A1 or Z9

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O

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Unless I misunderstood, Steve Perry came to much different conclusions regarding the AF comparison between D6 and A1.
Granted he is shooting wildlife but had over 60,000 frames when he recorded his A1 review
I expect the Z9 is going to be extremely good just like the A1.
A1 and Zee9 are probably going to be very comparable with subtle differences, mostly for bragging rights on these forums.
The reviews from the filed show the Z9 a little lagging in focus tracking in sports action.......i found this with Jarrod Polan while a geek his examples where real...
DP review loved the Z9 but as i recall the Z9 is a vast improvement with its AF tracking that will only get better ???? i need to look at it again.........
 

O

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they said the focus refocuses for each shot in the 120fps and one video I saw mentioned the new charger is only compatible with the new batteries and I think they mentioned the old charger won’t charge the new batteries. The battery charger compatibility seems a little confusing.
Thankyou
 

O

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What I have seen is that all EN-EL18 batteries work in the z9 BUT
only the types b and c can be charged in camera and in the new charger. Types a only charge in the old charger.
Thank you.......................... so that means two chargers
 

O

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Unless I misunderstood, Steve Perry came to much different conclusions regarding the AF comparison between D6 and A1.
Granted he is shooting wildlife but had over 60,000 frames when he recorded his A1 review
I expect the Z9 is going to be extremely good just like the A1.
A1 and Zee9 are probably going to be very comparable with subtle differences, mostly for bragging rights on these forums.

That said i find serious sports action in challenging light more demanding that wild life shooting..........maybe that's what Hogan is eluding to........?? interesting, i mean Hogan is to be respected 100%, his daily kit is the Z6II Z7II and the Z50 walk around hack ............he has the A1 and D6 as well.
 

abc123brian

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Do the older batteries work on the Z9 i thought they did......so that means one needs 2 different charges
What I have seen is that all EN-EL18 batteries work in the z9 BUT
only the types b and c can be charged in camera and in the new charger. Types a only charge in the old charger.
I looked into it on Nikon’s website and it looks like FB101 is accurate. I’m glad to see the charger is compatible with more of the batteries than I thought.

From the battery charger page
The MH-33 battery charger cannot be used to charge EN-EL18 or EN-EL18a batteries.

From Z9 tech specs page
EN-EL18d rechargeable Li-ion battery
EN-EL18c, EN-EL18b, EN-EL18a,and EN-EL18 batteries can also be used. Note, however, that fewer pictures can be taken on a single charge than with the EN-EL18d.

 

O

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I looked into it on Nikon’s website and it looks like FB101 is accurate. I’m glad to see the charger is compatible with more of the batteries than I thought.

From the battery charger page
The MH-33 battery charger cannot be used to charge EN-EL18 or EN-EL18a batteries.

From Z9 tech specs page
EN-EL18d rechargeable Li-ion battery
EN-EL18c, EN-EL18b, EN-EL18a,and EN-EL18 batteries can also be used. Note, however, that fewer pictures can be taken on a single charge than with the EN-EL18d.


Thankyou
 

O

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Ken Rockwell has a pretty detailed break down of the specs, answered some questions, informative, i guess most of it came from the Camera manual..........

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/z/z9.htm#bad


The question is now traveling to New Zealand for 3 weeks to holiday in a motor home and casually do some nice street, landscape, and travel photography, do you take a Z9 or D850 on a 28-300 LOL ............or just the I phone 13 pro plus.............as you don't want to lug a bag or gear..........
 

thelordofthelight

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Interesting comparison and it will be nice to see the Z9 in the mix in few weeks. Bottom line is the differences between the brands are so little its all about nitpicking some finer aspects. The 50MP of A1 certainly looks amazing whereas Canon R3 seems to have a slight edge on AF and EVF.

 

FB101

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The question is now traveling to New Zealand for 3 weeks to holiday in a motor home and casually do some nice street, landscape, and travel photography, do you take a Z9 or D850 on a 28-300 LOL ............or just the I phone 13 pro plus.............as you don't want to lug a bag or gear..........
Street, landscape and travel? I’d go Z7ii, or D850 without grip (unless you need to hammer nails or knock out a bear, then the z9) . And I would throw in a 35mm prime (or nifty fifty, or a 28mm prime) not much weight and great optics to complement the zoom (I love a 28 or 35 prime for street, I rarely use a zoom).
My best street shots were all with a 28mm when I forced myself to get inside the action to fill the frame. Get down low and use the curvature to emphasize the subject.
 

O

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Street, landscape and travel? I’d go Z7ii, or D850 without grip (unless you need to hammer nails or knock out a bear, then the z9) . And I would throw in a 35mm prime (or nifty fifty, or a 28mm prime) not much weight and great optics to complement the zoom (I love a 28 or 35 prime for street, I rarely use a zoom).
My best street shots were all with a 28mm when I forced myself to get inside the action to fill the frame. Get down low and use the curvature to emphasize the subject.
Thankyou
 

O

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Interesting comparison and it will be nice to see the Z9 in the mix in few weeks. Bottom line is the differences between the brands are so little its all about nitpicking some finer aspects. The 50MP of A1 certainly looks amazing whereas Canon R3 seems to have a slight edge on AF and EVF.

I have said all along for a long while now, if i left Nikon it would be for Canon and i feel the R1 will be a a bomb shell.
Focus tracking i see Canon as 9, Sony as 8, Nikon 6 1/2 to 7 on the Z9...............
 

dtibbals

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That's great to hear and i can under stand why from what i hear from friends as well, you didn't want to wait for the A2 ?
No. I sold all of my Nikon gear and moved to Sony this year. I only had one body which isn't enough so I needed a second body now. All the other options seemed like a compromise compared to the a1 so I figured why spend $3-4K on a body I won't like shooting as much. If the a1MKII offers something significant than I would likely add it to my kit as body 3.
 

dtibbals

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Ken Rockwell has a pretty detailed break down of the specs, answered some questions, informative, i guess most of it came from the Camera manual..........

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/z/z9.htm#bad


The question is now traveling to New Zealand for 3 weeks to holiday in a motor home and casually do some nice street, landscape, and travel photography, do you take a Z9 or D850 on a 28-300 LOL ............or just the I phone 13 pro plus.............as you don't want to lug a bag or gear..........
Better solution is an olympus and one of their fantastic zooms.
 

O

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Better solution is an olympus and one of their fantastic zooms.

Hogan absolutely loves the Z50 for day to day travel and stuff, i have only heard good things about it form people who have it, thay say its quite amazing..
 

O

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I have said all along for a long while now, if i left Nikon it would be for Canon and i feel the R1 will be a a bomb shell.
Focus tracking i see Canon as 9, Sony as 8, Nikon 6 1/2 to 7 on the Z9...............

I think the final flagship replacement for the 1DXmk 4 is not the R3, i feel the R1 will leap frog the Z9, A1, R3.........
 

dtibbals

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I think the final flagship replacement for the 1DXmk 4 is not the R3, i feel the R1 will leap frog the Z9, A1, R3.........
I think when claims like that are made they are short sighted. That’s assuming Sony does no firmware updates to the current a1 and also assumes since Sony a1 will be 2 years old by the time Canon ships their first R1 that Sony won’t have a a1MKII either out or on the way. There is an advantage to be the first and the one to set the bar. I sure wouldn’t bet against Sony one upping the new bodies by Canon and Nikon.
 
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