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Butlerkid

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I'd have exactly the opposite point of view, respectfully of course. I like discussing photo topics and technical things. I enjoy some of the photos but don't click on every photo post and I haven't posted pictures here. Also me it is inappropriate to post a photo in someone else's discussion and especially in their gallery presentation unless it specifically addresses the question they are asking. Modifying someone else's work without asking them first is beyond inappropriate in my view.
I am also in favour of technical discussions since one gets to know the pros & cons .
I am sure even gear purchase decisions are made by many after reading the posts..I try to follow as many threads as posible to learn from others experiences & I have learnt a lot
I for one bought A1 after reading Steve's review of it( & also his not so favourable comments on a particular brands mirroless camera)
I also bought DxoPhotolab ( that too with a big discount) after reading the recommendation in the forum since i was struggling with the A1 raw files in the beginning.
Most important thing I have learnt here is that not to go for any brand blindly .
I did not suggest eliminating gear discussions, nor modifying images by others, nor posting one's images in someone else's threads.... ??? Not sure the point of brining those things up since they fall under the category of being respectful to others. If you are respectful of others, you don't do those kind of things.

I simply indicated a preference for a more balanced forum between tech talk versus image presentations. Anyone remember the country song lyrics "A little less talk and a lot more action" :D
 

Steve

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@Steve.Would it be possible to add a feature to drag & drop images from the PC to the site & also resize the image automatically
It would save some time specially if we are adding five images to the post.
One of the biggest problem every one will be facing ( with higher frame rate cameras) is to process images thx to the high frame rates ( I do remember you mentioning in one of your posts that you are also way behind in your post processing work).
I do follow your advice religiously and take more shots of the same subject 😁
Hope I am not missing some thing by asking for the feature request
As long as the image is size properly, you should be able to drag and drop - I do it all the time.
I am planning to do am update to the forum software and the newer version may include a resize function - that would make it handy. (I have a few things on the server that need updated first - it's never ending).
 

Venkatesh VT

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As long as the image is size properly, you should be able to drag and drop - I do it all the time.
I am planning to do am update to the forum software and the newer version may include a resize function - that would make it handy. (I have a few things on the server that need updated first - it's never ending).
Thx Steve.I will give it a try
 

bleirer

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I did not suggest eliminating gear discussions, nor modifying images by others, nor posting one's images in someone else's threads.... ??? Not sure the point of brining those things up since they fall under the category of being respectful to others. If you are respectful of others, you don't do those kind of things.

I simply indicated a preference for a more balanced forum between tech talk versus image presentations. Anyone remember the country song lyrics "A little less talk and a lot more action" :D
You make several good points. I was just expressing my appreciation for the technical discussions as you were expressing your appreciation of the photo sharing. I guess it's good there is a subforum for general photo discussion, and other subforums for presentation and critique. That way I can click the general photo forum more often and expect to find people who want to talk about tech things, and also occasionally click the presentation forum to look at pictures. You might do the opposite, more often click the presentation forums and less often the general photo discussion. It's all good.

The part about posting photos was not directed at you or anyone in particular, it's just something I noticed more here, that discussions are often filled with photos not by the original poster that are unrelated to the question being asked or by someone changing the OP's image without being asked to show how they think it could be better. If asked, it's very generous of folks to spend their time editing someone else's work.
 

Ado Wolf

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I for one will try to post more photos.. it's one of my new year's resolutions. Updating the forum to include an auto resize will definitely motivate me to post photos. In fact, I will post one right now (y)

Maybe we can start a thread, where each can post 3 top photos from 2021 (I know 3 will be tough to choose).
 

Thern

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Exactly why I stopped contributing to the forums (not that anybody should care lol)
Initially I left for the brutal attack by another member here, even asked Steve to remove my account, but he refused and asked me to rejoin.
I came back a month later made some posts but at the end of the day reading the forums I felt heavily annoyed so despite Steve’s efforts to restore my posts I decided to stop anyway. (I know it sounds and is ungratefull but I’m sure Steve understands)
So now and then I visit the forum, read the raves about systems dancing circles around other systems and have a good laugh.
Yup! Somehow I don’t get annoyed anymore by this fanboyism and as a result I regained a lot of fun shooting my subpar R5’s living in one of the most beautifull wildlife/bird habitats in the world nowadays.

So I wish everybody a sound, prosperous and happy 2022 with less blahblah and hyperbole and a lot of nice opportunities!
Have Fun! Stay safe! And let’s pray for that damned Covid desease to disappear!
(Despite being fully vaccinated I hardly survived a second infection)
 
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fcotterill

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Technical discussions are unavoidable, as blockages in resolving camera settings get frustrating and take one's concentration off the real matters when outdoors (especially with a new and unfamiliar camera). Like it or not, modern pro and prosumer cameras are complicated instruments, and the qualities of the many different lenses are bewildering (so many options including 3rd party, and we have Used options too) ...then add flashes, remotes, tripods and gimbalheads etc :oops:

I'm an unrepentant gear geek, locked into Nikon...the diagnosis being that acute nikonitis is incurable. I started out as a teenager with an inherited Leicaflex and then a Minolta SRT101, before my sister and I traded it all in for Nikon FM2... nearly 40 years ago.
About 2015 I was in the position - finally - to afford a decent DSLR system, and so began researching the options, trying out many different Nikon fit lenses (most traded Used) and iterating cameras until I could afford a D5 and D850.

Long story short, these www searches accumulated hundreds of web links and databased excerpts etc in a Word file close to 1000 pages on relevant F-mount glass mainly. Bookmarks to camera reviews works well enough via Chrome. And I also curate a new parallel file as the Z system grows to crosscheck reviews. So I'm in ty position to min these data and share links etc as needs arise...including requests here....

All this considered, Nikon is more than enough to deal with i steer trying to comment on a product I've no experience with. No more to say on the latter....as it's been dissected above, thoroughly.

The well trodden debate about Z Autofocus for wildlife provides no better example of why stating the context is essential, including: besides the camera and lens, one's subject interests, photographed subjects etc. There's solid evidence from experienced wildlife photographers that the Z6 and Z7 deliver no lack of keepers of the appropriate subjects when these oblige.... however, not tyat many of fast flying birds such as swifts and swallows.

The same applies to adapters, the FTZ in particular, where the Z9 evidence is pointing more directly at the Zed camera being the crucial factor (!) Anyways,

Images can be most useful in these threads, with due respect to context and priorities obviously..... a photo being worth more than 1000 words.

This post is long enough already, so just to endorse the shared values posted above wrt the uniqueness of this forum and due etiquette.
 
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Butlerkid

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........it's just something I noticed more here, that discussions are often filled with photos not by the original poster that are unrelated to the question being asked or by someone changing the OP's image without being asked to show how they think it could be better. If asked, it's very generous of folks to spend their time editing someone else's work.
That reflects bad manners and is not respectful to other members. I just checked the Terms and Rules because I remember a comment there about not posting images in someone else's thread unless asked to do so. But I couldn't find such guidance......

BTW - I like gear talk, too. I got one of the first Z9's and am soaking up what others are learning and sharing! BUT - the end goal for me is creating images.......not falling in love with the tools. LOL! We agree on most of this.
 

Hut2

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That reflects bad manners and is not respectful to other members. I just checked the Terms and Rules because I remember a comment there about not posting images in someone else's thread unless asked to do so. But I couldn't find such guidance......

BTW - I like gear talk, too. I got one of the first Z9's and am soaking up what others are learning and sharing! BUT - the end goal for me is creating images.......not falling in love with the tools. LOL! We agree on most of this.
. . . Also, please keep in mind the posts in this section are for the original thread poster to display their images. As such, please refrain from adding your own images to a thread in this section that's already started (unless invited to do so by the original poster). If you have photos to show, please start a new thread. . .

I generally don't mind people adding photos to my threads, since I am just a guy walking around taking photos, not a pro. But it's easy to see how that could get annoying.
 

agrumpybirdphotographer

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I think the individuals that are directly involved in this Sony vs Nikon thing should take a deep breath. Mirrorless or DSLR as well. It’s getting a little ridiculous as Steve pointed out. This forum is about helping and motivating photographers to take better pictures. Most of us choose a camera based on what fits our needs and not based solely on which is better. There are always compromises. Because which is better is a personal opinion based on your needs. So, while this back and forth can be entertaining at times it’s getting a little old. When I see a thread about the Z9 photos , that’s what I want to read about. If I see a thread about the Sony A1, that’s what I expect. Not some back and forth about which is better. Come on people, your better than that. Let’s talk about thing's that improve our skills or helps to solve a problem that one of us is having. It’s not necessary to defend your position that your camera is better than theirs. There are plenty of you-tube videos for that.
Spot on Ralph wholeheartedly agree.
 

Terry

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Not to give myself away, but what is UHH? Sounds like I need to know!
Ugly Hedgehog. There some good folks there. If fact that's where I found Steve although I do see him posting there much any more! It's a photo board but has a lot of subgroups. The most recent complaint was something someone thought was racist but I never saw the orginal post.

There's a large number of old guys (I one too) and they seem to have nothing better to do that nitpick. It seems to be devolving....
 

KimM

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Not to give myself away, but what is UHH? Sounds like I need to know!
Ugly Hedge Hog. How or why I got started there 7 years ago is mystery. I was so intimidated by the mean and scathing comments, I didnt comment for the first 5 years. Still I learned so much and like all things, there are some really good and knowledgeable people over there along with the other.

On this forum, I am grateful for a friendly place where I can make a mistake or miss speak and not be reamed. I even posted an image in somebody's thread thinking it helped illustrate a point in the last week (my first) and didn't know better. Nobody was mean.

Thanks to the OP for bringing this up. I love learning how others think and why they make the decisions they do. It has saved me from making some costly mistakes. Surely we can all find a way to express our opinions, bias and experience while being respectful.
 

PAUL50

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Ugly Hedgehog. There some good folks there. If fact that's where I found Steve although I do see him posting there much any more! It's a photo board but has a lot of subgroups. The most recent complaint was something someone thought was racist but I never saw the orginal post.

There's a large number of old guys (I one too) and they seem to have nothing better to do that nitpick. It seems to be devolving....
Thanks.
 

PAUL50

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Ugly Hedge Hog. How or why I got started there 7 years ago is mystery. I was so intimidated by the mean and scathing comments, I didnt comment for the first 5 years. Still I learned so much and like all things, there are some really good and knowledgeable people over there along with the other.

On this forum, I am grateful for a friendly place where I can make a mistake or miss speak and not be reamed. I even posted an image in somebody's thread thinking it helped illustrate a point in the last week (my first) and didn't know better. Nobody was mean.

Thanks to the OP for bringing this up. I love learning how others think and why they make the decisions they do. It has saved me from making some costly mistakes. Surely we can all find a way to express our opinions, bias and experience while being respectful.
Thanks
 

EricBowles

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@Steve.Would it be possible to add a feature to drag & drop images from the PC to the site & also resize the image automatically
It would save some time specially if we are adding five images to the post.
One of the biggest problem every one will be facing ( with higher frame rate cameras) is to process images thx to the high frame rates ( I do remember you mentioning in one of your posts that you are also way behind in your post processing work).
I do follow your advice religiously and take more shots of the same subject 😁
Hope I am not missing some thing by asking for the feature request
One tip that has worked for me is to create a folder structure for web sized images you use in various places. In my case I have a folder called Web Post, and a subfolder called Web Post 2021, Web Post 2022, etc. All of my images sized for the web and watermarked go in those folders. The files are small and I synch the master folder with my iPhone and iPad so I always have images available. I typically just size them at 800-1000 pixels on the long side and medium quality so the file sizes are modest. I've been doing this for almost 10 years and it's an easy way to have a batch of resized images ready to go for presentations, social media, etc. I'll resize 8-10 images from a trip or event anticipating I will use them later.
 

dabhand16

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@Steve.Would it be possible to add a feature to drag & drop images from the PC to the site & also resize the image automatically
It would save some time specially if we are adding five images to the post.
You really want some unkown software to mess with your images????

In Lightroom you can create and save export parameters to suit any requirements and use them to batch export. In Photoshop it is easy to create actions to resize (or do anything else) and they can also be applied to batches.

I always create resized images for web use after editing. Takes notime at all.
 

RickW

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I can't tell you the number of people I've seen over the years with the "best" possible gear available at time who were, quite frankly, awful. …..

Gear helps, but it's always been WAY more about the skillset of the person behind the lens than the equipment.
Many years ago, in the pre digital era, my buddy and I ran into a guy shooting some street candids with a Leica M3 and a bag ful of Leica glass. My buddy complimented the fellow on his gear and in a surprising moment of candor, the guy replied, “Truth is, I have more money than talent.” I laughed out loud and to this day, that guy was the most “honest” photographer that I have ever met. (Sheepishly, myself included)
 

Fishboy1952

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Thank you Ralph! I appreciate you starting this thread. I’m a Nikon DSLR user, who may transition to Nikon mirrorless down the road. I enjoy reading threads associated with the latest Sony, Canon, and Nikon mirrorless. While the tech side may not directly apply to my kit, I find little nuggets here and there that cause me to rethink how I’m approaching my AF and exposure settings. I’ve learned so much from @Steve as well as others on this forum that are more experienced and better than I am at wildlife photography, primarily BIF.

I’ve also learned through my career in the nuclear industry that it’s very easy to fall into the trap of “siloism”, “group think” and ”I don’t need to listen to others….we’re all good.” So while I shoot Nikon DSLR, I value the input from Sony, Canon, etc., because there might be something there that helps me. It may not, but to disregard others just because I shoot another brand, is pretty short sided.

The thing I like the most about this forum, is the DIVERSITY here. We have professionals, rank amateurs, experienced, no experience, as well as very different brands. And for the most part, we can communicate, agree on things, and agree to disagree. Sometimes it crosses a line. I’m hoping that those instances stay to a minimum.

Again….my humble opinion. This is the best forum I’ve been involved with, and I hope we as the members can maintain that standard.
 

Ralph Bruno

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Thank you Ralph! I appreciate you starting this thread. I’m a Nikon DSLR user, who may transition to Nikon mirrorless down the road. I enjoy reading threads associated with the latest Sony, Canon, and Nikon mirrorless. While the tech side may not directly apply to my kit, I find little nuggets here and there that cause me to rethink how I’m approaching my AF and exposure settings. I’ve learned so much from @Steve as well as others on this forum that are more experienced and better than I am at wildlife photography, primarily BIF.

I’ve also learned through my career in the nuclear industry that it’s very easy to fall into the trap of “siloism”, “group think” and ”I don’t need to listen to others….we’re all good.” So while I shoot Nikon DSLR, I value the input from Sony, Canon, etc., because there might be something there that helps me. It may not, but to disregard others just because I shoot another brand, is pretty short sided.

The thing I like the most about this forum, is the DIVERSITY here. We have professionals, rank amateurs, experienced, no experience, as well as very different brands. And for the most part, we can communicate, agree on things, and agree to disagree. Sometimes it crosses a line. I’m hoping that those instances stay to a minimum.

Again….my humble opinion. This is the best forum I’ve been involved with, and I hope we as the members can maintain that standard.
Totally agree👍👍
 

dogdaddy13

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I think the individuals that are directly involved in this Sony vs Nikon thing should take a deep breath. Mirrorless or DSLR as well. It’s getting a little ridiculous as Steve pointed out. This forum is about helping and motivating photographers to take better pictures. Most of us choose a camera based on what fits our needs and not based solely on which is better. There are always compromises. Because which is better is a personal opinion based on your needs. So, while this back and forth can be entertaining at times it’s getting a little old. When I see a thread about the Z9 photos , that’s what I want to read about. If I see a thread about the Sony A1, that’s what I expect. Not some back and forth about which is better. Come on people, your better than that. Let’s talk about thing's that improve our skills or helps to solve a problem that one of us is having. It’s not necessary to defend your position that your camera is better than theirs. There are plenty of you-tube videos for that.
I have seen some awesome pictures that were shot with i-phones. Many travel photographer / Journalist types that, is all they use. Photography is about the guy behind the camera and the 1/1000 of a second slice of the world.
 
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