Official Nikon Z9 Launch, Info, and Discussion Thread

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arbitrage

Well-known member
Reading so many of the entries in this thread, one would think the only possible thing that matters for photographers are the gradations as to how the Z9 compares to Canon and Sony in autofocusing in specific contexts of bird shots. This review captures the primary reason I, for one, tried and rejected switching to Canon and Sony: the ergonomic sense and feel of the camera. Maybe because I'm coming from D850 but I tried an R5 (not an R3, admittedly) and the AI and they just didn't feel as good in the hand and provide me with the same shooting experience that I got from the D850. So I waited for the Z9 (and am still waiting). Anyway, this is one review that differs from most of the others I have seen in terms of what it highlights.
Based on Steve's background this forum has the large majority focused on birds and wildlife so yes, a lot of us do test for that sort of shooting. Of course the Z9 is also suitable for all sorts of other types of photography.

Personally, I compare to Sony and Canon because I own(ed) Sony and Canon and I'm a gear nut with serious GAS issues ;-)

As to ergonomics this is what I've concluded so far:
1) I much prefer the grip material of Nikon over Sony
2) I much prefer the feel of the rubber wheels on Nikon over Sony plastic
3) I like having a top LCD
4) The A1 w grip fits better in my hand than the Z9.
5) The A1 has much better button layout (more of them and in more ergonomic locations).
6) The A1 has the 3rd wheel so all three of my exposure variables can be done without any buttons
7) The A1 has much better button customization options
8) The A1 gives me much better control over the camera and "gets out of my way"
9) The lens release button is better on the right with A1 v left with Z9. I can swap TCs faster without as much juggling.
 

SRLNY

Member
Based on Steve's background this forum has the large majority focused on birds and wildlife so yes, a lot of us do test for that sort of shooting. Of course the Z9 is also suitable for all sorts of other types of photography.

Personally, I compare to Sony and Canon because I own(ed) Sony and Canon and I'm a gear nut with serious GAS issues ;-)

As to ergonomics this is what I've concluded so far:
1) I much prefer the grip material of Nikon over Sony
2) I much prefer the feel of the rubber wheels on Nikon over Sony plastic
3) I like having a top LCD
4) The A1 w grip fits better in my hand than the Z9.
5) The A1 has much better button layout (more of them and in more ergonomic locations).
6) The A1 has the 3rd wheel so all three of my exposure variables can be done without any buttons
7) The A1 has much better button customization options
8) The A1 gives me much better control over the camera and "gets out of my way"
9) The lens release button is better on the right with A1 v left with Z9. I can swap TCs faster without as much juggling.
Heck, I'm sure I'd agree with most of these points -- for me, doesn't matter as much re: buttons and I've never had any issue about lens release on my Nikons, but I sure just hope when I get my camera that I won't be agreeing with your points 4 and 8!
 

fcotterill

Well-known member
Thanks for sharing.

Yes as pointed out repeatedly, discussions in the comparative camera arena is better off in dedicated threads. One simple reason is very few forum members can afford multiple systems..... The only relevant comparisons are to other Nikon cameras. Pages of this Z9 thread are already sidetracked into comparing an intangible 'best camera" debate. , and these even descended into name calling etc. Some forum members feed off this topic which is fine, but in a dedicated thread.


Reading so many of the entries in this thread, one would think the only possible thing that matters for photographers are the gradations as to how the Z9 compares to Canon and Sony in autofocusing in specific contexts of bird shots. This review captures the primary reason I, for one, tried and rejected switching to Canon and Sony: the ergonomic sense and feel of the camera. Maybe because I'm coming from D850 but I tried an R5 (not an R3, admittedly) and the AI and they just didn't feel as good in the hand and provide me with the same shooting experience that I got from the D850. So I waited for the Z9 (and am still waiting). Anyway, this is one review that differs from most of the others I have seen in terms of what it highlights.
 

O

Well-known member
I used af sensitivity 2, steady, & wide-area large.

I understand if the bird is not in the box & the af sensitivity comes into play....but at the beginning I had the bird within the box, it simply couldn't detect the bird, it would either focus on the grass strands in front or the shrubs at the back...

Think about it... the subject is in the box; animal detection is switched on...
If can't see the eye/head then torso or wings it should be... There isn't any need for it to focus or delay its focus...

Sensitivity/lock-on AG is not the issue here, IMO.

It is the ability to recognise the pattern. If it did, it wouldn't have mattered whether one was in 1 or 5 so long as one keeps it within the box.
AF sensitivity should matter only when the box is not encompassing the subject. That's when it should come into play...not otherwise...

I understand these things can't be 100%, but I felt it should have done better in this scenario.

Hope the updates get it better by about 20-30%.
May i ask, if you had your DSLR, say D5 D850 ? how would you have gone shooting these subjects.............easier, more or less keeper rates
 
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