Binoculars recommendation for senior

[eft]

My mum is 86 and accompanying a birder friend on a cruise along the UK coast https://www.noble-caledonia.co.uk/tour/2858/bird-islands/itinerary/

She has limited mobility, which means that when they go ashore and it's a scramble, she will have to stay onboard. So, I was thinking of getting her some binoculars that she could use from the ship, the zodiac excursions and whenever she can go ashore. Mostly, I want to help her make the most of this experience. She has lots of birds in her garden so the binos will be well used after the cruise.

Reading a couple of threads here and on the web, it seems that she would benefit from image-stabilized binos. The next most important factor is probably weight. I'm assuming that weight will limit the specs to 8x or 10x magnification and 20mm or 30mm objective lens diameter. Being around salt water, weather proofing would be good. I'm prepared to pay whatever it takes so assume cost is not a limiting factor.

I value the opinions of the members of these forums and would appreciate any recommendations on brand, specs, accessories etc.

Thanks!

 

[Steve W]

You could consider Swarovski EL 10x32 SV binoculars. 20 oz (580 grams), ED and fluorite glass, coated, argon filled and importantly if you wear specs, 20 mm eye relief. Not cheap but out perform many larger bino’s.

 

[PhD69]

My wife has been using Canon stabilised binoculars for over 20 years.

And it’s a real joy. Indeed, while optical quality may be slightly lower than the high-end equipment of other brands, the stabilisation provides unparalleled observation quality.
The perception of details is impressive.
Canon offers a rather extensive range. A light version, but stabilized, should be a good solution for your mom who is a certain age

 

[Abinoone]

My mum is 86 and accompanying a birder friend on a cruise along the UK coast https://www.noble-caledonia.co.uk/tour/2858/bird-islands/itinerary/

She has limited mobility, which means that when they go ashore and it's a scramble, she will have to stay onboard. So, I was thinking of getting her some binoculars that she could use from the ship, the zodiac excursions and whenever she can go ashore. Mostly, I want to help her make the most of this experience. She has lots of birds in her garden so the binos will be well used after the cruise.

Reading a couple of threads here and on the web, it seems that she would benefit from image-stabilized binos. The next most important factor is probably weight. I'm assuming that weight will limit the specs to 8x or 10x magnification and 20mm or 30mm objective lens diameter. Being around salt water, weather proofing would be good. I'm prepared to pay whatever it takes so assume cost is not a limiting factor.

I value the opinions of the members of these forums and would appreciate any recommendations on brand, specs, accessories etc.

Thanks!

For a simple, affordable solution, I’d suggest Nikon Trailblazer bins (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...10x25_Trailblazer_ATB_Binocular.html/overview). They’re very lightweight, weather sealed, and are reasonably good quality. I bought them for travel when I don’t want to lug around my high-end Vortex bins, and have been very pleased with them. And, if for any reason she were to lose them, you’d not be out of a lot of money.

 

[ingweDave]

You could consider Swarovski EL 10x32 SV binoculars. 20 oz (580 grams), ED and fluorite glass, coated, argon filled and importantly if you wear specs, 20 mm eye relief. Not cheap but out perform many larger bino’s.

I agree with this choice or Leica similar spec. Expensive but a lifetime purchase. I have tried many larger, high quality bins, over my 50 years birding. However the modern 10x32 suit me perfectly, small, light and great optically. (8x32 & 10x32 are virtually the same size & weight.)

 

[NorthernFocus]

From what you describe sounds like image stabilized binos would be the way to go. Both for elderly/shaky hands and working form a boat anything over 6x without stabilization will likely not work for her. And if she will be staying in the boat more reach will probably be beneficial. The downside of stabilized models is weight and they're not as bright. It's been a few years but when I researched stabilized models for use on my boat Fujinon had five degrees of stabilization vs one degree for Canon. I bought the Fujinon 14x40 which work well but are very heavy. The 12x32 are much smaller with the trade off of the smaller objective lens. If any shops near you sell the stabilized models I'd highly recommend handling them. BTW I don't even know if Nikon still sells them but the Nikon stabilized binos are just rebranded Fujinon.

 

[Garfield]

My vote is for Canon IS, but not too big because they get large and heavy -- suggest 10x30 IS II or 12x36 IS III.

 

[Patrick M]

Certainly looks like a good trip Some stops, like Tresco may have to use local boats - and these might be easier for her to use. Certainly zodiacs will be a no go.
As she's in a wheelchair, perhaps you can get a wheel chair mount?

I have a Nikon Monarch binocular that has an optional tripod mount that works well - TRA-2

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[GrandNagus50]

This question almost screams for this answer: "Canon IS binoculars, one of the smaller sizes."

 

[Patrick M]

This question almost screams for this answer: "Canon IS binoculars, one of the smaller sizes."

I doubt one needs IS binoculars. I've been on many, many cruises and when the ships are moored - quayside or at anchor there's never enough swell to make it necessary - and if there were, one wouldn't be out on deck.

 

[GrandNagus50]

I doubt one needs IS binoculars. I've been on many, many cruises and when the ships are moored - quayside or at anchor there's never enough swell to make it necessary - and if there were, one wouldn't be out on deck.

The question pertains to an 86-year-old person. Lots of people (including sometimes me) use IS binoculars on land where there is no "swell" at all. It's hand/arm movement that causes the problem of image unsteadiness when holding binoculars, not ground/water movement.

 

[Patrick M]

The question pertains to an 86-year-old person. Lots of people (including sometimes me) use IS binoculars on land where there is no "swell" at all. It's hand/arm movement that causes the problem of image unsteadiness when holding binoculars, not ground/water movement.

I'd forgotten her age. Apologies

 

[eft]

Some stops, like Tresco may have to use local boats - and these might be easier for her to use. Certainly zodiacs will be a no go.
As she's in a wheelchair, perhaps you can get a wheel chair mount?

Actually, she can get around on crutches or a rollater and is pretty determined so plans to get in any zodiac provided the crew are helpful. Walking up a hill and/or over uneven surfaces are the biggest challenge. Tresco site talks about scooters for rent and she is an avid gardener so really hoping she gets ashore there.

 

[eft]

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Really helps me in my decision!

 

[eft]

I doubt one needs IS binoculars. I've been on many, many cruises and when the ships are moored - quayside or at anchor there's never enough swell to make it necessary - and if there were, one wouldn't be out on deck.

The ship is fairly small and I'm sure they will be able to see a lot from the outside decks. Plus the zodiacs are going to be shaking and bouncing.

 

[Replytoken]

Actually, she can get around on crutches or a rollater and is pretty determined so plans to get in any zodiac provided the crew are helpful. Walking up a hill and/or over uneven surfaces are the biggest challenge. Tresco site talks about scooters for rent and she is an avid gardener so really hoping she gets ashore there.

Getting in a zodiac may not be the issue. Sitting and holding may be more of an issue if there is any distance travelled. The zodiac I travelled in in Hawaii had "saddle" seats. I do not know hw many different seating configurations they offer, but this might be a challenge. And if they do bring it up to speed, then it can be like riding a bucking bronco, especially if you are in the front of the boat. Hopefully this will not be the case for you, but it is good to be aware in advance of possible issues. Otherwise it sounds like a great trip. Hope she enjoys.

--Ken

 

[luckmurph]

After having a pair of Leica trinoivids for nearly 30years ive just purchased a pair of Swarovski 8 x 32 NL pure's and have to say they're fantastic very lightweight and small enough to fit in a coat pocket, thoroughly recommended ( and in the burnt orange colour they look great too!!)

NL Pure

NL Pure

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[luckmurph]

Skomer is an amazing island i go there every year to photograph the puffins, here's a few from my last trip, i'm sure your mum will love it!

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[Calson]

For the trip and later at home a great pair of binos are the Pentax 6.5 x 21 U-series Papilio II binoculars that sell for $129. Very light at only 10 ounces and very easy to use without shaking with their 6.5x magnification.

What makes them exceptional for home use is there close focusing distance of only 18 inches. They can function like a close-up viewer for insects and flowers. Contrast that with any other bino's close focus distance of 8 feet or more.

I have three Swarvo binos and 2 pairs of Nikon Monarch 7 binos and full size ones from Pentax and Vortex, and a pair of the Papillio as well. The Papillio fill a niche with their macro viewing capabilities.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1113227-REG/pentax_62001_6_5x21_papilio_ii_binocular.html/specs

 

[jeffnles1]

My mum is 86 and accompanying a birder friend on a cruise along the UK coast https://www.noble-caledonia.co.uk/tour/2858/bird-islands/itinerary/

She has limited mobility, which means that when they go ashore and it's a scramble, she will have to stay onboard. So, I was thinking of getting her some binoculars that she could use from the ship, the zodiac excursions and whenever she can go ashore. Mostly, I want to help her make the most of this experience. She has lots of birds in her garden so the binos will be well used after the cruise.

Reading a couple of threads here and on the web, it seems that she would benefit from image-stabilized binos. The next most important factor is probably weight. I'm assuming that weight will limit the specs to 8x or 10x magnification and 20mm or 30mm objective lens diameter. Being around salt water, weather proofing would be good. I'm prepared to pay whatever it takes so assume cost is not a limiting factor.

I value the opinions of the members of these forums and would appreciate any recommendations on brand, specs, accessories etc.

Thanks!

Lots of options. I have these. They are clear, with a bright enough image, they are not heavy and they have long enough eye relief I can use them with my glasses on. Also they don't break the bank. Personally, I think Vortex optics, especially the diamondback line is among the best bang for the buck in optics these days.

Diamondback HD 8x28

Diamondback HD 8x28

vortexoptics.com

Lots of places, including Amazon have them. Pretty much any sporting goods store will also carry Vortex (Bass Pro, Cabelas, Sportsman's Warehouse, Academy Sports and a whole lot of others).

I also have other binoculars, a 10 power inexpensive Cabela's brand I keep in my car. If someone breaks in and steals them I won't cry so I leave them there. I also have a pair of Leupold 10X50 that are beautiful but they are HEAVY to carry around all day.

My rifle scope and my spotting scope are both Vortex Diamondback. Guess you could say I'm a fan (and no, I do not have any kind of business relationship with Vortex, just a guy who has bought their products and been happy.)

these do not have image stabilization. However, with 8 power it's really not needed.

Hope this helps.
Jeff

 

[jer]

@eft I know nothing helpful about binoculars. I just want to nominate you for "Son of the Year" awards. Your post is so well-worded, thoughtful and thorough! I wish my mother's son was like you.

 

[fcotterill]

These websites compare many different brands and designs. I use Monarch 5 12 x 42 (and recently added the new Rangefinder model). Waterproof and excellent optics with ED glass etc. But it's likely the Monarchs are too heavy.

I agree a lighter pair will probably be easier for your mum, and with image stabilization

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[Richard Stern]

All birders seem to have heir own favourite brands of binoculars. I have been a keen birder for at least 50 years, and have owned many different makes and pairs. I am now 75, which is still a bit younger than your Mom, and now use Zeiss Victory 8x32 in the woods or for close viewing, and Kowa Genesis 10x33 if I'm looking into the distance, e.g. over a lake, or beach. Both are about the same light weight, and like all modern binoculars, are waterproof, focus easily, just feel good ito use, and have excellent optics. I have tried or owned some in the past that didn't feel right in my hands, or the focus wheel was to fast, or too slow, or the depth of field was too narrow, or too wide. So if you or you Mom can actually visit a store and try out any of the high end brands, to see if they feel right in her hands or to her eyes, it would help.

Other issues - Vortex probably have the best warranty. The "big 3" - Zeiss, Swarovski and Leica- have different levels of excellence but their top of the line models are all equally outstanding (and expensive). I got the Zeiss 8x because of all the high end models they had the best combination of low weight, image quality and field of view. I got the Kowa 10x for more or less the same reasons, plus the reviews said they were 90% as good as the very high end makes for less $., and my Kowa spotting scope is outstanding.

There are plenty of binocular review websites you could browse, - just Google Birding binocular reviews - but one of the best is the gear review section of Birdforum.net (It's British, it's free, and there are plenty of detailed user experiences - go here - https://www.birdforum.net/forums/binoculars.112/ , not the section headed Reviews).

I have tried out the Canon 10x IS ones in the past. The IS was really good, but it only works for a short time till you have to replace the battery, and they were heavy.

Good luck!

 

[Marsha Jane]

My mum is 86 and accompanying a birder friend on a cruise along the UK coast https://www.noble-caledonia.co.uk/tour/2858/bird-islands/itinerary/

She has limited mobility, which means that when they go ashore and it's a scramble, she will have to stay onboard. So, I was thinking of getting her some binoculars that she could use from the ship, the zodiac excursions and whenever she can go ashore. Mostly, I want to help her make the most of this experience. She has lots of birds in her garden so the binos will be well used after the cruise.

Reading a couple of threads here and on the web, it seems that she would benefit from image-stabilized binos. The next most important factor is probably weight. I'm assuming that weight will limit the specs to 8x or 10x magnification and 20mm or 30mm objective lens diameter. Being around salt water, weather proofing would be good. I'm prepared to pay whatever it takes so assume cost is not a limiting factor.

I value the opinions of the members of these forums and would appreciate any recommendations on brand, specs, accessories etc.

Thanks!

One important consideration in choosing is the measurement between her eyes, which can be obtained from her optometrist. Only a few brands are good for people whose eyes are closely set. My Vortex Diamondback is good for that issue, but doesn’t have IS.

 

[TonyDownunder]

Although your mother maybe not walking around much you may still want to consider a harness instead of hanging them around her neck on the neck strap. Supporting the weight with your neck can be very wearing. Harnesses put any load onto both your shoulders. There are plenty out there from cheap to as much as you want to pay. If you opt for cheaper ones, just be careful that you secure the binoculars carefully. maybe a little super glue once the straps are adjusted.