When to travel to Missoula, MT?

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One of my girls has moved to Missoula and I'd like to drive up from the SF Bay area to see her this "fall". Question is when. I figure to take some pictures along the way then spend some time shooting large mammals when I get there. I understand the National Bison Reserve is nearby plus I'm willing to drive and camp once there. For example when is the elk rut?
All suggestions welcome,
Thanks,
John
 
Rut is from end of September to October and is conditioned by reduction in daylight hours. Safest bet on the rut would be second week of October. Jackson Hole area is also good for elk with them moving down for the winter months. Be extra cautious as with their hormones raging the chance of being attacked is greater if they perceive you as a threat. Same applies to bison in the late spring when the bulls are competing for the females
 
Hello iSequoia/John,

Your drive to Missoula should be pretty depending on your route. The two-lane roads will offer the most scenic views, but I have seen some spectacular changing of the leaves between Spokane and Missoula via I-90. Your allotted time in Missoula will dictate what you will be able to do. Missoula to Kalispell is two hours and another 1.5 hours to West Glacier. Due to CO-VID – 19, most of Glacier park is closed including most of the Going-to-the-sun road, so check the parks website for the most current open/closed info if Glacier Park is on your list of must-sees.

The National Bison range/Reserve is about an hour north of Missoula on Hwy 93 on the way to Kalispell. The reserve is large with few roads, which are single lane gravel. Seeing/ being in range of photographing bison/buffalo is not a given like it is in Yellowstone.

I did have to chuckle when you mentioned “spend some time shooting large mammals when I get there.” For most of us “Montanans” this time of year your statement means hunting them and not photographing them – sorry for the squirrel moment.

If you want a 90+ percent chance of photographing large mammals, I suggest carving out three days to make the trip to Yellowstone – one to drive there and get settled – one to drive through the Lamar Valley, and one to wander back to Missoula. It will be at least a 4.5/5 hour drive (plan on some road construction) from Missoula to Gardiner. When you make it to Bozeman, you have two choices – south to West Yellowstone/Old Faithful loop or east to Livingston/south to Gardiner/Lamar Valley. There has not been a time that we have been to Yellowstone via the Gardiner/north gate that we have not seen elk. Mid to late September has been our best time to see the bulls posturing and the elk in rut by the north gate and in Mammoth. Hearing them bugle at night is pretty cool, and depending on how close they are – will give you goose bumps. One could spend the rest of that day driving around Gardiner and Mammoth Hot Springs checking things out. You can either camp or stay in a hotel in either location. Keep in mind that this time of year is borderline off-season, so some things might be closing/closed for the season – check websites. FYI – Gardiner in not in the park and Mammoth is in the park. Gardiner is in Montana and Mammoth is in Wyoming – almost all of Yellowstone is in Wyoming.

If you chose to take this route, plan on getting up early and take the north road (Grand Loop Rd) to Tower-Roosevelt. Good place to use the facilities. From there you will take Hwy 212/NE entrance road/Lamar Valley Rd through the Lamar Valley. This is our go-to route if you want to see animals – mostly Bison/Buffalo, Coyotes, Big Horn Sheep (around Soda Butte) and Moose (around Pebble Creek). We have seen the Lamar Wolf pack and two Grizzlies on this route, but they were too far away to get any good photographs – just sat and enjoyed (make sure you have binoculars). Typically, to see wolves, you need to be in the park at their known sighting locations at the crack of dawn, or before. We will typically pack a lunch and eat at the large turn-out at Soda Butte, or push on to Cooke City. The Beartooth Hwy from Cooke City is an awesome drive but will add a day to your trip and put you in Red Lodge, then to Billings or Columbus. Use the facilities at the Museum at the west end of town before reversing the trip back to Gardiner for dinner at the Yellowstone Pizza Co. (the spaghetti with two meatballs is AWESOME). Depending on the time of day, you could camp or head into Livingston or Bozeman for the night and wander back to Missoula the next day. A great two-lane on the way back is from Anaconda to Phillipsburg to Drummond – nice fall colors.

Some things to remember/bring (a possible list for all photographers):

Layer your clothing – Montana this time of year is unpredictable (ok, most of the year) – our garden hose has frozen in July, and we have had snow every month of the year (not in the same year). Possibly some rollup/pouch raingear and a hat and light gloves.

Plan in extra time – especially in the park. A seven mile stretch of road took us over two hours because of a Bison/Buffalo jam (them standing in the road – cannot haze them off), which brings me to the next point.

Use the facilities (restrooms/vaults) when you are see them – you may get stuck in a “jam” or find something to photograph for hours – both have happened many times.

Bring extra snacks and drinks. Most of Yellowstone is over a mile in elevation (dehydration is easy), borderline off-season – places to buy things may be reduced.

A beanbag window tripod. I have a large lens LensCoat filled with unsalted sunflower seeds - -works great. This way if I need to empty it – I can just dump them out. Since you will be driving, a study tripod as well. If you do some “roadside window photography” turn the engine off when you are sitting – the exhaust will create heat aberrations in front of your lens.



Most of all have fun, and record the memories with your daughter!!!
 
Hello iSequoia/John,

Your drive to Missoula should be pretty depending on your route. The two-lane roads will offer the most scenic views, but I have seen some spectacular changing of the leaves between Spokane and Missoula via I-90. Your allotted time in Missoula will dictate what you will be able to do. Missoula to Kalispell is two hours and another 1.5 hours to West Glacier. Due to CO-VID – 19, most of Glacier park is closed including most of the Going-to-the-sun road, so check the parks website for the most current open/closed info if Glacier Park is on your list of must-sees.

The National Bison range/Reserve is about an hour north of Missoula on Hwy 93 on the way to Kalispell. The reserve is large with few roads, which are single lane gravel. Seeing/ being in range of photographing bison/buffalo is not a given like it is in Yellowstone.

I did have to chuckle when you mentioned “spend some time shooting large mammals when I get there.” For most of us “Montanans” this time of year your statement means hunting them and not photographing them – sorry for the squirrel moment.

If you want a 90+ percent chance of photographing large mammals, I suggest carving out three days to make the trip to Yellowstone – one to drive there and get settled – one to drive through the Lamar Valley, and one to wander back to Missoula. It will be at least a 4.5/5 hour drive (plan on some road construction) from Missoula to Gardiner. When you make it to Bozeman, you have two choices – south to West Yellowstone/Old Faithful loop or east to Livingston/south to Gardiner/Lamar Valley. There has not been a time that we have been to Yellowstone via the Gardiner/north gate that we have not seen elk. Mid to late September has been our best time to see the bulls posturing and the elk in rut by the north gate and in Mammoth. Hearing them bugle at night is pretty cool, and depending on how close they are – will give you goose bumps. One could spend the rest of that day driving around Gardiner and Mammoth Hot Springs checking things out. You can either camp or stay in a hotel in either location. Keep in mind that this time of year is borderline off-season, so some things might be closing/closed for the season – check websites. FYI – Gardiner in not in the park and Mammoth is in the park. Gardiner is in Montana and Mammoth is in Wyoming – almost all of Yellowstone is in Wyoming.

If you chose to take this route, plan on getting up early and take the north road (Grand Loop Rd) to Tower-Roosevelt. Good place to use the facilities. From there you will take Hwy 212/NE entrance road/Lamar Valley Rd through the Lamar Valley. This is our go-to route if you want to see animals – mostly Bison/Buffalo, Coyotes, Big Horn Sheep (around Soda Butte) and Moose (around Pebble Creek). We have seen the Lamar Wolf pack and two Grizzlies on this route, but they were too far away to get any good photographs – just sat and enjoyed (make sure you have binoculars). Typically, to see wolves, you need to be in the park at their known sighting locations at the crack of dawn, or before. We will typically pack a lunch and eat at the large turn-out at Soda Butte, or push on to Cooke City. The Beartooth Hwy from Cooke City is an awesome drive but will add a day to your trip and put you in Red Lodge, then to Billings or Columbus. Use the facilities at the Museum at the west end of town before reversing the trip back to Gardiner for dinner at the Yellowstone Pizza Co. (the spaghetti with two meatballs is AWESOME). Depending on the time of day, you could camp or head into Livingston or Bozeman for the night and wander back to Missoula the next day. A great two-lane on the way back is from Anaconda to Phillipsburg to Drummond – nice fall colors.

Some things to remember/bring (a possible list for all photographers):

Layer your clothing – Montana this time of year is unpredictable (ok, most of the year) – our garden hose has frozen in July, and we have had snow every month of the year (not in the same year). Possibly some rollup/pouch raingear and a hat and light gloves.

Plan in extra time – especially in the park. A seven mile stretch of road took us over two hours because of a Bison/Buffalo jam (them standing in the road – cannot haze them off), which brings me to the next point.

Use the facilities (restrooms/vaults) when you are see them – you may get stuck in a “jam” or find something to photograph for hours – both have happened many times.

Bring extra snacks and drinks. Most of Yellowstone is over a mile in elevation (dehydration is easy), borderline off-season – places to buy things may be reduced.

A beanbag window tripod. I have a large lens LensCoat filled with unsalted sunflower seeds - -works great. This way if I need to empty it – I can just dump them out. Since you will be driving, a study tripod as well. If you do some “roadside window photography” turn the engine off when you are sitting – the exhaust will create heat aberrations in front of your lens.



Most of all have fun, and record the memories with your daughter!!!
Thanks for the excellent reply and the time you put into writing it. Much appreciated.
My Botswana and Costa Rica (with Steve) trips were canceled this year so I've great hopes for this one giving me lots of images to work with.
-John
 
Great advice from airestudiosmt on the Yellowstone segment.

I would add that the road from Roosevelt Lodge to Canyon is closed through 2021 and Roosevelt Lodge did not open this summer. The gas station is open at Roosevelt but that is the only services from Mammoth to Silver Gate/Cooke City at the Northeast Entrance to the park. I did see that Mommoth campground opened this past week, it had been closed and they did not know if it would open or not. Check the status of facilities in Yellowstone before your trip, it has been a strange summer in the park.
 
Great advice from airestudiosmt on the Yellowstone segment.

I would add that the road from Roosevelt Lodge to Canyon is closed through 2021 and Roosevelt Lodge did not open this summer. The gas station is open at Roosevelt but that is the only services from Mammoth to Silver Gate/Cooke City at the Northeast Entrance to the park. I did see that Mommoth campground opened this past week, it had been closed and they did not know if it would open or not. Check the status of facilities in Yellowstone before your trip, it has been a strange summer in the park.
Got it, Thanks
 
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