Nextlife1
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I have not noticed this going through a card reader.
Official Nikon Z9 Launch, Info, and Discussion Thread
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I have not noticed this going through a card reader.
OK. I clearly need to do a controlled test between my Z7ii and the Z9.
Are there any "serious", credible tests comparing lossless compressed and HE* out there?
John Navitsky
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I've not seen anything that I would hang my hat on. Most of the "tests" I've seen, seem to focus on can they "see" the difference, which misses the point for a serious RAW comparison, IMO.
John Navitsky
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A random thing that might be interesting would be to capture the same scene that has a lot of dynamic range, then import to LR with the NR zeroed out, then export to jpg and compare the file sizes of the resultant jpgs.
There are probably vagaries in this approach, but i suspect the size will give you some idea about the amount of information retained in the image.
be interesting to try that with lossless compressed vs he* vs he vs fine jpg.
heck, might be interesting to see what the difference is between the out of camera fine jpg vs importing and exporting that same jpg
O
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Interesting
Yes i agree, I feel the younger generation are doing so well with their I phones and video etc, i used to see a mum and dad on the beach or in the park taking pictures of their child running around now its all video on their smart phones, something live it seems is more memorable and enjoyable to see as its has movement and sound atteched tio a magic moment, its like reading a review and looking at a photo, i cant stand it, i prefer to watch and listen to a clip.
My local Camera House says that the majority of buyers in the younger age group when asking about cameras they say, oh yes i know it dose stills but what about the video.
I think we are on a journey of change and entering fully the third generation of the internet, the internet as i said last year is having more video clips in place of text and stills as we know it..
The adult generation of today grew up with a phone in their hands now the phone is a mini lap top, and high end camera, a credit card, a wallet, a filing cabinet a photo and video album, a Covid scanner and tracking device, a passport soon to be, a tracking or directional finding GPS device all in one and in the palm of you hand.
The Camera manufacturers as we know them are now in a technology war or storm, each a s a standalone will find it hard to survive against the likes of Apple and Samsung in this rapidly changing world, the camera companies need to consolidate as one while working separately to keep up.
The world is about the big getting bigger and the small getting out or left behind.
Innovative Technology is great if used wisely................its the master at creating change with often addiction or dependency, sadly it all comes at a cost.
To the original point, i feel stills will have a place but a progressively smaller place, the way stills were captured in the past will be long forgotten and be very different in the coming decades.
John Navitsky
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ruley74
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Great to hear C1 is doing ok with the files... i was planning to download the trial and give it a go and by the end hoping DXO has released the update for Z9.
Curiously, what is the NR like on C1?
abc123brian
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It's fairly decent now, but I wouldn't say as good as something like Topaz Denoise. It wasn't the best when I first began using it after switching from LR6.
ruley74
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Thanks Brian, i own Topaz, but since my computer crashed i haven't reloaded it as i use DXO. I'll probably reload it also and use a combination.
RoyC
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An equipment note, for those wanting a second, spare or travel only charging cradle Nikon USA has them in stock and is shipping.
O
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Have you tried the Nikon Studio just for noise reduction, i have seen some works at 20,000 iso that shames Adobe...........
O
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Panasonic is working hard at this, they promote 30mb files from video, this will all only get better and become the norm if technology development history is anything to go by.
The internet, Tik Tok etc and web site building sector, advertising demand, is the driving force that will see technical development accelerate going forward.
The 3 amigo's Nikon Canon Sony are positioning them selves as a collective force by embracing change, adapting for survival, as Apple and Samsung just rule the masses in this area.
Video killed the radio star, Video will kill the still photographic star.......the future is going to be excitingly different.
sid_19911991
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NX studio does not function properly on windows 11. They have to release an update. Currently using Capture One 22.
Is there no blur function in Capture One?
Is there no blur function in Capture One?
Super annoying. I have two and they both make the sound. I thought maybe it was a fan inside. In the USA and using the provided power supplies, not another form of USB power.
Satyajit
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Hello Kumar ,
Did you get a battery charger with your Z9 in India? I didn't get any with mine only a USB c charger which directly charges the battery when it's in the body. Nikon says the BIS standard approval couldn't come for the charger
Satyajit
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Thanks a lot its useful and assuring to know that others are also facing this
Satyajit
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Thanks a lot for this info will download a trial version of Capture One and give it a try
thelordofthelight
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I am using Capture One Pro as well and for now it only supports compressed raw and not the HE formats. The files look nice and almost like they look on Studio NX.
No I did not. It is the usb charger. I probably misunderstood the question raised by Darwin. Did not realize that he was referring to the external charger.
Just came across a really cool feature in the Z9. Not sure if it's specific to the Z9 though (it's my only mirrorless camera).
I use back-button focus. While holding the AF-ON button in AF-C mode, when I turn the focus ring (50 1.2) it displays focus peaking. Very cool. I didn't think I could see focus peaking unless I was in MF.
I use back-button focus. While holding the AF-ON button in AF-C mode, when I turn the focus ring (50 1.2) it displays focus peaking. Very cool. I didn't think I could see focus peaking unless I was in MF.
tickle_my_nikon
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What's the general impression of the Z9 auto focus tracking (eye in particular) vs the Sony A1? Not trying to flame, or start anything. I'm waiting on my unit to ship. Jst curious if the system is operating better than some of the comparison videos I've watched where it still seemed to be struggling a bit.
John Navitsky
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probably the most realistic answer you'll get at this point is the a1, r3 and z9 are in the same ballpark
tickle_my_nikon
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That's good enough for me. Thanks John.
O
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I feel Jarrod Polan is open honest accurate and correct in the following link, it goes on for a while but is concise and interesting.
Now as Z9 owner that i am, and a very happy one. i know Nikon will progressively move forward.
I have always said, I am Nikon, yes for image file quality.........
If i Changed brand in 35mm it would only be to Canon..........
Personally i do not like Sony as a company unless i got my gear for free. I do like their gear, not their files.
This is not a my ego is better bigger than yours, this is simply the way i feel...........Sony has done a lot to shake up the industry and they make ground breaking good gear.
Again i am happy with the Z9 for what i need and do.
I think Jarrod's straight up gutsy call it as you want clip is fair and reasonable.
I have no complaints about et Z9, i do feel that Nikon could have built in two processors like Sony not just one, its a bit like the European sports cars, they have a two stage Turbo that just delivers consistent power evenly through the full rev range, start to finish..
I find even as a happy Z9 owner and lover i respect where Sony and Canon are at and especially where they will be with their next release, the gap will widen significantly between the three in 2022/23 .........
Now as Z9 owner that i am, and a very happy one. i know Nikon will progressively move forward.
I have always said, I am Nikon, yes for image file quality.........
If i Changed brand in 35mm it would only be to Canon..........
Personally i do not like Sony as a company unless i got my gear for free. I do like their gear, not their files.
This is not a my ego is better bigger than yours, this is simply the way i feel...........Sony has done a lot to shake up the industry and they make ground breaking good gear.
Again i am happy with the Z9 for what i need and do.
I think Jarrod's straight up gutsy call it as you want clip is fair and reasonable.
I have no complaints about et Z9, i do feel that Nikon could have built in two processors like Sony not just one, its a bit like the European sports cars, they have a two stage Turbo that just delivers consistent power evenly through the full rev range, start to finish..
I find even as a happy Z9 owner and lover i respect where Sony and Canon are at and especially where they will be with their next release, the gap will widen significantly between the three in 2022/23 .........