New camera rumours from an Italian forum

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Marco74

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Hi,
Here in Italy, there is a forum called Nikonland.
The editors have a strong relationship with the country official distributor of Nikon product.
They have just reported rumours regarding a new Nikon body with this characteristic:

Professional body
8k
45 mpx sensor
burst higher than the Z7 II
Higher price (But lower than Sony A1)
Presentation this early summer.

There are 3 other Z-bodies in development with different sensor cuts.

Kind regards, Ciao
Marco
 
Dear Steve, Honestly, I don't know, maybe.

This guys, last time spoke about the delay in the distribution of the D6 defined date that at the end was correct.
One of my best friends writes for this forum some article regarding wildlife photography, and he had the possibility to test one of the samples of D6 before the distribution.
They also test all the new Nikon product quite in advance regarding other well-known photographers or another international forum.

To say that their news often turned out to be true.
I will keep you informed or take a look at yourself, but the forum is in the Italian language. ;)
 
Thank you for sharing this. It does indeed sound positive, alongside NR quoting Thom Hogan's post about Nikon's pending cameras
 
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Thank you for sharing this. It does indeed sound positive, alongside NR quoting Thom Hogan's post about Nikon's pending cameras


Nikon and Sony if combined are collectively diverse and strong with a secure market share that matches Canon.
The overall fact is camera sales are in the toilet and not showing any signs of coming good.
The camera industry needs to consolidate or rationalise, its fundamental. the market is not big enough to have three major players all duplicating and leapfrogging each other...…..here I go for some fun, LOL, my prediction is yes its likely Sony will take over Nikon if things don't improve but hey I wouldn't be surprised if Nikon will buy out Sony in a reverse buy out. This is a common practice similar to America where company profits are not as important as growth that drives the share price. The underdog is better to buy the larger dog it has far more strategic financial benefits going forward especially if you publicly listed and heavily financed. I mean Banks wouldn't be pouring money in to Nikon and share holders would stick around to long if things were seriously bad.
I think Nikon and Sony are much more than rivals, Japanese business strategy's are unique and long term LOL.
Who Knows, who cares LOl, but Nikon is here to stay by Brand regardless of ownership changes, either on its own or be consolidated.
The actions, decisions, product designee decisions by Nikon are just wrong from a customer or market perspective, Nikon management is running things purely for share holder and lending institutions, if Nikons financial dilemma is so bad, banks would weigh up if its better to pour money into Nikon and hope they trade out or there is a take over, I mean Unit sales and the camera market is at really zero growth and declining, so yes it would make sense for banks to have a controlled soft landing as the brand name is worth the real money nothing else, and maybe as we see China being only ever is interested in Brand Names it could be a big surprise as to who knocks on the door if ever anyone at all.
The seas are rough and no let up in sight Bottom line time is the only friend Nikon has, I mean this whole situation with Nikons financial wows could be all by designee.
Simply put Nikon is not putting the customer first, one needs to really reflect as to Why.


I keep saying that the next 12 to 24 months will see some dramatic changes in the camera industry with new innovative products etc widening the gap from what we have and want or need, maybe its time to get rid of all that older gear and go cautiously forward only when the time is right and if there is a desire to. Alternatively switch of the internet and enjoy what you have LOL

Only an opinion from a humble left filed perspective LOL
Oz down Under
 
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The question is the price point.
I recently sold my D850 to add the Z6II at my kit, I already have the Z6 and a D5.
As things currently stand, given the small difference between the two Zs, I regret it a little, but I had to lighten the kit and start the transition to mirrorless.
I think my situation is quite common to many, several friends are taking the same step. The Z9 will only be welcome if it is aligned with the D850's release price, but it will hardly be the case.
For my kind of photography, wildlife and landscape, the 850 was an excellent camera but it is not a multipurpose one.
In fact, I bought it to complement the D5.
A Z9 at the price of, for example, of a D5 I don't think it will make big numbers in sales. At least, I will hardly take it into consideration, especially if it will have the same sensor as the previous one as it could be seen that the resolution probably is the same. The only advantage in the new release is that it will probably lower the price of the Z7IIs that I am waiting to buy because in my opinion, to date, they are not worth the money, at that point my D850 was better. My opinion, obviously.
 
The question is the price point.
I recently sold my D850 to add the Z6II at my kit, I already have the Z6 and a D5.
As things currently stand, given the small difference between the two Zs, I regret it a little, but I had to lighten the kit and start the transition to mirrorless.
I think my situation is quite common to many, several friends are taking the same step. The Z9 will only be welcome if it is aligned with the D850's release price, but it will hardly be the case.
For my kind of photography, wildlife and landscape, the 850 was an excellent camera but it is not a multipurpose one.
In fact, I bought it to complement the D5.
A Z9 at the price of, for example, of a D5 I don't think it will make big numbers in sales. At least, I will hardly take it into consideration, especially if it will have the same sensor as the previous one as it could be seen that the resolution probably is the same. The only advantage in the new release is that it will probably lower the price of the Z7IIs that I am waiting to buy because in my opinion, to date, they are not worth the money, at that point my D850 was better. My opinion, obviously.
Here is Oz our club members are sitting on the D850 and D750 and waiting for the mirrorless fruit to mature more, also the fact that there are so many more changes on the horizon.
The D850 and D5 are the ticket for many as it covers all basis, if weight is an issue then there into the PF glass at all levels.
Quite a few have taken up the Z6II and pairing it up with the D850, you see many don't want the weight size and noise of the D5 as there are a lot of bird specialist shooters in the club.
We will never get a camera that dose it all LOL, its always we need 2 or 3 cameras, if you don't want the weight and cost the only solution is compromise in what we do.
Ok the D850 and Z6 II is popular, some have gone fully Z6 II Z7 II, my self I sold my D4s D5 with absolutely no regrets and got 2 x D850 bodies a nd a 70-200 FL.
The one d850 has a power pack perminatly, but usually I only ever go out with one camera and one lens well mosty.
Honestly everyone is different, but myself I find there really isn't anything I cant do on the D850 with the right glass.
I had been lent from Sony an a A9 when it came out, wow 20 fps, I needed to wind it back to 10 fps, I mean if you cant get the shot in 10 fps your the problem or just video it.
Resolution colour are my preferences, the bonus is a little speed, if a D850 replacement came out with 12 FPS at 45 MP and didn't do less than the D850 in other features it would be all I want, why do you need two cameras, simple, because they up the speed of the new Pro D6 equivalent, we will always as consumers want what we cant have and that's the one camera that dose it all.
Nikon needs to focus on its customer needs at is sorely lacking.


Be at peace, Oz down under
 
My considerations in the actual Nikon camera are possible to resume below.

D5: Great camera built like a tank, weighty, very noisy, amazing AF, burst and buffer, good ISO but worst dynamic range, after 1,5 stop of recovery of shadows start the banding.

D850, Great resolution and colour, very good AF, good buffer and burst (form me), medium ISO, for my taste, I set the limit to 3200.
Amazing dynamic range with 5 stop of recovery of shadow.

Z6, Z6II; Excellent resolution, a compromise between the D5 and the D850, no noise, light, good battery life especially with version C.
Discreet AF but lower than the reflex cameras above, some problem in situations where a subject is in shadow with the light behind. Exaggeratedly large AF point.
Body Z + FTZ has the same weight as the D850.
ISO holds, in my opinion, better than the D5, perhaps because having more resolution, once the noise reduction has been applied, there is more detail.
Z-lenses are better overall than F-lenses.
The stabilized sensor is miraculous; I shot several times at 1/40 of a second with excellent results with the 600 FL handheld.

Personally, I am gradually transitioning to the Z system for the indisputable advantages of ML. In my opinion that will be the future.
Furthermore, the weight factor is quite important for me because I love to photograph in the mountains. Now I can afford to carry in my backpack a focal range from 24 to 500 with just over 3.7kg. When my partner and I go crazy, pushing ourselves to the limit of our abilities with long hikes or elevation greater than 1k meters, every gram less is important.

In summary, a Nikon similar to the A1 will be welcome but not to the cost of a D5 because I remain of the idea, and also from the brochure, it seems that it is so, that the 50 Mpx sensor will hardly have the ISO tightness very high. Also, a very dense sensor requires lenses of the highest level. The high resolution emphasizes the blur of the subject and the problems caused by atmospheric conditions.
When with the D850 I encountered problems of high humidity in the air, I had to switch to the D5 to have an acceptable quality.
So, no, I would hardly be willing to spend the money of a D5 for an equivalent A1; for me, it is not worth it.

Personally, a professional D5 style camera body but in ML format and a replacement for the D850, with the same selling price is what I would prefer.
 
Hi Steve what is the suggested size of images should I wish to load a couple up, I am told the images are to large then there not ? can you help please, kindest regards Oz down Under
I have some stuff posted in the help section (including a Lightroom preset for exporting the correct size).


Basically, keep the image under 1200px and you should be good :)
 
Steve, I've successfully downloaded and imported the LR preset. I have one question though. I don't get the EXPORT box at the bottom. Instead I get "BATCH EXPORT". How do I change that to the EXPORT button which I prefer? Thanks for all you do for us
PS: I figured out what was going on. I was putting a check in the box before the preset. That, I guess, makes it a batch export request?? With no check and just selecting the preset gives the standard EXPORT. Other than that it works great.
 
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Steve, I've successfully downloaded and imported the LR preset. I have one question though. I don't get the EXPORT box at the bottom. Instead I get "BATCH EXPORT". How do I change that to the EXPORT button which I prefer? Thanks for all you do for us
PS: I figured out what was going on. I was putting a check in the box before the preset. That, I guess, makes it a batch export request?? With no check and just selecting the preset gives the standard EXPORT. Other than that it works great.
I'm not sure - the attachment didn't work. Can you try posting it again?
 
As I've stated I was getting the Batch Export when I put a check in the small box in front of the BCG Forums Export preset. I thought that was how to select it. I've found that if you just select the preset by clicking on the preset name the normal EXPORT box will be there instead of the BATCH EXPORT. I also found that if you use the BATCH EXPORT box you can still export just the single photo file with the preset specs as you set them.

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As I've stated I was getting the Batch Export when I put a check in the small box in front of the BCG Forums Export preset. I thought that was how to select it. I've found that if you just select the preset by clicking on the preset name the normal EXPORT box will be there instead of the BATCH EXPORT. I also found that if you use the BATCH EXPORT box you can still export just the single photo file with the preset specs as you set them.

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Honestly, I'm not sure, mine doesn't have Batch Export at all and I can't seem to make it do it - what version of Lightroom is that? I have the current Classic version but that looks older. Does it only do it with that preset?
 
Most current Classic LR, PC version. 10.11 Release, Camera Raw 13.1
Scroll down to the second section of this page - multi-batch export.


That looks like what's happening. I wonder if there's another export option checked under the Lightroom presets tab.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure, mine doesn't have Batch Export at all and I can't seem to make it do it - what version of Lightroom is that? I have the current Classic version but that looks older. Does it only do it with that preset?
My LR works like Roger's (running on an iMac). I ran into a similar problem a few months ago.

It looks like you should check the box beside the preset you want to use. But, that doesn't do what you think. You use the check box if you want to export using more than one output format (hence the change in the button to 'batch export'). If you click the check-box, you do not have the option to change the export settings - they are all greyed out.

To output using a preset, just click on the preset name. That brings up the preset settings on the right side. You can change the settings if you want. Then, click 'Export'. Not sure I undersyand why Adob e set it up this way.
 
Honestly, I'm not sure, mine doesn't have Batch Export at all and I can't seem to make it do it - what version of Lightroom is that? I have the current Classic version but that looks older. Does it only do it with that preset?
Only time that I've ever seen it. On my normal workflow though I use the Loopdeck Export preset. One button and it's exported...Before I went to the Loopdeck I used the standard right click on export, then my normal web preset acme up and I just clicked the EXPORT button at the bottom.
 
My LR works like Roger's (running on an iMac). I ran into a similar problem a few months ago.

It looks like you should check the box beside the preset you want to use. But, that doesn't do what you think. You use the check box if you want to export using more than one output format (hence the change in the button to 'batch export'). If you click the check-box, you do not have the option to change the export settings - they are all greyed out.

To output using a preset, just click on the preset name. That brings up the preset settings on the right side. You can change the settings if you want. Then, click 'Export'. Not sure I undersyand why Adob e set it up this way.
I'm not positive but I think that I've used that check box before on previous presets but I've never seen that BATCH EXPORT box before before??? That's why I got confused as to what I was suppose to do.
 
OK, I got it.

When you click the checkbox option, it goes into batch export mode and allows you to check other boxes to export with multiple presets. If you uncheck the box and just click the BCG Forums Export (without checking the box) it should go back to normal.
 
Without any instructions from Adobe (that I've seen) it sure looks like a multiple choice box to check which one you want to use when you have multiple presets listed.
 
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