Nikon Refurbished Lens Values - any thoughts?

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MartyD

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I am a little puzzled by Nikons refurbished lens offerings. I am looking to purchase a 300 f2.8 Nikkor. The new price is about $5500 and the refurbished price is $5000, this does not seem like much of a savings if your warranty goes from 5 years to 90 days. They do have sales from time to time and I have seen an additional 10% off refurbished products, so does $1000 off make sense? I do believe today's AF VR lenses have more potential for failure than the manual focus lenses of the past so warranty is important. Any experiences to share? If you save $1000 and have issues, what is the expected repair cost? Cosmetically, is the lens like new? Any idea where most of the refurbished product comes from?
 
I am a little puzzled by Nikons refurbished lens offerings. I am looking to purchase a 300 f2.8 Nikkor. The new price is about $5500 and the refurbished price is $5000, this does not seem like much of a savings if your warranty goes from 5 years to 90 days. They do have sales from time to time and I have seen an additional 10% off refurbished products, so does $1000 off make sense? I do believe today's AF VR lenses have more potential for failure than the manual focus lenses of the past so warranty is important. Any experiences to share? If you save $1000 and have issues, what is the expected repair cost? Cosmetically, is the lens like new? Any idea where most of the refurbished product comes from?
I have purchased refurbished lenses and bodies from Olympus with good luck, but Olympus does offer a 30-day trial period. I have had friends who have purchased refurbished bodies from Nikon with mixed success. I agree that for a lens of that price and design complexity that a warranty is valuable. Does Nikon offer you a return privilege? Given Nikon's parts and repair policies, I am not sure that the discount would give me enough peace of mind to pocket the difference.

--Ken
 
The refurbished lenses I am considering are sold by Nikon USA. I don’t believe they are considered gray market, just refurbished and without the 5 year warranty.
My mistake. Sorry. For some reason, I remembered your OP incorrectly. Apologies for any confusion.

--Ken
 
Refurbs come from several sources. They could be returns that can no longer be sold as new. They could be items that were returned to the dealer within the dealer's return period; this could be that the buyer changed their mind or there was a problem (either real or perceived). When returned by the dealer, Nikon sends them to their service department for a thorough check. If a problem is found, it's fixed and sold as refurbed. If it checks out ok, it's sold as a refurb. Another possibility, one that I experienced personally, was replacement for an item sent for repair. I had a lens that fell and I sent in for repair. They repaired it (I paid) but it had problems during the repair warranty. Just as I sent it in, the tsunami hit Japan and parts were not readily obtainable. They sent me a refurb instead. Sadly the refurb looked like it had been thru a war and I insisted on a suitable replacement which they did send. I suspect when parts arrived, my original lens was repaired and used as a refurb for someone else or sold as such.
Refurb bodies have been seen with near zero clicks or with 10,000+. Nikon typically doesn't discount their refurbs enough for me to take the risk of getting someone else's intermittent problems that got past their checks. When Nikon decides to blow out some refurbs to a dealer like Adorama the deals seem better but in my mind, there is nothing like a 5 year warranty on a new lens. With the amount of electronics in them, it's no longer a matter of if something will fail, it's when.
 
Refurbs come from several sources. They could be returns that can no longer be sold as new. They could be items that were returned to the dealer within the dealer's return period; this could be that the buyer changed their mind or there was a problem (either real or perceived). When returned by the dealer, Nikon sends them to their service department for a thorough check. If a problem is found, it's fixed and sold as refurbed. If it checks out ok, it's sold as a refurb. Another possibility, one that I experienced personally, was replacement for an item sent for repair. I had a lens that fell and I sent in for repair. They repaired it (I paid) but it had problems during the repair warranty. Just as I sent it in, the tsunami hit Japan and parts were not readily obtainable. They sent me a refurb instead. Sadly the refurb looked like it had been thru a war and I insisted on a suitable replacement which they did send. I suspect when parts arrived, my original lens was repaired and used as a refurb for someone else or sold as such.
Refurb bodies have been seen with near zero clicks or with 10,000+. Nikon typically doesn't discount their refurbs enough for me to take the risk of getting someone else's intermittent problems that got past their checks. When Nikon decides to blow out some refurbs to a dealer like Adorama the deals seem better but in my mind, there is nothing like a 5 year warranty on a new lens. With the amount of electronics in them, it's no longer a matter of if something will fail, it's when.

This is what is puzzling to me! You are not really sure about the history of the refurb, you only have a 90 day warranty, and you don't really save that much, I thought maybe I was missing something in the offerings. Thanks for the information.
 
Having worked in electronics manufacturing, I can state that though rare, there are some components that drift out of spec. If that were to be the cause of the return, Nikon would adjust (if possible) and return it to spec. We used to burn electronic instruments for 4 weeks before we shipped them out. If there was any drift during that period, the device was re-adjusted and burned for another 4 weeks. If it drifted again, components were replaced and back to the rack to cook again. I'm almost 100% sure Nikon doesn't do this, they adjust and out the door it goes. You are correct, we don't know what the story is behind any given refurb.
 
They offered an additional 20% off in November. I have bought two refurbished lenses and one refurbished body and have no complaints. They were all at much steeper discount than the standard refurbished price from Nikon. For the standard discount, I’d agree with you and spend the little extra for the new item.
 
They offered an additional 20% off in November. I have bought two refurbished lenses and one refurbished body and have no complaints. They were all at much steeper discount than the standard refurbished price from Nikon. For the standard discount, I’d agree with you and spend the little extra for the new item.
I try to watch when they have an additional discount on their refurbished merchandise but it is usually limited to certain items. If I could find the 300f2.8 at an additional 20% off I would consider it. That would put it in the $4000 range and good used copies sell in the $3500 dollar range.
 
I try to watch when they have an additional discount on their refurbished merchandise but it is usually limited to certain items. If I could find the 300f2.8 at an additional 20% off I would consider it. That would put it in the $4000 range and good used copies sell in the $3500 dollar range.
this sale included all the available lenses and there were some really good deals available. I’m almost certain they had the 300mm F/2.8 available. I was very tempted to pick up the 600mm, but the size of it is too big for how I do most of my shooting. The 300mm PF was also very tempting. I think it was about $1300 if I remember correctly.
 
I have purchased two refurbished items from Nikon (USA). The first was a 70-200mm AF-S G lens that quit focusing after about five years. I've got other AF-S G lenses older than that and they are all still working. (Knock wood!) The second item was a D7100 that they delivered while I was on an unexpected business trip and never had the chance to work with before the 30-day warranty expired. That camera never focused correctly with any of my lenses and had a couple of other issues. I traded it in, with full disclosure, at a camera shop; I think I got about $200 US for it in trade.

I plan to never again purchase refurbished gear from any source. I know I may miss some good opportunities, but it's not worth the risk to me.

As far as the lens you're looking at, if I can't see spending $5500 on a new one, I can't see spending $5000 on a refurbished one. To further help you decide the value of the refurbished lens, ask what it would cost to buy a one-year warranty for that lens if they offer one.

$0.02....

W
 
ask what it would cost to buy a one-year warranty for that lens if they offer one.
The last I remembered, Nikon did not offer this kind of extended warranty on refurbished equipment, but I could be wrong. At least Olympus gave you a 30-day trial, a 90-day warranty, and the option to buy an extended warranty (2 years IIRC).

--Ken
 
IMHO For the small discount, it’s just not worth it. If they had confidence in the quality of the repair, they’d offer at least one year. Some of these cameras / lenses cost more than reconditioned engines / transmissions and you get a better warranty on those.
 
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