Z9 ship date

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lwan

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Been told by my dealer that my 16/12/2021 order is 15th-ish in the list, and i thought it's not that bad!
 

sh1209

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I just called B&H as well as the other vendor I have a preorder with to get some information. They are both telling me there’s no expected date at this point to receive any Z9 cameras. I’m going to wait until February and most likely cancel my preorders at that point. The supply chain shortage and all that really don’t cut it at this point. There’s zero excuse for not communicating with your vendors or customers!
 
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Wes Peterson

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I just called B&H as well as the other vendor I have a preorder with to get some information. They are both telling me there’s no expected date at this point to receive any Z9 cameras. I’m going to wait until February and most likely cancel my preorders at that point. The supply chain shortage and all that really don’t cut it at this point. There’s zero excuse for not communicating with your vendors or customers!
Im calling BS on what your venders are saying. I've already gotten my Z9 and I'm still getting emails from Nikon about Z9 shipments going out. ALL NPS orders placed up to Jan 3rd will be FILLED next week. You ordered from B&H.... along with thousands of other people. Turns out that was a huge mistake.
 

Ken Miracle

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I have only talked to my "local" Idaho store ... 500 miles and part the road has been closed frequently the last 12 weeks. They have not filled all their NPS orders and have just been told to expect to get those in the next two weeks.

I have been getting parts and pieces as I can. I received the FTZ adaptor from B&H and Delkin Black cards from 2 places. I have a z1.4 TC on Fed Ex, a spare battery and charger that did not come up as backordered when I placed my on line order yesterday and a Z9 and Z100-400 on backorder from the same location. Overall pretty committed now ... for better or worse :)
 

sh1209

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Im calling BS on what your venders are saying. I've already gotten my Z9 and I'm still getting emails from Nikon about Z9 shipments going out. ALL NPS orders placed up to Jan 3rd will be FILLED next week. You ordered from B&H.... along with thousands of other people. Turns out that was a huge mistake.
Not sure what reason they would have to mislead me. Perhaps they don't know what they're talking about but it certainly seems odd they're telling me essentially the same thing. Are you NPS?
 

John Navitsky

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Not sure what reason they would have to mislead me. Perhaps they don't know what they're talking about but it certainly seems odd they're telling me essentially the same thing. Are you NPS?
IN GENERAL, talking to a random customer service rep is more likely than not to get you a random answer. first, the person has to actually know what is going on, and most likely they don't. then, they have to understand how what is going on applies to _you_. then they have to care enough to spend the time to figure that out and communicate it. on top of that, there are company policies, that may not be aligned with getting you the information you wish which may lead them to give you the (generic) "answer of the day"
 

GrandNagus50

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When the 500mm PF lens came out a few years ago, B&H was flooded with many more orders than any other vendor, and so getting the lens from them took longer for most buyers than the alternatives. Out of this experience, "go through a smaller, local dealer" sort of became the new conventional wisdom. I went through B & C Camera in Las Vegas and got a lens reasonably soon. I think the same thing has happened this time around. B & H suffers in this narrow sense from its popularity. They must get so very many orders, way more than the allotments from Nikon will satisfy.

This said, I think there is a certain randomness and chance aspect to exactly when people get their orders filled. Some people who are non-NPS are getting their cameras from this or that dealer. I ordered from Precision Camera in Austin in early July, and I did not get a camera from their first (very small) shipment. So it goes. Let's face it: some stores will tend to get the cameras to their regular, local customers or even to their friends first. This is the real world, with its tendency towards various minor forms of 'corruption'.

Precision told me that the pattern is that they get a very small initial shipment and then a few weeks later, a bigger one. So I am sort of expecting that my camera will be a part of this bigger shipment, probably mid-to-late January. If not, I confess I will be disappointed, but really, if I have to wait longer than that, fine. I have enough camera gear already and all good things are worth waiting for. Besides, the sooner I get the camera the sooner I have to pay for it, ack.
 

sh1209

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When the 500mm PF lens came out a few years ago, B&H was flooded with many more orders than any other vendor, and so getting the lens from them took longer for most buyers than the alternatives. Out of this experience, "go through a smaller, local dealer" sort of became the new conventional wisdom. I went through B & C Camera in Las Vegas and got a lens reasonably soon. I think the same thing has happened this time around. B & H suffers in this narrow sense from its popularity. They must get so very many orders, way more than the allotments from Nikon will satisfy.

This said, I think there is a certain randomness and chance aspect to exactly when people get their orders filled. Some people who are non-NPS are getting their cameras from this or that dealer. I ordered from Precision Camera in Austin in early July, and I did not get a camera from their first (very small) shipment. So it goes. Let's face it: some stores will tend to get the cameras to their regular, local customers or even to their friends first. This is the real world, with its tendency towards various minor forms of 'corruption'.

Precision told me that the pattern is that they get a very small initial shipment and then a few weeks later, a bigger one. So I am sort of expecting that my camera will be a part of this bigger shipment, probably mid-to-late January. If not, I confess I will be disappointed, but really, if I have to wait longer than that, fine. I have enough camera gear already and all good things are worth waiting for. Besides, the sooner I get the camera the sooner I have to pay for it, ack.
I have one of my preorders at a small local owned shop as well. I am unofficially on a third waiting list at another small shop. I figured with 3 I'd at least increase my odds of getting one lol. I still have my z6ii and z7ii so I'm not without a camera by any means. I just absolutely hate lack of communication, no matter what the situation is. Just who I am I suppose.
 

abc123brian

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Not sure what reason they would have to mislead me. Perhaps they don't know what they're talking about but it certainly seems odd they're telling me essentially the same thing. Are you NPS?
Like mentioned by others, you tend to get different answers from different people. Likely most honest answer is the one you received. Many were told by B&H customer service they would receive their cameras right away. Obviously they were more disappointed when it never showed up. When I placed my original order locally over the phone, I was told I was in the first 10 orders but they didn’t provide the exact position. I later visited the camera shop hoping they had a Delkin Black CFE B in stock. They did not, but I asked the lady who was helping me about my Z9 order and she told me she didn’t have a way to tell what my position was and she didn’t have any idea about ordering any lenses. Obviously not the best experience. I called a few weeks later on the 105mm MC and talked to a different associate. He was very helpful regarding the lens as well as without any issues told me my position on the list. Talking directly to a Nikon rep, I was provided information on the Z9 rollout that so far matches what we have seen. There are a lot of preorders and some components are in short supply so I suggest being patient; even though Nikon apparently has a history of not meeting demand. If you are in a reasonable position on the list locally (non NPS), you’ll probably have the camera in March at the latest.

Regarding current shortages, see the below pic. I’m not sure when I will be able to buy frozen French Fries.

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Kjellis

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I talked to my lokal camera store here in Norway regarding my preorder of the Z9 a couple of days ago. They haven’t got any cameras yet, but they are expecting a shipment with a few cameras at the end of this month. After that they have been told they would get about one camera per month going forward, they have over 120 preorders and feels the situation is like a nightmare. I don’t know where I am on the list, but I reckon I have to wait a long time before I get mine, even though I ordered the 28th of october as soon as they opened up for preorders… I don’t think there have been a shipment of Z9’s to my country yet…
 

sh1209

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Like mentioned by others, you tend to get different answers from different people. Likely most honest answer is the one you received. Many were told by B&H customer service they would receive their cameras right away. Obviously they were more disappointed when it never showed up. When I placed my original order locally over the phone, I was told I was in the first 10 orders but they didn’t provide the exact position. I later visited the camera shop hoping they had a Delkin Black CFE B in stock. They did not, but I asked the lady who was helping me about my Z9 order and she told me she didn’t have a way to tell what my position was and she didn’t have any idea about ordering any lenses. Obviously not the best experience. I called a few weeks later on the 105mm MC and talked to a different associate. He was very helpful regarding the lens as well as without any issues told me my position on the list. Talking directly to a Nikon rep, I was provided information on the Z9 rollout that so far matches what we have seen. There are a lot of preorders and some components are in short supply so I suggest being patient; even though Nikon apparently has a history of not meeting demand. If you are in a reasonable position on the list locally (non NPS), you’ll probably have the camera in March at the latest.

Regarding current shortages, see the below pic. I’m not sure when I will be able to buy frozen French Fries.

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I agree with everything you said but Nikon still should directly communicate delays, dates etc. I’m sure most of not all of us have products registered with Nikon and I’m constantly getting promotion emails from them. How about sending information about product delays and such. Not asking much, at least in my opinion.
 

Wes Peterson

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Not sure what reason they would have to mislead me. Perhaps they don't know what they're talking about but it certainly seems odd they're telling me essentially the same thing. Are you NPS?
In the case of talking to BH, well they already caught hell for giving out the wrong ship date so it wouldnt at all surprise me if they were told by supervisors to say they dont know. As for your local shop.... try offering the guy a $100 bill to see if you can move to the front of the line, if they say yes you know why they arent telling you anything. Yes I'm NPS but as I said I already got my Z9 and I'm still being kept in the loop regarding shipments. I find it hard to believe your venders didnt get the same emails.
 

sh1209

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In the case of talking to BH, well they already caught hell for giving out the wrong ship date so it wouldnt at all surprise me if they were told by supervisors to say they dont know. As for your local shop.... try offering the guy a $100 bill to see if you can move to the front of the line, if they say yes you know why they arent telling you anything. Yes I'm NPS but as I said I already got my Z9 and I'm still being kept in the loop regarding shipments. I find it hard to believe your venders didnt get the same emails.
I’m glad you got yours and hopefully some of the rest of us will get them soon. I understand you are a NPS but on the same hand I think it’s really crappy the Nikon don’t communicate with us the way they do with NPS members. My money is just the same as an NPS members money but perhaps I’m looking at it all wrong.
 

RoyC

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In the case of talking to BH, well they already caught hell for giving out the wrong ship date so it wouldnt at all surprise me if they were told by supervisors to say they dont know. As for your local shop.... try offering the guy a $100 bill to see if you can move to the front of the line, if they say yes you know why they arent telling you anything. Yes I'm NPS but as I said I already got my Z9 and I'm still being kept in the loop regarding shipments. I find it hard to believe your venders didnt get the same emails.
Of course all retailers, especially those with NPS orders coming, got the same email.
If you do not want some vague inaccurate and most likely misleading answer, do not talk to customer service.
 

John Navitsky

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I think it’s really crappy the Nikon don’t communicate with us the way they do with NPS members. My money is just the same as an NPS members money but perhaps I’m looking at it all wrong.
the difference is that you (and i) don't have any direct relationship with nikon. for us non nps folks, our relationship is with the dealer we ordered from. the dealer has a relationship with nikon. nikon probably tells the dealer *something*, but it's up to the dealer to decide if and what they communicate to us.
 

Wes Peterson

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I’m glad you got yours and hopefully some of the rest of us will get them soon. I understand you are a NPS but on the same hand I think it’s really crappy the Nikon don’t communicate with us the way they do with NPS members. My money is just the same as an NPS members money but perhaps I’m looking at it all wrong.
If you didnt order through Nikon they couldnt tell you anything if they wanted to. The truth is Nikon is cranking out an incredible number of Z9s if the reports are right. Far more than Canon is able to put out of the R3. I think you will get your Z9 sooner than you think. After NPS is delivered next week retail will be next.
 

Ken Miracle

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Like mentioned by others, you tend to get different answers from different people. Likely most honest answer is the one you received. Many were told by B&H customer service they would receive their cameras right away. Obviously they were more disappointed when it never showed up. When I placed my original order locally over the phone, I was told I was in the first 10 orders but they didn’t provide the exact position. I later visited the camera shop hoping they had a Delkin Black CFE B in stock. They did not, but I asked the lady who was helping me about my Z9 order and she told me she didn’t have a way to tell what my position was and she didn’t have any idea about ordering any lenses. Obviously not the best experience. I called a few weeks later on the 105mm MC and talked to a different associate. He was very helpful regarding the lens as well as without any issues told me my position on the list. Talking directly to a Nikon rep, I was provided information on the Z9 rollout that so far matches what we have seen. There are a lot of preorders and some components are in short supply so I suggest being patient; even though Nikon apparently has a history of not meeting demand. If you are in a reasonable position on the list locally (non NPS), you’ll probably have the camera in March at the latest.

Regarding current shortages, see the below pic. I’m not sure when I will be able to buy frozen French Fries.

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That is frequently the way we feel about the good Idaho bakers here in Idaho since most get shipped out of state. Luckily I still have friends who grow taters ... but that means a trip to the field when they are digging ... but it also means hand selected free bakers ... wait a minute free ... how much gas did I use ... at least might find a bird photo op along the way :) Yup no free lunch or potato :)
 

sh1209

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If you didnt order through Nikon they couldnt tell you anything if they wanted to. The truth is Nikon is cranking out an incredible number of Z9s if the reports are right. Far more than Canon is able to put out of the R3. I think you will get your Z9 sooner than you think. After NPS is delivered next week retail will be next.
Hopefully you are correct and I’ll admit wholeheartedly, Patience is not one of my strong points lol.
 

sh1209

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Its not one of my strong points either lol
At least I have a battery, two cards and the ftzii adapter. Now just need the yellow box to arrive. I'm sorta regretting buying the version 2 adapter because I already had to ftz adapters. I'm not sure it would hinder me much but I'll check it out once the camera arrives.
 

abc123brian

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At least I have a battery, two cards and the ftzii adapter. Now just need the yellow box to arrive. I'm sorta regretting buying the version 2 adapter because I already had to ftz adapters. I'm not sure it would hinder me much but I'll check it out once the camera arrives.
Ive gotten better with being patient during the last 5 years. I really want my Z9 now and I know it would be fun to shoot with. I would also like to know when it will arrive because I might consider buying another lens while I wait if it will be a long time out. Based on the unofficial information I received, I expect to have mine either this month or next, but of course anything can happen between now and then. For now, I‘m using the FTZii on my Z7ii along with the new cards I ordered. I wish I could at least charge the spare Z9 battery I bought for when I get the call that I can pick up my Z9, but I don’t have a charger so I’ll have to wait for the battery to charge too.

The camera store could sell your camera to someone else who has purchased more items from them or their cousin to list on eBay. It’s not right, but they could. Nikon has no idea what the camera store is going to do or who they sell it to when they ship cameras out, outside of NPS, so they can’t tell you when you will receive it.
 
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