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sh1209

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I’ve had the lens for a few months and absolutely love it. Having said that, I find it extremely difficult on frame filling images without a TC to prevent the images from appearing over sharpened. I have an import preset for LRC that keeps sharpening at zero. If I use DXO pure raw or topaz denoise I have the sharpening sliders at zero. I rarely increase texture and if I do it’s very minimal. I don’t have this problem with any other lens other than the 90mm macro. If I use the 1.4 tc with the 600 this isn’t an issue, although still very sharp. I realize I can go in and mask the subject and reduce sharpening and other things to help to an extent. Just curious if others run into this and what you do to rectify it.
 
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I have similar issue on a couple of modern lenses when I shoot video (Z9). Might be an overkill, but a mist filter is widely used and I use the Polarpro Mist in 1/4 strength. Anything heavier I just do in post.
 
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Nimi said:
I have similar issue on a couple of modern lenses when I shoot video (Z9). Might be an overkill, but a mist filter is widely used and I use the Polarpro Mist in 1/4 strength. Anything heavier I just do in post.
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Thank you, I will check into that
 
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if you're using LR, it's likely adding some sharpening by default. i have a preset that i use with importing that zeros out the sharpening and NR sliders. ymmv
EDIT: i see you said that. i'm reading too fast again🙃
 
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John Navitsky said:
if you're using LR, it's likely adding some sharpening by default. i have a preset that i use with importing that zeros out the sharpening and NR sliders. ymmv
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I have my own import preset with all sliders except lens corrections and color noise zeroed. It does in fact add sharpening of 40 if using the default import preset.
 
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I don't experience this. I leave default sharpening on in LR. I do find - or at least believe that I find - the images with the bare lens have more 3d like pop but unless I move the clarity slider they almost never feel too sharp. Couple of examples from this AM (and you may well think they're too sharp)...

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Stephen Berger said:
I don't experience this. I leave default sharpening on in LR. I do find - or at least believe that I find - the images with the bare lens have more 3d like pop but unless I move the clarity slider they almost never feel too sharp. Couple of examples from this AM (and you may well think they're too sharp)...

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Those look great and it’s mostly whenever there’s very little or no cropping. It’s definitely worse with low iso frame filling shots.
 
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Palmor said:
The new topaz AI seems do do a better job to. If not I go back to LR or PS and will do the noise reduction myself with masks.
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I think topaz has really improved photo ai over the last couple months. I think it will be a great software once they get all the bugs out.
 
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It is a very, very sharp lens. The TC softens the image no matter what some people say.
I probably over sharpen my images as I still zero out sharpening in LR but then send to Topaz DeNoise which adds a good amount of sharpening and then I add a very small amount of sharpening with strong 50%+ masking when back in LR. I also have LR export set to Sharpen High.

I'm such a sucker for sharpness that I actually don't like using the TC and I don't like going back to my 200-600 anymore because the difference is very noticeable to me.

I do handhold 95% of the time so I probably induce a little hit on sharpness a lot of the time compared to someone using better support.
 
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arbitrage said:
It is a very, very sharp lens. The TC softens the image no matter what some people say.
I probably over sharpen my images as I still zero out sharpening in LR but then send to Topaz DeNoise which adds a good amount of sharpening and then I add a very small amount of sharpening with strong 50%+ masking when back in LR. I also have LR export set to Sharpen High.

I'm such a sucker for sharpness that I actually don't like using the TC and I don't like going back to my 200-600 anymore because the difference is very noticeable to me.

I do handhold 95% of the time so I probably induce a little hit on sharpness a lot of the time compared to someone using better support.
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It’s certainly hard to tame lol. Like you say it makes shorting with the 200-600 not seem so great anymore.
 
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