LR Class Development Module

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I agree with you Yuwei; I hope the BCG Lightroom Classic course 2, on Development Module will follow; BCG Lightroom course 1 was so useful, for me and I hope it was the case for many of us who are following Steve Perry teachings.
 
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I am sure that Steve will prepare at one time a Lightroom Classic course 2 on Development Module; Post treatment is the final touch! May be a survey among members of this forum would determine the interest and the need for such a course.
 
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For those who can't wait for a possible Develop panel tutorial from Steve, I can whole-heartedly recommend George Jardine's Develop Series tutorials:

Develop:

Adobe Lightroom 5 & 6/CC (Classic) Video Workshop – 25 Tutorials on the Lightroom Develop Module and Digital Photo Processing

Photograph © George A. Jardine Ready to take your digital photography to the next level? This set of 25 video tutorials contains over 6.5 hours of the most comprehensive training available on the Lightroom 5 & 6 (Lightroom “CC” Classic)
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Image Correction Master Class:

The Image Correction Master Class – 21 Videos For Adobe Lightroom (Classic) Versions 5 & Beyond . . .

Photograph © George A. Jardine In nearly every class I teach, and in every workshop, I hear from many photographers that they simply don’t know where to start, when approaching their image correction. Image tonal and color correction is not
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Jardine was a product manager on Lightroom in the early days. He knows his stuff and he explains not just the "how" but also the "why." These videos are a few years old now but they still cover 95% of the current Develop module.

Personally I would put Jardine's presentation and explanatory skills at a level equal to Steve's, and I don't say that lightly, because Steve is truly exceptional.
 
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I appreciate the enthusiasm :)

Quite honestly, the Library Module didn't go as well as we had anticipated. I originally planned to do the Develop Module right afterward, but these things take a TON of time and effort and based on the sales of the Library Module, I haven't decided if it's worth it to continue to pursue Lightroom tutorials. It's odd too - the people who DID purchase the Library Module course seem to love it - it's just getting people to take the step.

We are starting to think that the reason for the lower sales is because the Library just isn't that "exciting" and that the post processing part would garner much more interest. I'm open to your thoughts on this.
 
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I appreciate the enthusiasm :)

Quite honestly, the Library Module didn't go as well as we had anticipated. I originally planned to do the Develop Module right afterward, but these things take a TON of time and effort and based on the sales of the Library Module, I haven't decided if it's worth it to continue to pursue Lightroom tutorials. It's odd too - the people who DID purchase the Library Module course seem to love it - it's just getting people to take the step.

We are starting to think that the reason for the lower sales is because the Library just isn't that "exciting" and that the post processing part would garner much more interest. I'm open to your thoughts on this.
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Thank you Steve for your explanations; I think we have been accustomated to your videos and ebooks, always at the top and during the time I was following your LR library course, I was always thinking about the amount of work you have invested for our best benefice. I personnaly understand the reason why you will not pursue Lightroom tutorials and I will very soon follow your ''Noise reduction video workshop'', mainly for sharpening optimization. I will have before to familiarise me to Photoshop. I wouldl certainly be very happy to learn more from your tutorials, videos and ebooks to come. Thank you so much again!
 
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Steve said:
I appreciate the enthusiasm :)

Quite honestly, the Library Module didn't go as well as we had anticipated. I originally planned to do the Develop Module right afterward, but these things take a TON of time and effort and based on the sales of the Library Module, I haven't decided if it's worth it to continue to pursue Lightroom tutorials. It's odd too - the people who DID purchase the Library Module course seem to love it - it's just getting people to take the step.

We are starting to think that the reason for the lower sales is because the Library just isn't that "exciting" and that the post processing part would garner much more interest. I'm open to your thoughts on this.
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Steve,

Library Module is not needed by most amateur photographers who don't take 2TB of images every year - hence the less than ideal sales of your LR Course #1. If I have only 50 books, I don't need the Dewey Library System. But if you have 50 million books, you can't live without it.

But every amateur photographer needs to post process her images. They far outnumber your 2TB images/ year photogs. I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio is 1:10.

Or you can do a combination of LR and PS course - just like your Wildlife book - and you can expand to Focus and Exposure books if the combo is successful.

We are eagerly but patiently waiting :)
 
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I'm one of those who purchased and loved the Library Module course. I would recommend it highly to anyone using Lightroom or considering using Lightroom.

I would definitely purchase the post-processing course. (in video form, or book form, or whatever...)
 
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Steve said:
I appreciate the enthusiasm :)

Quite honestly, the Library Module didn't go as well as we had anticipated. I originally planned to do the Develop Module right afterward, but these things take a TON of time and effort and based on the sales of the Library Module, I haven't decided if it's worth it to continue to pursue Lightroom tutorials. It's odd too - the people who DID purchase the Library Module course seem to love it - it's just getting people to take the step.

We are starting to think that the reason for the lower sales is because the Library just isn't that "exciting" and that the post processing part would garner much more interest. I'm open to your thoughts on this.
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Hey there Steve. I too think that a Develop Module tutorial/workshop would be great and far better attended than the one for the Library Module. In my opinion the Library module is rarely used to its full capacity by the majority of users because of a lack of need for the full extent of the database and its sophistication. On the other hand the Develop Module can seem far more complex until a user has had a bit of training. Even though there are several books and videos already out there on the Develop Module we would be paying for your teaching skills (which are excellent!!), presentation quality, and depth of knowledge. I would support a Develop Module workshop.
Cheers,
 
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I would buy the Development Module in a heartbeat as well...even with 3 years using LR and another 6 or 7 using Aperture before that the Libraryone taught me a ton.
 
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Steve said:
I appreciate the enthusiasm :)

Quite honestly, the Library Module didn't go as well as we had anticipated. I originally planned to do the Develop Module right afterward, but these things take a TON of time and effort and based on the sales of the Library Module, I haven't decided if it's worth it to continue to pursue Lightroom tutorials. It's odd too - the people who DID purchase the Library Module course seem to love it - it's just getting people to take the step.

We are starting to think that the reason for the lower sales is because the Library just isn't that "exciting" and that the post processing part would garner much more interest. I'm open to your thoughts on this.
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Steve, I am another Lightroom Library Module purchaser who would love to see a 'Develop" module. I must say that when you originally launched it, I thought the prospect of it would seem a little dull because I too really craved the insight on the "Develop"side. How wrong I was. I have learnt so much from rewatching a number of the segments and, frankly, material that I really needed to know. The software is so powerful yet I believe many of us are only using it to a fraction of its capability.

I just came back from five days of shooting grizzly Bears in Northern British Columbia (6500 images). For the first time I used your technique of creating a fresh catalogue on an external SSD HD (with an immediate second copy to another SSD) on my laptop and then when I got home yesterday, merged that catalogue with my main one on my external RAID array and desktop...thought I'd died and gone to heaven. I had previously watched so many videos and read so many articles on how to manage workflow when travelling and none of them ever really seemed to make sense. People who make these types of videos and write these articles don't seem to realize that wildlife photographers shooting RAW quickly amass a ton of data. It was only five days for me but it was still nearly 700 GB of data. If people read this comment, I cannot stress enough how much sense this made, how easy it was, how quick it was and how efficient overall it proved. I did daily downloads to the SSDs, instantly had two copies, immediately reformatted my memory cards for the next shoots, did selected edits in the evening in the cabin, created a new dedicated Collection for the trip and when it was merged with my main catalogue, everything was there. Your info was worth its weight in gold and has meaningfully transformed my workflow.

I certainly realize and appreciate that the work involved in producing those many hours of content is considerable but I too wonder if a "Develop" module would sell better and, ironically motivate more people to go back and acquire the Library module too. The following image was edited on my laptop in that remote cabin and seamlessly merged back into my main catalogue yesterday.

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What Marcus said.

I also ended up revamping my workflow...but it was going to happen anyway. We lived full time in our RV for 8 years and my catalog was on my laptop with originals across the WiFi to my server media computer. Moved into a house in Feb and shifted the catalog to an iMac wor large screen and speed with a RAID for the originals. Used the Libtay. Purse to establish keywords, an improved original folder and collection sorting system, and an improved workflow to go from all of them to the ones to PP to the exports for the travel blog. Will keep a catalog with same keywords and structure on the laptop for future travels and PP while gone and merge with main on return.
 
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Thanks for the feedback and thoughts. It does seem like there is a consensus about the develop module likely being more popular than the library module and one thing I hadn't thought of is what Marcus mentioned - that maybe the develop module series would being people to the library module series and give it more life. I'll probably do some kind of a reader survey before I dive in to gauge interest, but I have to say, I think this is back on the table.
 
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