Anyone regretted selling a Z9 for a Z8?

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I am weighing the pros and cons. If I get a Z 8 I lose the much larger battery capacity. The Z 8 is much lighter and smaller, the main appeal.

So I'd really like to know if anyone had regrets making the change.
 
You have smaller and lighter already and doing some fine work with it ... Zf to the rescue! ;):p
I knowledgeable camera store person pointed out that the Zf might not be great in a dusty environment like Africa. He said it was more of an urban camera which it feels like.
 
I actually thought you were serious. I had been thinking of it until the camera guy suggested it might not be a good idea. I played with the Z6iii but I really don't like the ergonomics. Then I played with the Z 8 and that fit my hand like a glove.
 
I am weighing the pros and cons. If I get a Z 8 I lose the much larger battery capacity. The Z 8 is much lighter and smaller, the main appeal.

So I'd really like to know if anyone had regrets making the change.
Have you held or used either the Z8 or the Z9 ? For me my D300, D500, D810, D850 I had purchased the vertical grips, D4. The feel of those bodies and the benefits when shooting vertical and the larger battery you could shoot all day. I realize that not everyone likes the extra weight and larger size. I did consider the Z8 but by the time you add the cost of the grip and the battery and charger plus at the time the Z9 was on sale, it just didn’t make sense. For me the Z9 just felt right and works, so happy and pleased I just recently purchased a second Z9.
 
Btw, I apologize for my inappropriate and misplaced humor.

Hearing that the Z8 fits you like a glove will probably pay grande dividends for long hours behind the controls; sounds like a great marriage in the making.
 
I knowledgeable camera store person pointed out that the Zf might not be great in a dusty environment like Africa. He said it was more of an urban camera which it feels like.
What would make the Zf any worse than the Z6iii? Both look weather sealed to the same extent on the diagrams.

I've used mine all over out west in dusty conditions and in Peru and it was fine. No problems in rain either.
 
What would make the Zf any worse than the Z6iii? Both look weather sealed to the same extent on the diagrams.

I've used mine all over out west in dusty conditions and in Peru and it was fine. No problems in rain either.
I’ve heard a few sources state the Zf was just as weather sealed as the others.
 
I am weighing the pros and cons. If I get a Z 8 I lose the much larger battery capacity. The Z 8 is much lighter and smaller, the main appeal.

So I'd really like to know if anyone had regrets making the change.
I have one of each and definitely choose the Z8 in most of my day to day shooting over the Z9. Solely because of the weight. On trips I take both and use them depending on the lens on each. And put the lenses on depending on what I am shooting. Bottom line I don't think you would regret it. But at this point I will stick with one of each.
 
Btw, I apologize for my inappropriate and misplaced humor.

Hearing that the Z8 fits you like a glove will probably pay grande dividends for long hours behind the controls; sounds like a great marriage in the making.
No need to apologize, and your comment is not far-off either. I own 2x ZF's, and both have been surviving really well in Asian heat and humidity. If it can live through high heat and humidity in Ho-chi Min /Vietnam, it can survive Africa. It's a great body, far more robust and substantial than product-photos on the Interwebz would indicate. If used with a weather- sealed lens, it makes for a very decent setup. Just IMHO.
 
I have one of each and I much prefer the size and weight of the Z8 over the Z9. I had thought about selling the Z9 to replace with a second Z8 but it would have meant trading and paying additional and I didn’t think that was worthwhile decision for me. Having both and shooting both regularly I wouldn’t have a problem with only having Z8s instead.
 
I started with a Z8, traded up to a Z9 and I’m now (after a year) changing back to a Z8. I hike a lot with an 800pf or 600pf and also kayak a lot. The bigger battery is nice in the Z9 but the Z8 battery is perfectly fine (see Steve’s battery video) and I can survive a battery change if and when needed. I can also get by with one less function button. The Z8 feels great in my hand. The size and weight savings are real pluses, without any sacrifices (for me).
 
I appreciate all the ideas and suggestions, especially that the Zf would be fine in dusty conditions. If I took the Zf to Africa, I'd need to get the Small Rig grip for it to make it easier with my Z70-200. I guess the ideal would be to figure out financially how to keep my Z9 and get a Z8.
 
I appreciate all the ideas and suggestions, especially that the Zf would be fine in dusty conditions. If I took the Zf to Africa, I'd need to get the Small Rig grip for it to make it easier with my Z70-200. I guess the ideal would be to figure out financially how to keep my Z9 and get a Z8.
Yep, the grip would be required for the 70-200 f/2.8. Possible to shoot without, but significantly more comfortable with it, using larger lenses.

Definitely though, the Z8/Z9 combo would be ideal for wildlife stuff as main/backup.
 
I appreciate all the ideas and suggestions, especially that the Zf would be fine in dusty conditions. If I took the Zf to Africa, I'd need to get the Small Rig grip for it to make it easier with my Z70-200. I guess the ideal would be to figure out financially how to keep my Z9 and get a Z8.
I think the Zf is a capable backup option but obviously differs quite a bit from an ergonomic and controls standpoint with far less customizable buttons. If you end up going this way, my recommendation is to put the iso dial on C and shutter dial on 1/3 stop and control the camera with the command dials to keep the operation as similar to your Z9 as possible. Also, practice with using the touch screen as a trackpad for moving focus points ahead of time or d-pad so you’re used to it so you don’t end up missing shots trying to figure it out when the action starts. The Zf is way more capable than the older Z6ii and just takes a little getting used to for using as an action camera.

Also, Nikon has offered the Z8 for less than $3000 refurbished so that may be an option too.
 
I think the Zf is a capable backup option but obviously differs quite a bit from an ergonomic and controls standpoint with far less customizable buttons. If you end up going this way, my recommendation is to put the iso dial on C and shutter dial on 1/3 stop and control the camera with the command dials to keep the operation as similar to your Z9 as possible.
This is just a PSA for anyone who has the Zf and doesn’t know or is looking at the ISO setup on it. If you like to shoot manual and auto ISO, you set the Zf to Auto in the menus and lowest ISO (200) and then when you’re in M the ISO wheel is now the max ISO range setting. The camera will always select the lowest ISO possible. This is how it works in M/S modes, A/P don’t work the same so you need to switch to C and bind the record button to ISO and you can use that to switch auto on/off and adjust auto range like a normal Nikon DSLR if you use those modes. I use mine nearly exclusively in M with auto ISO.

You’ll see LOTS of reviews that say the camera requires menu diving every time to change ISO but that’s simply because they spent no time learning how the camera works. Once it’s understood it’s actually far more efficient than Fujis A settup to switch modes between PASM functions. Fuji requires a lot of dial spinning in comparison. I’ve owned both.

The camera is fast to operate with the dials once you practice with it and the lack of second FN button is less flexible but not that big of a deal once you get it setup how you like. AF works just like the Z8 but it’s not as accurate to track with the mechanical shutter and slower sensor readout, it’s actually more accurate in electronic shutter, probably because the sensor isn’t momentarily blocked and that’s how I use mine in any non rolling shutter sensitive situation.
 
I had both at the same time. The Z9's large battery was nice but I ended up using the lighter/smaller Z8 even with my long lenses, on a tripod or when shooting from the car. So I sold the Z9. All I do is video and I hope Nikon updates the Z8 with the new Z9 video-centric firmware, but I have no plans to replace the Z9 even if Nikon doesn't update the Z8. For me, the Z8 is the more versatile and useful camera and carrying around an extra battery or two in the pocket is no big deal.
 
I have both and if were forced to give up one it would be the Z8. There's enough differences, that I always grab the Z9 first. I typically use the Z8 for macro or landscape, or when I need to travel light. But for the Z9, I like having two of the same card slots, longer battery life, the vertical grip, slight faster startup, additional function button, and better balance with larger lenses. But if my Z9 died, I'd certainly still be able to do everything I want with the Z8.
 
I am weighing the pros and cons. If I get a Z 8 I lose the much larger battery capacity. The Z 8 is much lighter and smaller, the main appeal.

So I'd really like to know if anyone had regrets making the change.
I bought the Z9 right when it first came out. I liked the camera, but disliked the size and weight of it. When the Z8 came out I bought one right away and loved it, great camera. Then I bought a second one and have been shooting with the Z8 since then. I sold the Z9 to a friend who wanted a second Z9 as a back up. If you don't mind the weight and have really large hands the Z9 is a great camera for you, but if you'd like something a little lighter and easier to handle then the Z8 might be the right choice. I love my Z8s and my 600PF, great combo. You could try renting one first to see if the camera will work for you.
 
This is just a PSA for anyone who has the Zf and doesn’t know or is looking at the ISO setup on it. If you like to shoot manual and auto ISO, you set the Zf to Auto in the menus and lowest ISO (200) and then when you’re in M the ISO wheel is now the max ISO range setting. The camera will always select the lowest ISO possible. This is how it works in M/S modes, A/P don’t work the same so you need to switch to C and bind the record button to ISO and you can use that to switch auto on/off and adjust auto range like a normal Nikon DSLR if you use those modes. I use mine nearly exclusively in M with auto ISO.

You’ll see LOTS of reviews that say the camera requires menu diving every time to change ISO but that’s simply because they spent no time learning how the camera works. Once it’s understood it’s actually far more efficient than Fujis A settup to switch modes between PASM functions. Fuji requires a lot of dial spinning in comparison. I’ve owned both.

The camera is fast to operate with the dials once you practice with it and the lack of second FN button is less flexible but not that big of a deal once you get it setup how you like. AF works just like the Z8 but it’s not as accurate to track with the mechanical shutter and slower sensor readout, it’s actually more accurate in electronic shutter, probably because the sensor isn’t momentarily blocked and that’s how I use mine in any non rolling shutter sensitive situation.
I think there is a lot of confusion on the internet regarding the iso dial and auto iso due to how people think it should operate and some of the things that seem to work in one shooting mode but not others. It technically works the exact same way as all other Nikon cameras. If you set the auto iso range in the menu to use 100 through 6400 and set the ISO dial to any value, that becomes the minimum ISO value. This is the same if you set the same values in the menu on the Z8 and then change the iso value using the ISO button + command dials. If you are in manual mode with auto ISO the iso will adjust to the lowest iso value available for correct exposure.

Setting it up as you suggested does work as you describe in M and partially in S but in all other modes the ISO dial sets minimum ISO. Using this method is reliable in M but causes issues in other modes. I had mine setup like this up through a few weeks ago but now I set it up like my other Nikon cameras and that allows me to switch to other exposure modes without having to remember to change the iso dial. I have auto iso in my menu so it’s easy to turn on/off. I wish there were a few more function buttons.
 
I think the Zf is a capable backup option but obviously differs quite a bit from an ergonomic and controls standpoint with far less customizable buttons. If you end up going this way, my recommendation is to put the iso dial on C and shutter dial on 1/3 stop and control the camera with the command dials to keep the operation as similar to your Z9 as possible. Also, practice with using the touch screen as a trackpad for moving focus points ahead of time or d-pad so you’re used to it so you don’t end up missing shots trying to figure it out when the action starts. The Zf is way more capable than the older Z6ii and just takes a little getting used to for using as an action camera.

Also, Nikon has offered the Z8 for less than $3000 refurbished so that may be an option too.
Thanks for reminding me about using the screen as a touchpad to move the focus area. I tried it out when I got the camera, loved it, then didn't use the camera for several weeks and totally forgot about it.
 
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