800mm Z lens orders

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So, I was able to order a Z9 from Mike's in Sept or Oct of 2021 I think, before it was officially announced. However, there were a lot of sightings, and the model code (Z9) was already known. I was still 7th on the list until someone dropped out so then I was 6th. Got mine in the batch that came through in early January 2022 and after that the flow slowed down.

A few weeks ago I asked them if I could put a deposit and preorder a Z8, even if we don't know what it will be called or what the actual specifications are. But, we'll know it when we see it. 😊 They agreed, so it's kind of a gentlemen's agreement which should put me close to the head of the line.

I've also ordered the 800mm earlier, but I can wait.

Mike's has been good to me, too.
 
I wonder if Mike's got one for the whole chain or just the California division? The small local store I order from (which is much smaller the Mike's chain) said I was number one but still don't have mine. So either they gave it to someone else or they never got any (not counting NPS ones). They also were late in getting me the 100-400mm and 400mm f/4.5 (both I got from B&H before them, even though they claimed I was first on their list). Looks like I should switch stores!
Mike’s California has told me multiple times that there numbers are distinct from Colorado, so if they say they’ve received 1 cameta they are only talking about their California stores.
 
Mike’s California has told me multiple times that there numbers are distinct from Colorado, so if they say they’ve received 1 cameta they are only talking about their California stores.
Thanks useful to know. Don't know how the orders in Colorado compare with California, I assume many more in California? But would expect that my chances of getting a rare item from Mike's is still quite a long shot, they must get ton's of orders.
 
I heard some details on production of the Z 400mm f/2.8 and why there is such a large backlog. Nikon looked at historical data for 400mm f/2.8 lenses, looked at all the new Z9 sales and increased their estimates of demand accordingly. But the demand was for 10 times their forecast. Apparently a large number of Z9 professional buyers are making a complete shift to Z lenses, and with the good economy and good corporate budgets, they are replacing F-mount lenses even if the new lens costs nearly $15,000.
 
I'm NPS and ordered my 800mm in May and still do not have one. But like everyone else, I am patiently waiting. I was not NPS when I ordered my Z9 and 100-400mm on release dates and received my lens in Jan and the camera in Mar. Despite the wait, I'm very pleased with the gear. The 800mm will make a great addition, whenever it gets delivered. Patience is a virtue all. Even if it is making me antsy.
 
Apparently a large number of Z9 professional buyers are making a complete shift to Z lenses, and with the good economy and good corporate budgets, they are replacing F-mount lenses even if the new lens costs nearly $15,000.
Guilty as charged.
I made the full shift to ML after I got the opportunity to shoot the Z9 w/400TC for a morning back in March in the Serengeti. I absolutely loved this relative light weight combo and upon my return early April and after nearly 40 yrs shooting F mount sold 16 of my 18 lenses (kept the 500PF & 180-400) and 3 of my 4 DSLR's (kept the D500) and placed orders for two Z9's and the f/2.8 trilogy lenses and the Z400TC, I have received ALL except the 400..........that agonising wait continues.
 
My local contacts here in S Africa say there is also unprecedented demand for 800 PF and 400 f2.8S TC. Very few Z 400's have been received. I am reliably informed only one 800 PF has reached this country! There is also a long waiting list going back to the day it was announced.

The 800 PF is definitely a priority for owners to report serial # to Roland at Photosynthesis

Ironically, there is no shortage of the 100-400 S, which is selling steadily, and it's the same situation for both Z Teleconverters. Local store has all 3 items in stock.
 
One thing that's "interesting" is that the 400mm f4.5, announced quite a bit later, is now reasonably available. The shortage of 800mm PF lenses must have something to do with obtaining parts specific to that lens, perhaps related to the PF technology.
 
One thing that's "interesting" is that the 400mm f4.5, announced quite a bit later, is now reasonably available. The shortage of 800mm PF lenses must have something to do with obtaining parts specific to that lens, perhaps related to the PF technology.
I would guess that the number of people who want the 400mm f/4.5 is much, much less than the 800mm lens, since there is already the 100-400mm with more flexibility and the 400mm f/2.8 TC plus even the 500mm PF which is slightly sharper than the 400mm f/4.5 plus 1.4TC. Also, one sees few photos or posts on this lens, compared to say the 800mm PF which is truly unique.
 
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Any guesses as to when Nikon will get caught-up with all the Z 800mm f6.3S PF orders? I have heard that PF lenses take longer to manufacture, so given the big demand for this lens I'm wondering if wait times could be years and not months.
 
Hey everyone,
I know there are several people on here that have received their 800mm lenses, but just wanted to see if anyone has received one recently? I ordered mine from my local dealer (Mikes Camera in Denver) back when they were available to order, but its been radio silence since. They can just tell me I'm high on the list, but they just aren't getting any in.
I normally dont mind the waiting, but I leave for Africa in 6 days, so I'm pretty bummed that I won't have it to take with me as this trip was a big reason I decided to purchase it
I ordered mine from B&H as soon as it was announced and I haven’t heard anything since other than it’s on backorder. I have had the TC 1.4x on order for a long time too. That is also on order with B&H. It took 6 months to get the Z9 but I ordered that through my local camera store (Allen’s Camera in Levittown, PA).
 
I feel Nikon's delivery performance is dismal, i don't care about other brands or companies, but waiting 4 and 5 months is unfair for anything.

If your an NPS member with priority that's fine, party hard, and i can see why one would give NPS priority as is often its a full margin direct sale so the dealer is often cut out, when done the dealers get supply, hey it makes sense financially..........i could be completely wrong to.

Bottom line 400 lenses a month is 100 per week is 20 a day made on a 5 day a week basis.........

When you make heaps of money as Nikon has recently and you build a new mega head office for USD $72million ? approximately ? and your charging prices like a wounded bull, then drip feed supply because you can is well disappointing..........and raises the question do they care.....or is their genuine reasons, i think unlikely.....

Could it be If they did care, things would be different, forget the Covid, Chip, Supply issues its a bit more of BS than reality that everyone is flogging to death like for ever .................


Supply ISSUES.......... effected by Chip shortages, Covid generally are a real issue for a lot of companies at times..........true or false..........? if it is you do something...i would think.

Ok, assuming the 800 mm is hand made, Johnny who is off on Covid, just leaves Jimmy, Max and Sue who all have had Covid now making still 20 lenses per day, with the billions turned over and billions in profits You would do something about it wouldn't you, i mean a billion $ organistaion dribbeling out 400-500 lenses a month, sorry sell it somehwere else, I mean Silicon Valley and Intel are doing things properly to deal with manufatcuring and supply issues LOL.


The CEO of Intel told (ordered) congress to not break for August and pass the bill called Corporate Relief fund for USD $72 Billion (of tax payers money) so manufacturing could come back to America, if not, then in their case, Intel would make products elsewhere in Asia or Europe........................ so their are plenty alternatives to make or get product.
Intel made $20 Billion last year and doesn't pay taxes in the USA.

The Above is from Bernie Sanders...........speech in congress........

Manufacturers used to build forward stock to anticipated (guessed) sales projections, then dump stock if estimates where wrong, now its more like actual forward orders and build to orders only, be it cars planes cameras washing machines.
There are a lot of reasons benefits also for placing orders 4, 8, 12 months ahead, but not for the customer.

Is it a culture, evolution, a new way of manufacturing using full robotics ? and supplying that is different and are we expected to just get used to it.

Is it ? By the time product fully pipelines and sits on the shelf in a shop, the interest has fallen or the product is being updated or replaced, a bit like smart phones..

Is it Retailers going forward would not carry expensive inventory, not on the margins they make so there is an issue here ...........change is needed.

Is it Forward orders only, long lead times, financial floor plans like the car industry, or will it be manufacturers retail directly on line.

When consumers feel their is shortage they question price less often focusing more on got to get one.........hence they will pay more LOL

Only an opinion
 
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Ordered thru my local Nikon dealer on April 14th delivered April 28th. Used a Camera Dealer for the purchase with NPS delivery. Just got very lucky as I was thinking 6 months out but I will say for those waiting it’s worth it.
 
I heard some details on production of the Z 400mm f/2.8 and why there is such a large backlog. Nikon looked at historical data for 400mm f/2.8 lenses, looked at all the new Z9 sales and increased their estimates of demand accordingly. But the demand was for 10 times their forecast. Apparently a large number of Z9 professional buyers are making a complete shift to Z lenses, and with the good economy and good corporate budgets, they are replacing F-mount lenses even if the new lens costs nearly $15,000.\
Its not just professionals, I have sold all but one F (mount 600 F4 FL). Have replaced most of my lens with the z mount. I now have both the 400 f4.5, and 400 f2.8 on order. When the new 600 comes out I'll order it then sell the 600 F mount after I receive the z lens. Provided I'm not in a nursing home by then..
 
Its not just professionals, I have sold all but one F (mount 600 F4 FL). Have replaced most of my lens with the z mount. I now have both the 400 f4.5, and 400 f2.8 on order. When the new 600 comes out I'll order it then sell the 600 F mount after I receive the z lens. Provided I'm not in a nursing home by then..
I was looking at the 400 F4.5, whats you take on that, i also have dirt cheap on offer a 400 F2.8 G lens FX in Mint condition I know its heavy but thats not an issue for what i do..
 
Guilty as charged.
I made the full shift to ML after I got the opportunity to shoot the Z9 w/400TC for a morning back in March in the Serengeti. I absolutely loved this relative light weight combo and upon my return early April and after nearly 40 yrs shooting F mount sold 16 of my 18 lenses (kept the 500PF & 180-400) and 3 of my 4 DSLR's (kept the D500) and placed orders for two Z9's and the f/2.8 trilogy lenses and the Z400TC, I have received ALL except the 400..........that agonising wait continues.
Hey flood the market and bring on lots of good high end fast glass dirt cheap
 
400-500 lenses a month is possibly not enough to justify a full robotic high speed production line understandably, hence they are possibly all made one at a time by hand like most of the other exotics, but 20 a day for a billion $ show that is sad. They need a Kick up the back side to lift their game.
Short supply high demand = $$$$$ come on Nikon supporters have waited and suffered enough.

Only an opinion
 
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