Official Nikon Z9 Launch, Info, and Discussion Thread

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sh1209

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I have no idea what will happen for the gen 2 Zs, I don't even own a Nikon (yet), but I find it logical that the bodies with the less good AF are updated first. And it's actually quite admirable from Nikon to provide such a significant improvement to bodies 2 (well 3 if you count on the Z 9 is the third gen in term of AF) generations back!
If I understand your post correctly, the Z6/7 gen 1&2 share the same processor, and that might be the limiting factor in updating gen 2 ? They might already hitting their processor limits?
I wish that sort of customer care was more common. We all know quite a lot of camera bodies could perform better than they do with some firmware love, but it rarely happens intentionally to sell a newer body. I'm not saying every camera could be 2x better, but certainly quite a few things could be marginally or significantly improved and aren't. Let's hope this great firmware update thing from Nikon never stops and inspire more brands to do the same. In fact, coming from software development (not as a developer), I would find perfectly acceptable that firmware could be paid when they bring a significant improvement over the original body you paid for.
The generation two bodies actually have 2 expeed six processors and the generation one bodies only have one, so in theory they should be capable of doing twice the amount of certain processes. It may not be that they’re capable of doing twice the amount but having two processors instead of one they should absolutely be able to do more. I think it would be in their best interest to release a firmware update for these cameras sooner rather than later to stop the bleeding at this point. They’ve lost a lot of loyal customers over fumbles in their mirrorless endeavor for sure.
 

lwan

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The generation two bodies actually have 2 expeed six processors and the generation one bodies only have one, so in theory they should be capable of doing twice the amount of certain processes. It may not be that they’re capable of doing twice the amount but having two processors instead of one they should absolutely be able to do more. I think it would be in their best interest to release a firmware update for these cameras sooner rather than later to stop the bleeding at this point. They’ve lost a lot of loyal customers over fumbles in their mirrorless endeavor for sure.
Then I'm sure they will and just served the ones with the longest frustration first maybe :)
 

sh1209

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Then I'm sure they will and just served the ones with the longest frustration first maybe :)
That’s a good point and I hope you’re right. Again for the most part I’m very pleased with the z6ii and Z7ii especially the ergonomics. I’ve owned Nikon cameras for close to 16 years and have never had any issues. I really want them to succeed as we all should. Competition keeps innovation at the forefront.
 

Venkatesh VT

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I fully agree, the subject recognition isn’t as reliable for a small bird in the middle of leaves and branches but it’s still scary good. But yes, if you are after once if a lifetime pictures, you will get better reliability with the smallest flex spot.
It would not focus on this one though the bird was in the open & the focus point was on the bird
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It would not focus on this one talso hough the bird was in the open & the focus point was on the bird
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It focused a bit later on the lower after i changed focus on the top bird & refocused on the lower bird by which time the bird had slighly turned uts head .This is very inconsitent focus behaviour
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thelordofthelight

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To me this implies Nikon is planning to bring some of the goodies from the Z9 on to Z6/7 II. Obviously they can't/won't offer these upgrades before the Z9 is out in the wild. It also implies it is very unlikely to see anymore major upgrades to the Z6/7 bodies due to HW limitations.

Then I'm sure they will and just served the ones with the longest frustration first maybe :)
 

FB101

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It would not focus on this one though the bird was in the open & the focus point was on the bird
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It would not focus on this one talso hough the bird was in the open & the focus point was on the bird
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It focused a bit later on the lower after i changed focus on the top bird & refocused on the lower bird by which time the bird had slighly turned uts head .This is very inconsitent focus behaviour
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What do you have the priority set to? Focus or trigger or balanced? I use balanced; it sacrifices a few fps so I don’t get the full 30 (but I seem to get the full twenty), but I have not run into any issue like what you are showing.
After 5000 shots I don’t think I had more than a dozen with focus issues.
 

Venkatesh VT

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What do you have the priority set to? Focus or trigger or balanced? I use balanced; it sacrifices a few fps so I don’t get the full 30 (but I seem to get the full twenty), but I have not run into any issue like what you are showing.
After 5000 shots I don’t think I had more than a dozen with focus issues.
Balanced.I am trying to ascertain the pattern where the focus falters so that I am prepared for it & shift focus & then refocus to get the focus correctly.
 

lwan

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To me this implies Nikon is planning to bring some of the goodies from the Z9 on to Z6/7 II. Obviously they can't/won't offer these upgrades before the Z9 is out in the wild. It also implies it is very unlikely to see anymore major upgrades to the Z6/7 bodies due to HW limitations.
That's very plausible too yes indeed.
 

Icarus

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Balanced.I am trying to ascertain the pattern where the focus falters so that I am prepared for it & shift focus & then refocus to get the focus correctly.
I have my tracking on back button focus and my spot focus on my ael lock button. See attached. I have never had the problem you're showing. I have had it refuse to focus
on a bird, but then drop down to ground near bird or focus on something close to bird, then switch to bird and get sharp focus.

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Ad Astra

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One feature I am looking forward to is the inbuilt GPS. I always carry a Garmin GPS with me for creating track logs to geotag my photos. Trouble is I don't always remember to turn it on so having it set in camera will be a plus for me.

The Z 9 certainly looks water resistent in that Morten Hilmer video.
 

iustin

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One feature I am looking forward to is the inbuilt GPS. I always carry a Garmin GPS with me for creating track logs to geotag my photos. Trouble is I don't always remember to turn it on so having it set in camera will be a plus for me.

The Z 9 certainly looks water resistent in that Morten Hilmer video.
The GPS is one of my most looked-for features as well. The Snapbridge integration puts pictures on the other side of the mountain, sometimes, so I'm doing the Garmin thing as well. We will see how accurate/reliable the built-in GPS will be.

As to the rain… I wouldn't dare, not to that extent :)
 

frodoboy

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Has anyone spotted an expected shipping date?
BH says shipping starts on December 15th. I think Adorama or Sammy's said November 30th. Amazon said December 31st! So it's a crap shoot. I think the official ship date is December 15th though since BH is usually on top of that. Hopefully it won't end up like the 500mm pf which some people waited over a year to get. I ordered mine the day you could officially order it and I got it 3 weeks later. A friend ordered his a month after me and it took a month. Another friend ordered his about 3 months after me and it took almost a year to get it!
 

Ken Miracle

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The GPS is one of my most looked-for features as well. The Snapbridge integration puts pictures on the other side of the mountain, sometimes, so I'm doing the Garmin thing as well. We will see how accurate/reliable the built-in GPS will be.

As to the rain… I wouldn't dare, not to that extent :)
If the built in GPS is anything like the one on the D6 is extremely accurate but it does draw a lot of battery juice.
 

Whiskeyman

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I think it'll just be an update. The AF system looks like it's close to the current one (with the addition of 3D), only it works better. I think most of what's in the book will remain the same. As for timeframe, no way to know. I need to get one first and then I'll have a better idea. I'd guess Feb / March at the earliest for the update, but we'll see.
We all need to flood Nikon with e-mails stating how important it is that Steve gets his Z9 on the first day of release so that everyone can utilize his expertise and use tips to better their satisfaction with the camera. ;)
 
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