The Z8 is getting real warm

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It's interesting that the Z8 does not offer the "Full Format" option that was recently added to the Z9. Color me surprised by that. To do a full format, you'll have to perform that on a PC or in a Z9. Given how fast formatting is "in camera", it's obviously just a "Quick Format" as would be done on your computer.
Z8 has the full format option only for slot 1 that is where the CF Express or XQD cards reside
 
Ahh, so it does...but only if you have a CFx card in Slot 1...with XQD, you don't get that option. I finally got around to putting a CFx card in it just now and low and behold, it now gives the option to full-format. Interesting decision by Nikon...
 
I don’t believe full format is necessary. It didn’t exist until lately. Does Nikon require/recommend it? For a brand new card?
 
It's interesting that the Z8 does not offer the "Full Format" option that was recently added to the Z9. Color me surprised by that. To do a full format, you'll have to perform that on a PC or in a Z9. Given how fast formatting is "in camera", it's obviously just a "Quick Format" as would be done on your computer.
According to the manual it does offer "full format"
 
A full format is different in that it checks (writes to and verifies the result) all sectors of a volume and blocks writing to any sectors that are found to be bad. A quick format only clears the files system structure and does not check the disk for errors, at least beyond that required to create a new blank directory structure.
 
I don’t believe full format is necessary. It didn’t exist until lately. Does Nikon require/recommend it? For a brand new card?
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Thinking in deeper.
I kept the Z8 on my lap, holding it with both hands. Maybe my body temperature acted like its on a sofa.
Still no reason for a almost hot card.

Until I get to the zoo, I’m going to try different things and see the results.
Joel,
I would be very interested in your results after your zoo visit. I had the same problem when I was setting up my Z8. :(
 
I don’t believe full format is necessary. It didn’t exist until lately. Does Nikon require/recommend it? For a brand new card?
as a computer guy, i would definitely start any card’s life by doing a full format in the COMPUTER, THEN doing a full format in CAMERA, and from then on i would do a quick format in camera EACH time i put the card back in the camera.
 
as a computer guy, i would definitely start any card’s life by doing a full format in the COMPUTER, THEN doing a full format in CAMERA, and from then on i would do a quick format in camera EACH time i put the card back in the camera.
Possible to elaborate the reasons behind? I love to learn. Could make another thread
 
It's interesting that the Z8 does not offer the "Full Format" option that was recently added to the Z9. Color me surprised by that. To do a full format, you'll have to perform that on a PC or in a Z9. Given how fast formatting is "in camera", it's obviously just a "Quick Format" as would be done on your computer.
Who says it doesn't? The option is there.
 
Finally got my Z8. I spent over an hour sitting in an air conditioned room just setting up from scratch. The body got real warm - uncomfortable. I pulled the new Delkin Black I got on B&H sale, it was even hotter! Just setting up, no shooting. This is weird.
Did mine yesterday as well…I had the Z9 on as well to match those settings. They never went into Standby and I was over an hour sitting at the island countertop in the A/C…and did notice any significant warming on either. Prograde card in the Z8, Delkin black in the Z9…and I had fully charged the battery in the body the day before. Full formatted the card in the camera…and I rarely format, mostly I just delete all instead and format every 2 months or so. And like BillW…I changed a couple settings on my Z9 while I was looking at every setting based on the books, videos, and experience with the Z9.
 
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I don’t have a tool to take reading of the temperature. The camera doesn’t provide it. The word “warm” is very subjective. I’m planning a hop over to a zoo and see how it behaves.
I have one of those ray gun infrared thermometers for cooking…that would work but I agree…warm is subjective and as I said in the other reply mine didn’t.
 
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I went to the park this morning, got there at 6:30 and left at 8:45. The park was really active, Spoonbills, Avocets, Skimmers, Black-necked Stilts and the usual Egrets and Herons. I took 1500 photos over 2hours and 15min or thereabouts. The Z8 was not even warm and I came home with 48% left on the battery. Seems to me that battery usage is pretty darn good and like I said heat was a non-issue. Just wanted to let you know.
 
Eric, I'd like to see some data on that statement. In all my years of using digital cameras, I've never worried about whether I format a card on my computer or in a camera. And I've never had an issue with a corrupt format that wasn't due to a faulty card...and that's been extremely rare. Which is not to say one shouldn't do it if you like, but I think using the word "definitely" without substantial proof is over the top. I'd have no issue with could, might...because anything is possible, right?

All the latest cameras use the exFAT format for cards of the size we use. It's an industry standard format that must be written to accordingly to be read by a device expecting to read the exFAT format. Image files are all stored in the DCIM folder and cameras add their subdirectory structure to it, if different than what is already there. If there is no DCIM folder, the camera will create one when you first use the card, no matter what device it was formatted in...as long as it's in an exFAT format.

Typically, cameras also add individual "housekeeping" files in the root directory. One of my older XQD cards that I haven't formatted in a long while has directories for D850, D500, Z9 and now Z8. I can swap cards between my Z8 and Z9 and they'll happily add the unique subdirectory names I use for the different cameras.

Of course you can't go using cards formatted in NFS or other formats...has to be exFAT.

Cheers!
I discarded the data. I ran across this issue when testing memory cards on my Z6, Z7ii, and D850. One of the cameras had far worse performance than expected - a write speed of about 40% of what it should have gotten. And then I realized that I had not formatted the card prior to running the test. I formatted the card in the camera and re-ran the test and it performed as expected. We're talking a test of a 30 second burst with frames counted for each second. To be clear - it did use the card and images were fine - just not at normal performance levels. In a sustained burst, it had longer gaps than normal with a couple of gaps of 2-3 seconds. You would only encounter this AFTER you filled the buffer.

Apparently there are differences in the way data is written to a drive that may vary by camera. Formatting in the camera eliminates those issues. In a similar vein, Delkin advises in their blog that you should format in the camera - not in your computer. If you format in your computer, you should still format in the camera.
 
It's interesting that the Z8 does not offer the "Full Format" option that was recently added to the Z9. Color me surprised by that. To do a full format, you'll have to perform that on a PC or in a Z9. Given how fast formatting is "in camera", it's obviously just a "Quick Format" as would be done on your computer.
My Z8 menu offers options for quick and full format.
 
as a computer guy, i would definitely start any card’s life by doing a full format in the COMPUTER, THEN doing a full format in CAMERA, and from then on i would do a quick format in camera EACH time i put the card back in the camera.
Possible to elaborate the reasons behind? I love to learn. Could make another thread

Since we don't know how the camera implements a "full format" but we do know that the computer's full format touches every part of the card, we want to make sure that every part of the card has been "touched" and thus verified to be functional.

That said, we want to ensure the card is formatted in the way the camera wants for optimal performance and comparability. Thus the full format _in camera_ makes sure that the card is laid out in for maximum performance and compatibility from that camera's perspective and the in camera full format should do that.

The quick format should reset the directory listing of the card, and do the way the camera thinks best. If there is a funky file on there somehow this will remove it quickly and get you back to a pristine state. I always want my card to be set to a pristine state when I insert it into the camera for the minimal possibility of any sort of problem.
 
Since we don't know how the camera implements a "full format" but we do know that the computer's full format touches every part of the card, we want to make sure that every part of the card has been "touched" and thus verified to be functional.

That said, we want to ensure the card is formatted in the way the camera wants for optimal performance and comparability. Thus the full format _in camera_ makes sure that the card is laid out in for maximum performance and compatibility from that camera's perspective and the in camera full format should do that.

The quick format should reset the directory listing of the card, and do the way the camera thinks best. If there is a funky file on there somehow this will remove it quickly and get you back to a pristine state. I always want my card to be set to a pristine state when I insert it into the camera for the minimal possibility of any sort of problem.
Shouldn’t Delkin do that full format touching all cells before packaging?
 
Mine does.
What card are you using?
My Z8 and Z9 offer the full format option on CFe - but not on XQD or - on the Z8 SD cards.
As noted in another reply, I didn't discover that it allowed a full-format of CFe but not XQD until this morning as I'd not tried to format a CFe card in it until this morning when someone mentioned that their Z8 showed that option. Very odd that Nikon doesn't allow full-format on SD or XQD. Could be due to the slower write rates on those cards compared to many of the CFe's. Format speed is directly tied to the read/write rate to the card when doing a full-format. Try doing a full-format of 1 or 2TB CFe card on a slow USB port! :)
 
Set mine up over the weekend and had no temperature issues at all. I also was there for at least a couple of hours with the display on almost all the time. I had other non camera related issues, operator error, and no problems.
 
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