aringer
Active member
Thanks for sharing! I shoot a lot over water, I'll keep an eye out for this.
FYI: Nikon 180-600 Optical Anomaly
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Calson
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When I have seen banding in my images it was always when using Adobe ACR to convert the raw files. When I converted those files using Nikon software the banding was not evident. I would save the files in TIFF format and then open them in Photoshop for further processing. Adob's people reverse engineer ACR and this has its shortcomings.
With the D850 camera I found myself with images of animals where the background contained fan palms. The leaves or fronds generating considerable Moire in many of the images. This was a problem with the sensor and data processing and not the lens that was used.
With the D850 camera I found myself with images of animals where the background contained fan palms. The leaves or fronds generating considerable Moire in many of the images. This was a problem with the sensor and data processing and not the lens that was used.
this is not a PF lens. 180-600 zoom
The IQ cost of spending $1800 vs $12,000. Since it only occurs a few times, sounds like a great to me
was the exposure lossless raw, HE*, HE, JPG? If HE* wonder if it could be compress artifiact?
Patty
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Someone mentioned moire. This kind of reminds me of moire. That wouldn't be due to the lens as it would be due to using a digital camera. Moire doesn't have to be with manmade objects. I took and image of a black and white dog where the fur was crossing a bit in a particular area. I got moire. As Steve said it's not an all the time thing. So if this is a rare instance and not consistent I wouldn't worry about it. This is the lens I'm saving up for so I can do some wildlife. Other than this do you like the lens?
RAW conversion on this image was done with DxO PL7. After reading this I went and opened it with NX Studio and it looks the same.
Lossless.
In my experience moire usually shows up with color shifts which isn't the case here. The sensor certainly plays a part. But I've shot several thousand frames across water with the Z8/9 and at least a few hundred over similarly rippled water. Never seen anything similar so far. Maybe just coincidence the first time seeing this is with this particular lens attached.
I've not shot with the lens a lot yet but liking it so far.
ajrmd
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Again, I’m not sure that this phenomenon is unique to this lens and have seen it before with a high quality prime +tc over water. I think it is an interference pattern created by a combination of waves, light, and a sensor scanning at the right frequencies to produce this. Perhaps, I’m off but again would encourage the OP to send this image to Nikon for comment.
If I had a direct pipeline to someone in Nikon's engineering department I'd do so. But based on past experience dealing with their customer support I'm not inclined to go there. Besides, I'm no longer part of the ten percent of people helping make the world go around. I'm now part of the ninety percent that just go on the web and complain when something goes wrong. Why try to be part of the solution when it's so much easier to exacerbate problems?
I like the cut of your jibIf I had a direct pipeline to someone in Nikon's engineering department I'd do so. But based on past experience dealing with their customer support I'm not inclined to go there. Besides, I'm no longer part of the ten percent of people helping make the world go around. I'm now part of the ninety percent that just go on the web and complain when something goes wrong. Why try to be part of the solution when it's so much easier to exacerbate problems?
Dawatm
Member
Someone just posted some examples of this phenomenon on a Facebook Group for 180-600 users and it appeared in the OOF and there was no water involved. And, the lines were even more evident. Group is Nikon Z Nikkor 180-600 Users.
Calson
Well-known member
The key aspect is that it was an "anomaly". When I have experienced Moire it was with stripped shirts and stripped ties and lace veils. It would be apparent in fewer than 1% of the images taken at the time so I simply did not use those images. With the images from the fan palms in the background it was a problem with 100% of the images I took and I could not change my location or that of my subjects.
I often see Moire in wildlife films shot with digital cameras and the editors chose to include the footage and hope that most people will would notice it.
I often see Moire in wildlife films shot with digital cameras and the editors chose to include the footage and hope that most people will would notice it.