Z8 Battery charging via USB Power delivery.

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la551ve3 said:
Has anyone had any success with this? Besides the Nikon-supplied USB cable, I have tried multiple (6+) cables and AC Adapters and all but one fail. The only combination that works is my iPad 12 charger/cable combination. The Nikon manual says the supplied cable doesn't work but for a mere $99.43 (CAN) Nikon will send me one that will. Do I really need to go to Apple and get a cable/adapter to be able to charge the Z8 battery via the USB Power delivery?
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I have a

ACASIS Swappable High-Speed SSD Storage & 10-In-1 Hub, Docking Station, NVMe SSD Enclosure, CM073​

you buy it with the pd power adaptor and the hub works and as long as the cable is charge and data then it works. it works on my z8 with the charger and a usb c that comes with it. all my other cords can work off the hub. I built this for travel with a mini fan for the reader and the hub. I think the focus here is that the power sourse has a usbc and its pd. The pd power source is less than fifteen can$. GAN CHARGER MODEL PE-GAN65WD

USB-Power Delivery (PD) is a fast-charging technology based on the USB-C standard. Certain Apple® and Android smartphones/tablets and various laptop brands support the technology, which provides much higher performance than standard charging methods.
Is PD the same as USB-C?


The key difference between USB Type-C and USB-PD is that USB Type-C is a reversible USB connector that has a small form factor, while USB-PD is a power delivery protocol that allows for up to 100W power delivery.

its all about the power delivery.
 
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PKW said:
Seems silly, but not all cables can deliver power and transfer data efficiently and/or equally. For instance, the OEM cable that came with my M1 MB Air charges my laptop just fine, but it’s slow compared to other cables I own when copying RAW files from a media card to external SSD’s connected to the laptop for backup purposes.
There are cables that can do both. Go to Amazon and search “PD power cables”. You’ll find dozens of USB C cables that can deliver 60 or 100 watts of power (you’ll need a charger that can support that much power though) and transfer data up to 10 gbps speeds. Most are not that expensive and they all should work with the Z9/8 for battery recharging and data transfer purposes.
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As oils ain’t oils, neither are cables.
 
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PKW said:
Seems silly, but not all cables can deliver power and transfer data efficiently and/or equally. For instance, the OEM cable that came with my M1 MB Air charges my laptop just fine, but it’s slow compared to other cables I own when copying RAW files from a media card to external SSD’s connected to the laptop for backup purposes.
There are cables that can do both. Go to Amazon and search “PD power cables”. You’ll find dozens of USB C cables that can deliver 60 or 100 watts of power (you’ll need a charger that can support that much power though) and transfer data up to 10 gbps speeds. Most are not that expensive and they all should work with the Z9/8 for battery recharging and data transfer purposes.
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I've found with different cable types that some cables are charging cables only and will not transmit data at all. Now if I specifiacally want a data cable I'll search for a data cable. Also not all power cables are equal.
 
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The included Nikon UC-E24 cable will NOT charge my Z8. For an overpriced amount of $29.95 this is really a rip off. I have another cable that works, not sure of the brand as I got it a while ago. It is a USB-c to USB-c cable. It was not an expensive cable. All know is I tested it with my Lenovo laptop. I can plug this cable into the USB-C port on my PC or into USB-A port (using a USB-c to USB-A adapter) and it charges the battery. So, it does not appear that a USB-C to A or A to C adapter will mess up charging. I also have a basic Samsung charger, the 5V 2.0 A little charger that came with my Samsung S22 phone. It is probably slower, but it charges the Z8 just fine. as long as I use that (good) cable. I tested 4-5 of the other USB-c cables that I already had and none of them worked, even the ones that were supposed to be high speed.
 
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Joe R said:
The included Nikon UC-E24 cable will NOT charge my Z8. For an overpriced amount of $29.95 this is really a rip off. I have another cable that works, not sure of the brand as I got it a while ago. It is a USB-c to USB-c cable. It was not an expensive cable. All know is I tested it with my Lenovo laptop. I can plug this cable into the USB-C port on my PC or into USB-A port (using a USB-c to USB-A adapter) and it charges the battery. So, it does not appear that a USB-C to A or A to C adapter will mess up charging. I also have a basic Samsung charger, the 5V 2.0 A little charger that came with my Samsung S22 phone. It is probably slower, but it charges the Z8 just fine. as long as I use that (good) cable. I tested 4-5 of the other USB-c cables that I already had and none of them worked, even the ones that were supposed to be high speed.
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I've never seen a situation where a Z9 or Z8 could be charged with any combination of cables/adapters from a USB-A port since there is, to my knowledge, no such thing as a USB-A port that conforms to PD specifications and therefore the camera will not initiate charging or powered operation from the USB-C charging port. The cable that Nikon supplies is for data communication, not charging. With non-PD charging sources, the green indicator light will flash twice and the go out, but the orange charging indicator never illuminates.

All of the various USB-C to USB-C cables I have will work for charging, even the cheap ones that were supplied with some random device, but many of those only support lower data rates.
 
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MotoPixel said:
I've never seen a situation where a Z9 or Z8 could be charged with any combination of cables/adapters from a USB-A port since there is, to my knowledge, no such thing as a USB-A port that conforms to PD specifications and therefore the camera will not initiate charging or powered operation from the USB-C charging port. The cable that Nikon supplies is for data communication, not charging. With non-PD charging sources, the green indicator light will flash twice and the go out, but the orange charging indicator never illuminates.

All of the various USB-C to USB-C cables I have will work for charging, even the cheap ones that were supplied with some random device, but many of those only support lower data rates.
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I just double checked my info (above). Using the one (1) good PD cable that I found I had. It is a USB-C to USB-C. cable, no markings on it. Using a USB-C to USB-A adapter, I plugged it into the USB-A port of my laptop. After 5 min, my battery in the Z8 went from 91% to 95%. I do not know what the cable is, it has no markings on it, but the adapter is a cheap one I got on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BWJ6C6JT/?tag=backcogaller-20 . I think you just got lucky with all your USB-C to USB-C cables working . Most of mine, even if supposedly high speed to NOT work. Of course, when I got them ( a while ago) I did not know I should get a PD cable. Didn't even know there was such a thing, although I did know that some cables were just for power & not data. I did not know there were different rated power cables.
 
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you will need a USB C-C cable that supports PD, some PD wall charger/power band may provide a cable with it. Nothing fancy, a CAD$9 cable will do the job. DONT go to apple, their charger may not be PD compatible, Amazon is a better place
 
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Joe R said:
I just double checked my info (above). Using the one (1) good PD cable that I found I had. It is a USB-C to USB-C. cable, no markings on it. Using a USB-C to USB-A adapter, I plugged it into the USB-A port of my laptop. After 5 min, my battery in the Z8 went from 91% to 95%. I do not know what the cable is, it has no markings on it, but the adapter is a cheap one I got on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BWJ6C6JT/?tag=backcogaller-20 . I think you just got lucky with all your USB-C to USB-C cables working . Most of mine, even if supposedly high speed to NOT work. Of course, when I got them ( a while ago) I did not know I should get a PD cable. Didn't even know there was such a thing, although I did know that some cables were just for power & not data. I did not know there were different rated power cables.
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Here’s some information which you might find useful: https://www.testandmeasurementtips.com/whats-new-in-usb-power-delivery-3-0-faq/

Most USB (A or C) cables listed on Amazon will include power delivery characteristics. I don’t endorse single brands and since my cables are used for “everything” from charging laptops to drones, I tend to use higher power USB C (>100 w) ones such as this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09ZL4N9DW/?tag=backcogaller-20
 
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ajrmd said:
Here’s some information which you might find useful: https://www.testandmeasurementtips.com/whats-new-in-usb-power-delivery-3-0-faq/

Most USB (A or C) cables listed on Amazon will include power delivery characteristics. I don’t endorse single brands and since my cables are used for “everything” from charging laptops to drones, I tend to use higher power USB C (>100 w) ones such as this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09ZL4N9DW/?tag=backcogaller-20
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Good information. Thanks for the reply.
 
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