it out and post a with and without sample here.
 
That would be great I hope you would take the time to let me know your results, it would be truly helpful to me thanks. I've had good luck with the 300PF and the 1.4x TC to where it is a go to lenses for me. But mostly it fills a void between my smaller lenses and the heavy weight 500mm. Often I take most of my gear with me on a shoot pulled in a wagon, unless I have a specific location or shoot in mind etc shooting from my kayak. Where I was falling short was from 200mm up to the 400mm range. I found multiple opportunities where that flexibility would have come in really handy. Nothing is perfect but a good work arounds solution would be nice. The real motivation for sourcing a solution comes from my need to lighten up my bag for the future safari's that I'm planning to go on over the next few years. At the moment I am very well equipped to move my heavy gear around by using multiple ways of handling it, but it's time to rethink how I work, and everyone on this forum has offered some very good insights. I look forward to hearing how the 80 -400 VR performs for you!!
 
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