Opinion of the Sony alpha 1 from a lifelong Nikon shooter

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Hello everyone! I wanted to share my thoughts on the Sony a1 after spending the last couple of months and about 40K images shot with it (I have weeks of editing left!). As the title points out I have been a lifelong Nikon user going back to the Nikon F5 (I had 3 of them in the first month they released, I left Canon F1N). I started in photography when I was 12 and by the time I was 17 I was doing paid weddings, at 19 I was a photojournalist, city photographer, and doing weddings as well. I continued on this path until around 24 when I decided to take a different path in life.

After a separation from any serious form of photography I decided to get back into it as a hobby in 2019. This required new modern gear and at the time it made sense to dive back into Nikon. I purchased a D850, D500 and Z6 along with all the new glass to launch myself into the digital world of photography with a focus on wildlife, landscape and astro. I was fairly content except for the Z6 and anything moving really left a poor taste in my mouth of what mirrorless is all about. It wasn't until the Canon R5/6 launched that I could really see the potential of mirrorless, yes the a9 series was out there but didn't really excite me.

I had decided to stick with DSLR, planned to add a D6 to the mix and then Sony dropped the a1 and that changed everything for me. As many have probably read in other post I had all the lenses I wanted/needed except for the 600 F4. This being such an expensive lens it would anchor me into a system for the next 10 plus years. This was why I like many have struggled in what path to take to invest in gear with DSLR on its way out and mirrorless blazing new paths (Steve's new video out today really nails this).

The Sony alpha 1 checked off all the boxes I wanted other than being a Nikon. I decided to invest money into an a1, Sony 200-600, Sony 1.4x & 2x tele and Sony 90mm macro. You can do the math but it was a lot of money to try out a new camera system but knowing I was going to spend over $13K on a single lens I felt it was best to try something else before I pulled the trigger.

Well long story short the moment I shot the a1 my mind was blown away! Before all the Nikon fan boys bash me I have to say I was sick to my stomach at the thought of leaving Nikon (I haven't yet fyi), buying into a different system was agonizing and that really surprised me. It is normal for us to have an attachment to gear we spend our hard earned money on, gear we are proud of, and gear that has delivered amazing images.

For me photography brings me enjoyment in a few ways, one of which is learning. Learning new techniques that take my photography to new levels, learning new gear and how to maximize it's potential and post processing which I find to be the hardest journey but can be very rewarding (I am still old school, I limit most of my editing to dodge and burn). So the a1 or any new camera is fun because it has great potential and requires an investment in learning the camera.

So now that we have the long winded set up of where I came from and why I decided to buy into Sony let's talk about the camera and see some results.

Few things I had heard about Sony in the past that turned me off are: the menus are horrible, the ergonomics are horrible, the mount is to small and Nikon has the edge, they don't have the lenses and on and on. I believed all of that until I bought the a1. Personally it is all BS. Sony has evolved on most things and I suspect they will continue to just like all the other brands.

Menu system: I actually like them even though there are over 50 pages of them! I can't speak to their older menus as I have never used them but I think the a1 menu is pretty solid. It actually makes a lot of sense once you start using them. The one thing that those 50 pages of menus give you is choices! When compared to Nikon the Sony is more "complicated" but frankly that is because Nikon doesn't give you much choice. The a1 is more customizable to how the photographer wants to use their tool than any camera I have ever seen. My opinion Sony menu systems and customization is a major win over my other cameras.

Ergonomics: I don't mind them. I expected to not like them but I honestly haven't found the camera uncomfortable or hard to use. I will say that I wish there was a little more space between the inside grip and the lens. I have large hands and my knuckles can on some lenses touch the lens but not in an uncomfortable way but gloves could be an issue. Reality is I don't shoot with gloves anyway (I live in TX) so not a big issue for me but I could see it being a problem for others. The other thing that should be changed is the lens release is between the lens mount and the grip. What a horrible idea! I can feel it with my fingers at times and getting a finger between the lens and grip to push the button isn't as easy as if the button was on the other side of the lens mount. My opinion Sony ergonomics aren't bad but Nikon is better. Not a deal breaker but an area Sony can and should improve.

Lenses: My experience with the couple of lenses and the 2 tele converters I have is they are very good and reasonably priced (some Sony lenses sure have a Sony tax price). Fast, accurate, smooth, fairly priced and even the 2x on the 200-600 focuses fast, accurately and is still sharp with a 2x. I don't know of any Nikon lenses that are just as sharp with the 2x especially on a non prime that they are without. I don't know what secret sauce Sony has with teleconverters but damn they are impressive! The Sony 200-600 is better then the Nikon 200-500 and the Nikon 500 PF is better than the 200-600 (I would sure hope so as it is a $3,500 prime!) but the 200-600 can take tele with no loss in focus speed which the Nikons can't). I really was shocked when I took the a1 with Sony 90mm macro out to shoot flowers, no tripod and windy and also had the D850 with Nikon 105 micro. The 105 Nikon, hunts, is loud and slow. The a1 was so fast to focus, the 90mm was quiet, didn't hunt and just locked on. I frankly was shocked! I will show some side by sides of flowers and let you decide which is better.

I read all the time that Sony doesn't do anything a good photographer can do with a DSLR. I call BS on that one! The a1 in fact will deliver results that no Nikon will. The simple fact that I can do anything any Nikon can do but at 30 fps, no blackout, and deliver damn near 100% in focus is not something any current Nikon can do. It is a fact, maybe not one some want to except. I haven't used it at 30fps other than to play and go wow that is fast! I do set it at 20fps but I can see some times that 30 would be worth using. The amount of choices we have with wings, expressions and capturing the peak of action is simply amazing! There are many of times with the D850 running at 9fps I would end up disappointed. Either I didn't get a wing just as I wanted or the one I did wasn't tack sharp. So far with the a1 I haven't had that experience. To me that makes the camera worth the $6,500!

I wish Sony had used CFexpress B but the A cards have delivered good results. Dual card slots that I can use CF A or SD is really nice! I have not hit the buffer running 20fps in lossless raw. The camera doesn't lock up as it is writing to the card and it clears its buffer quickly.

The a1 is fast, accurate, and bird eye af is AWESOME! I have really enjoyed shooting the a1 and going back to the D850 has been a bit boring. With my experience with the Z6 I really didn't expect to like mirrorless as much as I do now that I have an a1. Now that I have one the D850 just doesn't bring the smile to my face like it used to. It makes me want to buy more Sony lenses so I can use it rather than the Nikon. This has really shocked me, I expected to like the a1 for action and keep the Nikon around for everything else but now I would much rather shoot the a1 even when it is a static subject. I have a few Nikon lenses I will be selling and I will be buying more Sony glass. I likely will move 100% to Sony but not in a big hurry.

A couple last things before we look at pics. The AF is awesome but not perfect but light years ahead of any camera I own or have owned. You have a lot of options in focus modes and I am still learning when is best to use which mode for different subjects and backgrounds. I will show you an example in a moment on how a hummingbird was in perfect focus, tracking on and then out of no where it couldn't see the bird that was right on the focusing point. To be fair it was my second outing with the camera and it doesn't do that often which probably has to do with me knowing how to use it but it still shouldn't happen. Also at times you can try and prefocus on say a branch and you can see the branch but the camera sure can't. I have read this is an issue all the mirrorless cameras have at times but it still sucks. There are work arounds I have found but still annoying.

The noise in the sensor I think kind of surprised me if you don't have perfect light. I have found I don't like the noise at iso 500 but seems pretty much the same at iso 3200. I need to spend more side by side as I am not a scientist but this is also at the pixel peaking level of 200%. It is however useable up to over 20K iso with topaz products. I don't find I do anymore processing to the raw files than I do with Nikon but for same iso I feel like the D850 files clean up easier in topaz but I don't have proof other than a seat of the pants feel. However the a1 files can go where the D850 and Z6 can't. I can shoot at and above 20K iso and get an image that you can't tell after topaz post processing which is pretty incredible. My opinion is evolving, the a1 files process well, good dynamic range on par with the D850, colors seem to be accurate. I don't find any of my comments about noise a negative as the end results are great.

As I stated before the custom set up with all the buttons is awesome! It has made life so much easier and able to adapt to changing situations better than any camera I have used. I wish it had buttons that light up and I think I would prefer the top LCD but I will say I haven't really missed it because I find myself making less adjustments then in the past, I can simply push a button and completely change the camera for different situations.

In close I am super impressed with the a1 and the Sony lenses I have bought so far. I went into this as open minded as a brand loyal person can be, I came out the other side so impressed that I see making a full switch to Sony over the next year very likely. Thanks for reading!


I am sure I am missing some things and welcome questions but this post is already a book now. Let's look at some pics!

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Sony a1 200-600 + 1.4x @840mm f9.0 1/800 ISO 1250

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Sony a1 200-600 + 1.4x @ 840mm f9.0 1/2500 ISO3200

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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 +1.4x @840mm f9.0 1/640 ISO 500

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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @600mm f6.3 1/640 ISO 500

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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @ 600 f6.3 1/640 ISO 320

I will post more images in this thread as 5 is the limit per post.
 
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Not an exciting picture but a demonstration of the iso performance with Topaz.
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Similar lighting as the above picture but at ISO 500. There isn't much difference post processing of ISO 10K and ISO 500.
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @600 f6.3 1/3200 ISO 1600

Here is the above image pre crop!
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Not a great photo but cropped 80%. If you haven't tried to photography an unpredictable hummingbird that isn't going to a feeder you should, it is a real kick in the pants. I was impressed the a1 could lock onto this little guy, at 20fps I got 2, he is also not much larger than my thumb.
Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @ 600 f6.3 1/3200 ISO 500

More to come below!
 
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @582mm f6.3 1/3200 ISO 800.
I shot this trying to get a take off pic. The next image was a spit of a second and even at 20fps I got one frame! Take off below.
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @582mm f6.3 1/3200 ISO 800
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The above image pre crop!
 
Was really excited to read your post, because I have an A1 on order. Also to see images similar to what I would want to take. I know it's a terribly expensive piece of equipment, but no more so than having body for action and one for stills. I'm hooked on mirrorless, but could not stomach the black out and shutter lag, so the A1 concept works for me. So, I have a Sony 200-600 for when I'm not having to hike carrying it and the Sony 100-400 for when I am hiking. I have a 1.4x converter on order. So right now I'm looking longingly at my two new lenses and waiting for a body to go on them and shooting with a Z7II. Thank you for posting. :)
 
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @600 f6.3 1/640 ISO 250

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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 w 1.4x @ 840 f9 1/400 ISO 1250
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 w 1.4x @566mm f9.0 1/250 ISO 800
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @600 f6.3 1/500 ISO 2500
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 @600 f6.3 1/640 ISO 3200
 
After spending a week in CA at my in-laws I had a work trip to FL for a day, I stayed an extra day and visited Merit Island. I found that the 200-600 really begins to shine with good light. The light even early and late in FL is a lot better than what I find in TX for really getting colors to pop.
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 + 1.4x @840mm f9 1/1000 ISO 320
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 + 1.4x @840 f9.0 1/2000 ISO 500 70% crop
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 + 1.4 @840 f9 1/640 ISO 400 50% crop
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Sony a1 Sony 200-600 + 1.4 @840mm f9.0 1/1000 ISO 320
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I was lucky I got to catch from a few miles away the Space X launch on my last day right before heading to the airport.
Sony a1 Sony 200-600 +1.4 @ 840mm f9 1/4000 ISO 400
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Now something a little different. Which one is a1 and which is D850 without cheating and looking at the file name.
Taken the same day. Which one is a higher iso?
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Sony a1 Sony 90mm Macro f5.6 1/320 ISO 640

I could keep posting samples but I think these should give you an idea of what the a1 and 200-600 and 90mm macro are capable of.

Thanks for reading!
 
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Was really excited to read your post, because I have an A1 on order. Also to see images similar to what I would want to take. I know it's a terribly expensive piece of equipment, but no more so than having body for action and one for stills. I'm hooked on mirrorless, but could not stomach the black out and shutter lag, so the A1 concept works for me. So, I have a Sony 200-600 for when I'm not having to hike carrying it and the Sony 100-400 for when I am hiking. I have a 1.4x converter on order. So right now I'm looking longingly at my two new lenses and waiting for a body to go on them and shooting with a Z7II. Thank you for posting. :)
You are going to love it!
 
I think your post makes something quite evident. Folks who argue the Z6/7ii are on par for wildlife only shoot static subjects or slow-moving large birds crossing the field of view; they clearly have never tried small erratic birds or fast birds head-on. on those subjects the Z bodies are no match yet (I tried on sanderlings and sand pipers and got quite frustrated).

if those subjects are a big part of one’s work, then A1 and R5 become quite tempting.
 
Which one is Sony a1 and which one is D850?

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There is no doubt that the Sony A1 is an impressive camera and the second image (the Sony) looks cleaner than the first. We need to acknowledge though that we’re not comparing apples and apples. We are comparing a 3 odd year old Nikon (AUD$4K) with a several month old Sony (AUD$10k). Additionally we are also comparing lenses, a 15 year old design Nikon 105 micro with the newer Sony 90 mm.
I’m not criticising either, just noting that it all needs to be viewed in proper perspective.
 
There is no doubt that the Sony A1 is an impressive camera and the second image (the Sony) looks cleaner than the first. We need to acknowledge though that we’re not comparing apples and apples. We are comparing a 3 odd year old Nikon (AUD$4K) with a several month old Sony (AUD$10k). Additionally we are also comparing lenses, a 15 year old design Nikon 105 micro with the newer Sony 90 mm.
I’m not criticising either, just noting that it all needs to be viewed in proper perspective.
Well yes and no. The D850 is considered the best DSLR sensor and the gold standard. It’s 45 MP compared to 50 MP so relatively close. The Sony 90mm isn’t a new lens but again it’s the best Sony has vs the best Nikon has. The a1 is an action camera but can also produce fine detail. Nikon has yet made a camera that can truly do both well. It’s what makes the a1 a really special camera.
PS you did pick the correct images. How did you?
 
... long story short the moment I shot the a1 my mind was blown away! ...

Totally agree with this. The a1 has been a major game-changer for me. I completely understand the reluctance to change for those who are heavily invested in another system or for whom the price of entry is too steep but for those who can afford it and can make good use of it I see little reason to throw more cash into a DSLR system. A few examples, first five with the 100-400 GM, the following posts with the 600 GM.

The first day with the camera was at my backyard birdbath.
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Bird eye AF occasionally became confused by the spots on the sparrow's wing but always snapped back to the eye
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My second day using the a1 was at my backyard "hummingbird portrait studio" using the 600 GM. The Bird Eye AF is phenomenal.
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My first day in the field with this camera was at a nearby floodplain (600 GM). These passerines are tiny, very active and prefer dense brush. Bird Eye AF was able to track the birds into the brush and lock onto the eye even when it was partly obscured.

Until now one good photo of a Bushtit in a day was an accomplishment.
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In the Sierra Nevada near Lake Tahoe, wind gusts were blowing this hummingbird's perch in all directions. Bird eye AF had no trouble locking onto the eye.
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More in the Sierra Nevada; active birds in dense brush
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Well yes and no. The D850 is considered the best DSLR sensor and the gold standard. It’s 45 MP compared to 50 MP so relatively close. The Sony 90mm isn’t a new lens but again it’s the best Sony has vs the best Nikon has. The a1 is an action camera but can also produce fine detail. Nikon has yet made a camera that can truly do both well. It’s what makes the a1 a really special camera.
PS you did pick the correct images. How did you?
Hahaha, a little thing called metadata...... actually that was the confirmation. You were so taken with the Sony I thought it had to be the better image of the two... damn we are spoiled for choice.
 
Hahaha, a little thing called metadata...... actually that was the confirmation. You were so taken with the Sony I thought it had to be the better image of the two... damn we are spoiled for choice.
Lol I said no cheating lol. Well actually I think they are pretty close. I wouldn’t be unhappy with either image. That was kind of the point, the a1 is a 30fps action tracking D850 in a mirrorless body. I love the D850 but when compared to the mirrorless a1 the DSLR shows it’s age. The funny thing is you think the a1 image is better (I agree with you) but the a1 was at a higher iso and I did no post processing for noise. I think that’s the win. I think the yellow flower shows that off even more.
 
Great writeup and shots! your experiences echo my own with the a1 - it's really a great camera, probably the best I've ever used.
Thank you Steve. What’s your thoughts on the two af challenges I’ve had? One with the bird being tracked and then it looses it and can’t find it? The other being a challenge on prefocusing on a stick? It seems if I can find two sticks crossing it nails that fast but a single stick it can at times struggle to find. Any idea why?
 
Thank you Steve. What’s your thoughts on the two af challenges I’ve had? One with the bird being tracked and then it looses it and can’t find it? The other being a challenge on prefocusing on a stick? It seems if I can find two sticks crossing it nails that fast but a single stick it can at times struggle to find. Any idea why?

Mirrorless isn general will sometimes get on a background and refuse to see the foreground - I think it's a quirk with on-sensor PDAF rather than a failing of the camera. When it does that, I quickly use manual focus to bring it back. I have my function buttons on the lens set to switch to manual focus, so it's fast.

For the sticks. if the one you're trying to focus on is horizontal, that's likely the issue. PDAF uses horizontal line sensor so like to be fed vertical lines. Turning the camera 45 degrees and trying again usually works :)
 
Right now using Z7II. When it locks on background and refuses to budge, I drop it down to something near my subject and away from a bright background and then refocus. That usually works. For me it seems to usually be triggered by something really bright in the background. I have learned not to try to hit focus button again, just drop down, or go manual.
 
The noise in the sensor I think kind of surprised me if you don't have perfect light.

I've also noticed this. To be fair, I'm still waiting for DXO to release the Photolab (my photo editor of choice) update that fully supports the a1 and until they do I can't be sure, but my experience with a1 raw files so far is that the remind me of old Canon raws -- very "brittle" to work with in post compared to Nikon.
 
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