Official Nikon Z9 Launch, Info, and Discussion Thread

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Okay yes its petapixel which has an erratic record in the photography press...although much of the information is already stated elsewhere, a few features get attention that's overlooked in other articles IME.

The comment on Shooting banks doesn't add up, if indeed the author has in depth experience with all Nikon DSLRs. This should include D850 as well as the recent single digit flagships.
 
The Z9 AF tracking isnt idiot proof. If you set it to auto area and try to photograph a bird that in reality is too far away to make a decent photo its going to lock onto a busy background. So far as others have mentioned one of the wide area modes to initially acquire af with a button programed to 3d tracking for when the bird gets close enough to actually shoot seems to be working very well. For any example of it failing to hold onto a bird in the next county I can show a sequence shot at 120fps with a busy background where it performs perfectly. There are some people out there deliberately testing the AF on shots they would never seriously attempt to take. I suspect those people WANT to show the AF failing for whatever reason. Those same people wont show you when their camera's AF fails. The kingfisher shot below happened in 1/2 a sec.... how do i know? because at 20fps I got less than 10 frames off at it. Anyone doubting the capabilities of the Z9 Af is either full of it or simply not used to it yet.

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The last image is cool if that's cropped in from the previous frame
 
Wildlife- & Landschaftsfotografie mit der Nikon Z 9 - mit Naturfotograf Florian Smit

it is in German, but captions available (auto translate)



Nice, he fells the Z9 lets him do everything with one camera and he doesn't need to carry different bodies.
He is very happy and has trips up soon and he feels the Z9 being so versatile and capable wont let him down, he dose need more time as he has had it only for a few days from what i recall.

Fluent German is one the other languages i speak.

Happy days
 
Yes they are both the same frame.

Nice well done.............there is a lot of good information with importan and balancing views - perspectives in this forum, some other fragile flowers who when they don't like what they see complain and cause the tread to be potentially shut down..................
This thread could be called ..................Z9 discussions, its amazing that its at 93 pages already.
 
Nikon Z9 vs SONY a1 vs Canon EOS R3 EYE AF REVIEW (2022 Edition)





The Jarrod Polan Test

What would you do different if you were given the 3 cameras to test side by side for focus
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Answer, most likely the exact same real world thing.

OK what would i have done differently doing this test.........simple

A BLIND TEST, ie remove the reference to any brand or physical identity of a camera, just show the end results from camera 1, 2, 3 and rely on the results and let the viewer choose or comment, in later video revealing the name of camera 1 2 3.

I think this real life simultaneous comparison is a simple fair coal face indication of what these cameras are like at this stage.

As you can see that they all do a reasonably good yet not a perfect job in their own way.

For Nikon just lagging a little hear and there, could be related to more finer settings maybe, or a few updates, never the less Nikon is amongst it now, the test is about nothing but simple practical side by side comparison of focusing - tracking as it is at this point in time.

The Nikon performed better at distance, the Sony showed better memory recall, Canon hung in there as well.
So my way of thinking is and has been all along...........
Tracking regardless of brand has come a long way and works well in many situations but not all, its something that still needs more time to fully ripen on the vine a little more till fully mature, meanwhile companies are marketing the hell out of tracking on flagship and all subsequent models...........for consumers.

The Question, would i buy one camera over the other based purely on lock on tracking performance.......defiantly Not, and i didn't buy my Z9 because of tracking and 9 different subject tracking modes etc,............. why you ask, well i am invested in Nikon, I still have skill sets and have a reasonable keeper rate............i am happy with really any camera and lens as they are very slimier tools that use a infinite combination of time light and speed to record a subject, also 80 or 90% of the result comes from the user anyway.

Yes the tracking feature to date works well and helps in many situations defiantly but its not the end all.............i feel it has a greater benefit for video while also helping with stills..

The Z9 for me has a combination of the following features some i also found in the D850............

Image file quality
Accurate colour
Dynamic range
ISO quality
Resolution
Speed
Versatility
Build quality
Tilt screen
IBIS re birthing FX non Vr lenses.
Unlimited frame rate capacity
Ability to focus in the dark.
Hand hold at very low shutter speeds.
Auto Tracking, well its a bonus.
Backwards compatible with batteries and lenses.


Would i ever change brands.......unlikely, I think Sony has done a great job in creating Change by paving the way forward, Canon would be my Choice if i did change.

The D850...Z7II still has undoubtedly some of the best image files in the industry for me.................i am not comparing the Z9 to them as its a different tool.

I like the Z9 for what i do so far, i am giving my self 3 months before deciding if to invest progressively in any new glass.

My favorite Nikon's to date, D300 D700 D3X D4s D6 D850, still have the D3X and D850, Love the D850 to pieces, enjoy my little escape camera with my 50mm Ziess and that's the DF.

For myself, Jarrod Polan is great and really dose a great job, he is young and into the future generation in many ways, he is ahead of his game.........i mean he doesn't do the Thom Hogan versions but gee he is more than enough in getting the message across fast and dirty if needed and amazingly funny and entertaining, i cant recall where he has ever been worng in his veiws on gear. He is envied by many of his fellow reviewers.


Happy Days
 
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EDIT: My mistake here. pg 600 of Nikon manual says 3D defaults to sticky setting of 3 whereas Auto area can be 3, 4 or 5. Its just that when 1 or 2 is selected, it defaults to 3. My apologies!

Ok, so i am being extremely nitpicky here but Jared says he used Wide AF area modes on all the brands but it appears he has used the Wide mode on Sony and Auto area AF on Nikon and a comparable mode in Canon, so basically all auto area AF modes where the cameras could track throughout the frame. He then says he used a lock on setting of 5 on all the cameras. In Auto area AF mode on Nikon, the camera doesn't have the sticky option setting of 4 or 5. The camera defaults to a more responsive setting of 1 to 3.

It may help if Nikon or rather all the brands make the sensitivity setting to be changed for each AF Area mode separately instead of having it as one umbrella setting for all AF Area modes. As almost all of us configure multiple AF modes to different buttons, it would really help if i could apply different lock on setting for different AF mode (5 for wide, 1 for Auto and 3D, 3 for dynamic and so on).

Nikon Z9 vs SONY a1 vs Canon EOS R3 EYE AF REVIEW (2022 Edition)


 
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Ok, so i am being extremely nitpicky here but Jared says he used Wide AF area modes on all the brands but it appears he has used the Wide mode on Sony and Auto area AF on Nikon and a comparable mode in Canon, so basically all auto area AF modes where the cameras could track throughout the frame. He then says he used a lock on setting of 5 on all the cameras. In Auto area AF mode on Nikon, the camera doesn't have the sticky option setting of 4 or 5. The camera defaults to a more responsive setting of 1 to 3.

It may help if Nikon or rather all the brands make the sensitivity setting to be changed for each AF Area mode separately instead of having it as one umbrella setting for all AF Area modes. As almost all of us configure multiple AF modes to different buttons, it would really help if i could apply different lock on setting for different AF mode (5 for wide, 1 for Auto and 3D, 3 for dynamic and so on).


What's beyond me is why on earth does Z9 have a lone recall function setting!!!! I hope they give 2-3 options with firmware updates.
 
What's beyond me is why on earth does Z9 have a lone recall function setting!!!! I hope they give 2-3 options with firmware updates.

Interesting, i admire the ability of people who can use all these optional preset assignments, and in a split second you can concentrate and know which button to grab in the heat of the moment.
Its like many people use short cuts on key boards.
I cant do that, its all to geeki for me, i get to immersed in the photography. The less i have to worry about or think of the better, that said i will endveour to give it a go........and see if it sticks.
 
Ok, so i am being extremely nitpicky here but Jared says he used Wide AF area modes on all the brands but it appears he has used the Wide mode on Sony and Auto area AF on Nikon and a comparable mode in Canon, so basically all auto area AF modes where the cameras could track throughout the frame. He then says he used a lock on setting of 5 on all the cameras. In Auto area AF mode on Nikon, the camera doesn't have the sticky option setting of 4 or 5. The camera defaults to a more responsive setting of 1 to 3.

It may help if Nikon or rather all the brands make the sensitivity setting to be changed for each AF Area mode separately instead of having it as one umbrella setting for all AF Area modes. As almost all of us configure multiple AF modes to different buttons, it would really help if i could apply different lock on setting for different AF mode (5 for wide, 1 for Auto and 3D, 3 for dynamic and so on).


I have shot about 8,500 pics with the Z9 as of now. I am convinced the full area AF is better at 'nailing' the focus of the birds in flight's head/eyes far better than any other mode irrespective of the sensitivity settings. In this mode, the Z9 is more likely to latch onto the head or eyes & when I zoom the image 100%, the chances of subject turning out to be tack sharp is significantly higher. Wide-area large mode however tends to latch onto the body or the wings/shoulders even when the head is seen. And even when the AF is on the eye of the bird, when zoomed in 100%, the chances of the subject being tack sharp is significantly lower. I have arrived at this observation shooting pigeons in flight in both the modes with the same sensitivity settings from my terrace. So, in busy background scenarios I tend to focus with wide area large mode set up on the AF button with the focus still assigned to half pressed shutter & then once I have the AF overlay on the bird, I let go off the AF button, & half press the shutter button. The camera then immediately switches to full area mode & I click away, giving myself what I presume a better chance of getting the bird tack sharp! What has been your experience!?
 
Hello Fenton,

I remember one of those youtube live sessions hosted by greys of westminster where they had Ricci and both of us kept asking the same qn in every alternative comment regarding the customization of AF-O+AF Area mode. Its time to pester them with the next set of customization features i think 🤣.

1. Custom control assignment for subject detection
2. Multiple RSF
3. No restriction as to what all functions can be set to any of the custom buttons
4. Toggle options for all custom controls


Not ideal, but a different RSF can be setup in respective Custom bank. Ideally, Nikon should allow up to 4 RSF, which can assigned to different buttons....but it could get complicated
 
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