To keep not-so-great images, or delete? Am I a digital image hoarder or a sensible archivist?

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Steve's article of "Am I Wasting Time and Missing Shots" got me thinking.

Is it worth it to store no-so-great images ? Is it worth keeping multiple shots of the same object?

Storage space is not the premium it was in the past. Archiving is too easy. With the critera of focus and exposure, I am left with lots of images.

In the era of film, I had no problem throwing away 35mm slides. The keep stack was smaller than the throw. Rarely did I keep more than duplicates.

Please respond with your keep/throw philosophy.

Bob near Louisville, KY
 
I am in the same boat, I really need to cull many of my images also. As I mainly shoot birds, any that are OOF, or the bird is looking away, or there is blur etc, I immediately cull them. It is the ones where I have a number of them in focus is where the difficulty lies. The issue these days is that pretty much all of them are in focus with the modern cameras and lenses!
 
I am in the same boat, I really need to cull many of my images also. As I mainly shoot birds, any that are OOF, or the bird is looking away, or there is blur etc, I immediately cull them. It is the ones where I have a number of them in focus is where the difficulty lies. The issue these days is that pretty much all of them are in focus with the modern cameras and lenses!
Lance B,

We share the same culling criteria and suffer the same storage affliction.

Your observation of the technology vs skill has me a bit depressed. I guess I am not as technically proficient as I thought.😁
 
These kinds of discussions have gone on for years. My philosophy is to always cull the crud from my pictures. I’ve had regular purges to delete substandard or duplicate images. I have also been progressively improving on not taking pictures if I know the picture will just be junk.

My exceptions are for things I’ll never see again or have never seen before. But if I ever do get them again, I’ll delete the bad old ones.

In the end my pics will likely end up being deleted by someone and will disappear forever after I’m gone. So I don’t worry about posterity or popularity or longevity. I just want to have fun and share images I like.
 
Steve's article of "Am I Wasting Time and Missing Shots" got me thinking.

Is it worth it to store no-so-great images ? Is it worth keeping multiple shots of the same object?

Storage space is not the premium it was in the past. Archiving is too easy. With the critera of focus and exposure, I am left with lots of images.

In the era of film, I had no problem throwing away 35mm slides. The keep stack was smaller than the throw. Rarely did I keep more than duplicates.

Please respond with your keep/throw philosophy.

Bob near Louisville, KY
I may be in the minority here but my philosophy is "when in doubt, toss it out", unless of course it's a cherished life event or family member. What's the sense in keeping iffy images when often there already are more "good ones" than I have time to get to? I can't tell you how many files already fill my hard drives, and unless I'm convicted of a capital crime and sentenced to life in prison (and assuming they'd allow me to have my laptop while there), I seriously doubt that I'll ever have the time to go through unprocessed images from, say, 5 or 10 or 15 years ago. Besides, I'm fairly certain that the world and my descendants will survive just fine without ever seeing my unshared wildlife shots. 🥴
 
Lately I rely on FastRawviewer, and send any questionable photos to a "Rejected" subfolder. Knowing there's a folder as a safety net, and that the file isn't permanently deleted makes it easier for me to hit delete while culling :). Then I will come back a few days later , and if I'm brave I can delete the entire contents of the "rejected" folder , or decide to review the "rejected" folder images one last time before purging permanently. Works for me .. YMMV
 
I am in the same boat, I really need to cull many of my images also. As I mainly shoot birds, any that are OOF, or the bird is looking away, or there is blur etc, I immediately cull them. It is the ones where I have a number of them in focus is where the difficulty lies. The issue these days is that pretty much all of them are in focus with the modern cameras and lenses!
I’m there Lance….pick the best pose …not easy🤔
 
I delete most photos I take. I delete the obvious bad ones before importing. After importing, I delete more keeping the best exposure or pose. Every January, I go through the prior year (i.e. I went through 2023 this month) and delete anything I didn't edit, couldn't remember why I took the shot or just didn't like it a year later. Although storage is not as expensive as it used to be, it still isn't free.

However cost is low on the reason list. I find deleting the photos causes me to really evaluate my work and be very critical of my photos.

A friend once asked me what was the one thing that I thought helped me advance in photography? My answer "the delete key".

Jeff
 
Today I took 462 photos in less than ten minutes, yesterday it was more than twice as many in less than a half hour. After sorting out the best of today's and editing them I'll probably keep between 15 and 20 (I'm not finished editing). The other 440+ photos are headed for the trash bin. I used to do that with slides too and I'm now digitizing the best of them, the rest will go in the trash can. If I can't foresee ever using a photo, out it goes. Sure I've made some mistakes over the years, but that just gives me an excuse to get out and take more photos. We have enough junk that we'll never use without accumulating more, including on the computers.
 
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I am in the same boat, I really need to cull many of my images also. As I mainly shoot birds, any that are OOF, or the bird is looking away, or there is blur etc, I immediately cull them. It is the ones where I have a number of them in focus is where the difficulty lies. The issue these days is that pretty much all of them are in focus with the modern cameras and lenses!
If i have several or even a lot of images with the same or nearly same pose, I will pick one or maybe 2 and delete the rest. WHY keep the others?
 
If i have several or even a lot of images with the same or nearly same pose, I will pick one or maybe 2 and delete the rest. WHY keep the others?
You are of course correct, Karen. But there is always that nagging feeling that in one image you may have just missed some slight little thing that could make it a better/worse image than the another that you have already selected. Also, it's about getting the time to go through every one to make sure you've selected the best and didn't miss a tiny detail. As Cameron stated above, storage is cheap and I usually only buy a 2TB SSD once every couple of years and that is suffice to store all my RAW files.
 
I compare the really close images = often ar 100%. If i can't find a difference, why would I find a difference in the future? If I don't have the time after a shoot, what is the likelihood that I will have the time in the future AND choose to View duplicate files as opposed to unique files I did not process the first time around?
 
I compare the really close images = often ar 100%. If i can't find a difference, why would I find a difference in the future? If I don't have the time after a shoot, what is the likelihood that I will have the time in the future AND choose to View duplicate files as opposed to unique files I did not process the first time around?
I also view them all at 100%. However, I am obviously not quite as concerned as others are about storage and thus I am not worried as much about deleting images that are closely replicated. In some cases I do, and some other's I don't. Sometimes, I also like to go through images at a later date, maybe months or even years later and find a slightly different pose that ticks the box so to speak. This can be quite fun, actually. If I was wonton with my culling, I may miss the sometimes-great opportunity to possibly discover a slightly better shot. As for time after a shoot, I may be excited about the particular shoot and want to go through them quickly to find a great shot. I may inadvertently miss a slightly better shot and discover it days, weeks or months later when I have more time. As a stated, memory is cheap and thus I am not hung up on culling images for the need of space.
 
Unfortunately, those of you who are hoarders are just leaving your mess (err, hoard) for someone else to clean up when you're gone. If you leave a lot of photographic junk, nobody's going to look through it all to sort out the good images that would be of interest -- so "the baby will be thrown out with the bathwater".
 
Unfortunately, those of you who are hoarders are just leaving your mess (err, hoard) for someone else to clean up when you're gone. If you leave a lot of photographic junk, nobody's going to look through it all to sort out the good images that would be of interest -- so "the baby will be thrown out with the bathwater".
nobody is going to care or go through my photos when i’m gone, even if i carefully curated them. it’s just the way it is. 🤷
…Not exactly…When my mother passed 20 years ago we found several boxes containing hundreds of photos, many never seen by my sisters or myself. Nearly all were B&W 4x5s with zig-zag edges and of course other people we didn’t recognize from the 20’s and 30’s, some even earlier. This one from 1936 of mom had writing on the back (customary in the day) telling her age (15) and that her dress cost 50 cents…. The one below is my mother’s father during WW1 somewhere in France 1918. Maybe my sisters or other family members will do likewise when I’m gone…. I’m thankful mom kept these…..😌
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For wildlife subject matter, the bar for a keeper is much higher than for low volume work like portraits or landscapes.

I just spent a half day photographing sandhill cranes and other subjects in the Hiwassee Wildlife Refuge (Birchwood, TN). I ended up with 1500 images in about 3 hours. I'll keep less than 100 files. A good number of those - maybe 10 images - were from a single pass by a whooping crane at close range and good light. The balance are mainly birds in flight or tight close ups of sandhill cranes and a juvenile bald eagle.

The primary purpose of the images was testing the 800mm PF on the Z50ii and Z8. I'll end up posting 3-4 images on social media, making a couple of prints, and archiving the balance. Everything will be keyworded for easy access. Anything borderline is quickly discarded. Composition problems - like overlaps, head turned slightly away, and poor wing position - are immediate discards. I'll keep 1-2 frames in a series if the wing position is excellent, but generally balance eliminating duplicates with the time it takes to figure out which should be deleted. If they are exactly the same - a 20 fps burst of a static subject - I'll run through them for a single pass at 100% or 200% and make quick decisions on discards. I'll keep more photos of uncommon subjects and rarities. I'll cull more aggressively with common subjects.

The biggest issue with wildlife is it's common to have hundreds or thousands of images of the same subject - and you only need to keep a handful. Arthur Morris photographs birds almost every day and usually takes 1000-2000 photos. He usually culls images within an hour or two of leaving the field. His approach is to run through the images, pick his best images only as selects - maybe 5-15 images - and discard the rest. The selects are immediately edited, a few shots posted in his blog, and the keepers uploaded to cloud storage. His approach is based on the idea that he photographs the same subject frequently, but there are only a few really great photos and those are what he shares. A daily blog post maintains discipline and provides a use for the images. It also makes the best photos accessible with keywords for access or search later.

Increasingly - with the high frame rates of current cameras - I'm viewing images and picking selects while the images are still on the memory card and without even taking time for download. I use Photo Mechanic. After review, I only download the selects to be edited, and reformat the card immediately after downloading and verifying the download. If the image is not outstanding, it's not a select. I don't need to view individual images at 100% on my first pass. The first pass is based on framing, composition, wing position, etc., and only the best of those images get a second look for sharpness before ingest and import. This is a different approach, but seems to work better for high volume photos. If I make a 20 frame burst, usually only 1-2 frames are really the good ones - and often I discard the entire series.
 
For wildlife subject matter, the bar for a keeper is much higher than for low volume work like portraits or landscapes.

I just spent a half day photographing sandhill cranes and other subjects in the Hiwassee Wildlife Refuge (Birchwood, TN). I ended up with 1500 images in about 3 hours. I'll keep less than 100 files. A good number of those - maybe 10 images - were from a single pass by a whooping crane at close range and good light. The balance are mainly birds in flight or tight close ups of sandhill cranes and a juvenile bald eagle.

The primary purpose of the images was testing the 800mm PF on the Z50ii and Z8. I'll end up posting 3-4 images on social media, making a couple of prints, and archiving the balance. Everything will be keyworded for easy access. Anything borderline is quickly discarded. Composition problems - like overlaps, head turned slightly away, and poor wing position - are immediate discards. I'll keep 1-2 frames in a series if the wing position is excellent, but generally balance eliminating duplicates with the time it takes to figure out which should be deleted. If they are exactly the same - a 20 fps burst of a static subject - I'll run through them for a single pass at 100% or 200% and make quick decisions on discards. I'll keep more photos of uncommon subjects and rarities. I'll cull more aggressively with common subjects.

The biggest issue with wildlife is it's common to have hundreds or thousands of images of the same subject - and you only need to keep a handful. Arthur Morris photographs birds almost every day and usually takes 1000-2000 photos. He usually culls images within an hour or two of leaving the field. His approach is to run through the images, pick his best images only as selects - maybe 5-15 images - and discard the rest. The selects are immediately edited, a few shots posted in his blog, and the keepers uploaded to cloud storage. His approach is based on the idea that he photographs the same subject frequently, but there are only a few really great photos and those are what he shares. A daily blog post maintains discipline and provides a use for the images. It also makes the best photos accessible with keywords for access or search later.

Increasingly - with the high frame rates of current cameras - I'm viewing images and picking selects while the images are still on the memory card and without even taking time for download. I use Photo Mechanic. After review, I only download the selects to be edited, and reformat the card immediately after downloading and verifying the download. If the image is not outstanding, it's not a select. I don't need to view individual images at 100% on my first pass. The first pass is based on framing, composition, wing position, etc., and only the best of those images get a second look for sharpness before ingest and import. This is a different approach, but seems to work better for high volume photos. If I make a 20 frame burst, usually only 1-2 frames are really the good ones - and often I discard the entire series.
I don't use photo mechanic but your processes (and logic) are similar to mine. I use Apple Preview and Photometer to quickly look at and reject bad images.
 
I delete most photos I take. I delete the obvious bad ones before importing. After importing, I delete more keeping the best exposure or pose. Every January, I go through the prior year (i.e. I went through 2023 this month) and delete anything I didn't edit, couldn't remember why I took the shot or just didn't like it a year later. Although storage is not as expensive as it used to be, it still isn't free.

However cost is low on the reason list. I find deleting the photos causes me to really evaluate my work and be very critical of my photos.

A friend once asked me what was the one thing that I thought helped me advance in photography? My answer "the delete key".

Jeff
Totally agree. And, while storage may be cheap finding photos in the mass isn’t easy even with careful key wording, etc. I am a diligent deleter. Hey, when I’m gone if anyone looks at my files they’ll be amazed at what a fabulous photographer I was! 🤣
 
I keep more than I should or need to. It has, however, saved me a few times when the image I bought would be the keeper was actually a little out of focus or had some other flaw. I could go back to the shots before and after and get a good one. Also, truth be told, I get little lazy when reviewing and sorting. Anyway, I just ordered a new 4TB exsternal SSD and a HD for backup yesterday. This feeds my addiction :)
 
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