Nikon z9 v Nikon D6

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I am currently on the waiting list for a Z9 My current thoughts are to trade my D500 and D6 for the Z9 and keep my D850 I mainly shoot wildlife and I want the Z9 for fast moving action shots e.g. small birds in flight. Will I find any benefits in focus acquisition when comparing the Z9 with the D6 Also, is the Z9 any better than DSLR's at acquiring focus lock when the subject is moving fast against a busy background.
 
That’s interesting. I note that Steve got rid of his D6 when he got the Z9 and he still seems to have his D850. Perhaps I should be thinking of not going ahead with the Z9 at the present time and stick with the D850 and D6!
 
maybe he’ll weigh in, but iirc he mentioned trying to sell before the used sales price went down too much
I have agreed a trade in price that I can live with. Just want to make the right choice. Have just been looking at Steve’s video on the ftz adaptor. Looks like all my f lens glass would perform well on the Z9. It’s just the issue of focus acquisition when the subject is moving fast. No camera is perfect , but I’m hoping the Z9 would outperform my DSLR’s.
 
I am currently on the waiting list for a Z9 My current thoughts are to trade my D500 and D6 for the Z9 and keep my D850 I mainly shoot wildlife and I want the Z9 for fast moving action shots e.g. small birds in flight. Will I find any benefits in focus acquisition when comparing the Z9 with the D6 Also, is the Z9 any better than DSLR's at acquiring focus lock when the subject is moving fast against a busy background.
Im at Magee Marsh right now shooting really fast moving warblers that are hiding in bushes, so its a really difficult scenario for any camera. I just recently received by Z9 (non-NPS member) and had sold my D850 and Z7 for it. I personally have not noticed a huge difference in autofocus performance between my D6 and Z9 (which is amazing to see) except in one scenario where the Z9 definitely is better: When the warblers are hidden behind twigs and leaves and maybe only their head is popped out, the Z9 can still find the eye of the bird and maintain better focus on them, though its not always 100 percent accurate. The D6 will often just focus on the obstructing twig or leaf once the bird is more out of view.
 
I'd strongly suggest the D6 is the keeper, I'm selling my 850 (anyone interested). Recently I snapped a soccer game. Couple hundred photos with the Z9 then a couple hundred with the D6. I could see no difference in the swift focus and hold from both cameras, equal. . Next I had the D850 with me too, so I mounted the same 70-200 GII lens, and was stunned and surprised at how slow it focused. No way is it in the league of the D6 and Z9
D6 Z9, fantastic pair to own. Mention however, the Z9 may not focus on stationary subject while the D6 is focused faster then a nano second. Nikon needs to make that right...
 
I'd strongly suggest the D6 is the keeper, I'm selling my 850 (anyone interested). Recently I snapped a soccer game. Couple hundred photos with the Z9 then a couple hundred with the D6. I could see no difference in the swift focus and hold from both cameras, equal. . Next I had the D850 with me too, so I mounted the same 70-200 GII lens, and was stunned and surprised at how slow it focused. No way is it in the league of the D6 and Z9
D6 Z9, fantastic pair to own. Mention however, the Z9 may not focus on stationary subject while the D6 is focused faster then a nano second. Nikon needs to make that right...
I do dabble in landscape photography and so I thought of keeping the D850 for that. Also it’s a bit lighter to carry on safaris. However, putting aside the weight issue perhaps the 45mp Z9 would serve well as a wildlife and landscape camera. Any thoughts?
 
i think if you're going to keep one, the d6 is the one to keep. the z9 and d850 overlap very strongly and i can't see anything the d500 or d850 can do that the z9 can't
So the Z9 would be good for landscape as well as wildlife action. The main reason for keeping the D850 was landscape photography and the lighter weight and less bulk when on safaris
 
Im at Magee Marsh right now shooting really fast moving warblers that are hiding in bushes, so its a really difficult scenario for any camera. I just recently received by Z9 (non-NPS member) and had sold my D850 and Z7 for it. I personally have not noticed a huge difference in autofocus performance between my D6 and Z9 (which is amazing to see) except in one scenario where the Z9 definitely is better: When the warblers are hidden behind twigs and leaves and maybe only their head is popped out, the Z9 can still find the eye of the bird and maintain better focus on them, though its not always 100 percent accurate. The D6 will often just focus on the obstructing twig or leaf once the bird is more out of view.
How do you find the comparison between the Z9 and D6 when cropping. Do the 45mp make a big difference.
 
I had a D5 for 6 years before I switched to the Z9. For me there are really only two things that the D5 can do better. Firstly, the AF is faster and more accurate in very dark environments and secondly, it has a higher dynamic range at high ISO, which leaves more scope for image processing. Otherwise, I only see advantages in the Z9. The noise, the color reproduction, everything fits even with high ISO. If you are in the lower ISO range, you can benefit from the high resolution. For me, the Z9 is the perfect all-rounder.
 
IQ with the Z9 and D850 is virtually identical. Handling/weight/etc between the D6/Z9 is very similar. So if you want a lighter weight body or sometimes shoot with one on tripod and second rig on a strap it makes the most sense to keep the D850. Plus the D6 is worth more. That was my thought process in selling my D5.
 
IQ with the Z9 and D850 is virtually identical. Handling/weight/etc between the D6/Z9 is very similar. So if you want a lighter weight body or sometimes shoot with one on tripod and second rig on a strap it makes the most sense to keep the D850. Plus the D6 is worth more. That was my thought process in selling my D5.
Thank you for the feedback. As a matter if interest do you have any regrets parting with the D5. The more I look into the more I’m questioning whether I should keep the D6 and wait a bit longer before going mirrorless.
 
Thank you for the feedback. As a matter if interest do you have any regrets parting with the D5. The more I look into the more I’m questioning whether I should keep the D6 and wait a bit longer before going mirrorless.
I don't regret it. Depends on how much you find yourself cropping. For my purposes I find that for full frame images down sampling can make up a lot for high ISO. And if you have to crop it's nice to have the pixels. So I choose to go with the high rez sensor. Honestly I would not have bought the Z9 if it was simply a mirrorless D5/6.
 
If a Z9 is in budget, the edge cases where an F body are superior are getting pretty slim.

If you're really looking for a compact body for landscape, a used Z7 is better than your F bodies. It's lighter, and mirrorless is an absolute joy to shoot landscapes with.

If you're using D lenses, then you certainly need an F body. But you might want to consider shifting to Z lenses while the D lenses still have residual value.

If you shoot critical subjects (ie: paid gigs) under wacky LED lighting, the Z9 can band in rare situations. I've torture-tested it and haven't had issues, personally, but I know some photographers are concerned. If this could be an issue for you, I'd keep the F body that best covers where you're going to see your crazy lighting (D850 for studio/concert, or D6 for sports).

Since you say you're mostly shooting wildlife, I'll assume you're not shooting under artificial light and you don't have any D lenses. In that case I suggest keeping the D500, because:

  • The D500 is excellent at wildlife photography
  • It has the lowest residual value, and you'll lose the least money by hanging onto it long-term
  • It's your smallest/lightest body, which makes it a great second telephoto
  • The Z9 is an excellent landscape camera, so you don't need an FX DSLR
 
As good as the D850 is (and it's very good) it's AF is not in the same league as the D6 or Z9 - it's good, but it's not as good as the two newer, far more expensive options.

So my view is to sell the D6 only if you need the cash it will command to pay for the Z9, or if you are done with dSLRs - otherwise keep it, it's better at high iso than either D850 or Z9 and in some rare situations the AF will outperform the Z9. You also have the same battery system across cameras which makes life easier (not relevant if you are running the pro batteries in the D850 too)

Sell the D850 in all cases, it doesn't do anything the Z9 can't do.

And I'd also sell the D500 because it doesn't do anything the Z9 can't do and there is not enough difference between 21mp (D500) and 19MP (DX crop of the Z9) to worry about it. Its dynamic range is also the worst of the bunch.

In the end, you'll end up with 2 Z9s and you can trade the D6 to buy the second Z9 :)
 
As good as the D850 is (and it's very good) it's AF is not in the same league as the D6 or Z9 - it's good, but it's not as good as the two newer, far more expensive options.

So my view is to sell the D6 only if you need the cash it will command to pay for the Z9, or if you are done with dSLRs - otherwise keep it, it's better at high iso than either D850 or Z9 and in some rare situations the AF will outperform the Z9. You also have the same battery system across cameras which makes life easier (not relevant if you are running the pro batteries in the D850 too)

Sell the D850 in all cases, it doesn't do anything the Z9 can't do.

And I'd also sell the D500 because it doesn't do anything the Z9 can't do and there is not enough difference between 21mp (D500) and 19MP (DX crop of the Z9) to worry about it. Its dynamic range is also the worst of the bunch.

In the end, you'll end up with 2 Z9s and you can trade the D6 to buy the second Z9 :)
Thank you for your feedback. There have been some great comments since I started this thread. At the outset I was fairly committed to getting the Z9 and parting with my D6. However, I am beginning to waver. I suppose it comes down to two issues:
1 is autofocus on the Z9 a significant step up from the already brilliant D6
2. Do the extra mp’s that the Z9 has provide a significant improvement to image quality when compared to the D6
If the differences are only marginal then I am starting to think that at the present time I may not be ready to embark on the mirrorless journey.
 
Thank you for your feedback. There have been some great comments since I started this thread. At the outset I was fairly committed to getting the Z9 and parting with my D6. However, I am beginning to waver. I suppose it comes down to two issues:
1 is autofocus on the Z9 a significant step up from the already brilliant D6
2. Do the extra mp’s that the Z9 has provide a significant improvement to image quality when compared to the D6
If the differences are only marginal then I am starting to think that at the present time I may not be ready to embark on the mirrorless journey.
The key question, bearing in mind the law of diminishing returns, is….. will any differences really improve your images?

The Z9 will offer WYSIWYG viewfinder, more or less, twice the resolution so more cropping capabilities, and more fps, however, inevitably it will be less robust (try dropping it with the screen folded out 😜), a new lens mount, FTZ’s not withstanding, and, obviously, more software issues for a while.

So, as with so many first world ‘choices’ it comes down to money - if it’s what you want and can afford it, then get the Z9, or do not and use the savings to travel, take more pictures or buy some glass, say a 200mm micro or 19mm TS lens and expand your photography.

Just a thought,

ATB, J
 
Good points,

I seem to be addicted to getting more gear. However, I do have stuff I just don't use. Perhaps I should rein back a bit for now and enjoy what I've already got. The D6 is a great camera and the D850 is no slouch. Im hoping that my partner will start using the D500 to replace her D7200.

Will go down the mirrorless route at some time in the future After all it will not be long before everything is mirrorless.
 
45mp Z9 would serve well as a wildlife and landscape camera. Any thoughts?

Well yes, it would serve very very well for landscape. After using the D6 / Z9 pair, about the only subject I would use the D850 for is portrait and landscape/scenic. I sold my D850 yesterday and am very happy about that.
 
Basically, the Z9 is a D850 with high frame rate and (mostly) better AF. I say mostly as there are some types of shots my D850's do better with in certain, specific situations. For the most part, the Z9 is an upgrade from a gripped D850. If I had to get rid of my Z9, D6 or D850, I'd choose the D850. The D5/D6 files are just so nice at higher ISO's. The Z9 cleans up ok, but the D5/D6 just excel!
 
I am currently on the waiting list for a Z9 My current thoughts are to trade my D500 and D6 for the Z9 and keep my D850 I mainly shoot wildlife and I want the Z9 for fast moving action shots e.g. small birds in flight. Will I find any benefits in focus acquisition when comparing the Z9 with the D6 Also, is the Z9 any better than DSLR's at acquiring focus lock when the subject is moving fast against a busy background.
The D850 is 7fps (gripped9) and has beautiful files. However the Z9's fps and eye AF is just awesome. You'll get more for your D850 is you sell now instead of in 2-4 years. These are all brilliant cameras - the best Nikon has made. Keep the D500 due to 1.5x crop factor (especially for birds that are so small)
 
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