Photo of Z9 leaked

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abc123brian said:
Of course you are free to switch at any time, but why make the decision just months before expected announcements by Canon and Nikon? Tomorrow is already August and the R3 announcement is expected to be in September. Nikon is expected to release improved tracking firmware for the Z6ii/Z7ii in September which should give a glimpse into what the subject tracking will be like in the Z9, just slower. The Z9 is also expected to be fully announced before the end of November. I would expect we will will get a few Nikon super telephoto lenses with the Z9 announcement if not before. I’m personally hoping Nikon releases the 200-600mm with the Z firmware update in September. I‘m not one to normally recommend waiting for the next product announcement/release because you’ll find yourself waiting forever, but within the next 3-4 months, we should have a very good idea of what the other options consist of. Just my opinion, but why not wait a few months to have a much better idea of the available options if you don’t need it today. Six months or more ago, it would have been different, but we are too close now; for me at least.
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I do understand what you are saying but I don't know what I am waiting for, to be honest. I look at the roadmap (I posted on page one) and only see the 200-600 for me. I believe Eric is correct in it being an updated version of the 200-500. I'd just as soon go with Sigma or Tamron. I'm not a Pro Nikon guy so it took me forever to get my 500 PF to the point I gave up then 2 years later bought one direct from Nikon. If that's gonna be the case with Z lenses, I'd probably rather have Sony in hand sooner. But you are right, no hurries, the desert is fried now and it will be a couple months before I really get excited about photographing anything.
 
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Hut said:
I do understand what you are saying but I don't know what I am waiting for, to be honest. I look at the roadmap (I posted on page one) and only see the 200-600 for me. I believe Eric is correct in it being an updated version of the 200-500. I'd just as soon go with Sigma or Tamron. I'm not a Pro Nikon guy so it took me forever to get my 500 PF to the point I gave up then 2 years later bought one direct from Nikon. If that's gonna be the case with Z lenses, I'd probably rather have Sony in hand sooner. But you are right, no hurries, the desert is fried now and it will be a couple months before I really get excited about photographing anything.
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If timing is important, you can get on the top of the list for a 200-600 by contacting a smaller dealer now. Many of the smaller dealers make lists a year or more in advance when the gear is just a rumor.

The 200-500 is a good lens, and an updated version as a 200-600 would be fine. The difference in the S lenses is weather sealing and sometimes build and design - and of course price. I suspect Nikon will want to keep the price under $2000 if possible. The 200-500 sells well, and a 200-600 in the $1500-2000 range could be very popular with existing Z owners.
 
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I think the next couple months will be pretty interesting in the photography industry, I have put a lot of purchasing decisions on hold to see how it all shakes out. I do think it’s going to be a game of leapfrog, which is good for all of us. One other question, is how do you guys get your settings in here so a person can click on your Instagram from your signature line?
 
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smkunder said:
I think the next couple months will be pretty interesting in the photography industry, I have put a lot of purchasing decisions on hold to see how it all shakes out. I do think it’s going to be a game of leapfrog, which is good for all of us. One other question, is how do you guys get your settings in here so a person can click on your Instagram from your signature line?
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Yep big leaps and bounds, I was so happy with my stuff too....

Go into your profile top right, and look for "Signature", add link using the editor. it might be a feature for "supporting members" only not sure???

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My small contribution to this thread / wish list item - I'd really, really like to see the Z9 add a simple little lock button to the memory card door. Similar to what's on the MB-N11 grip battery door. It's my only minor gripe about the Z6/7 ergonomics - that memory card door loves to pop open if I lift it just the wrong way.

I'm excited for the Z9, even though it's not in my future (any time soon). Also excited for next month's round of firmware updates!
 
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ccirelli said:
My small contribution to this thread / wish list item - I'd really, really like to see the Z9 add a simple little lock button to the memory card door. Similar to what's on the MB-N11 grip battery door. It's my only minor gripe about the Z6/7 ergonomics - that memory card door loves to pop open if I lift it just the wrong way.

I'm excited for the Z9, even though it's not in my future (any time soon). Also excited for next month's round of firmware updates!
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That would be nice and present on the D5/6 but right now not visible on the Z9 leaked images... hard to imagine Nikon would leave it out of their top Pro body hence a lot of people thinking that the camera leaked from Tokyo is not a final design. If the button layout stays as it is, I don't know they'll have room for a latch and that would be a big departure from the past.
 
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FB101 said:
If the button layout stays as it is, I don't know they'll have room for a latch and that would be a big departure from the past.
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I'm picturing more of a push-button, just in the middle of the card door. Similar to other brands, and what Nikon uses on the MB-N11 grip battery door. Shouldn't interfere with any buttons on the back.
 
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Hut said:
That is not encouraging. I want a 200-600 lens if it is comparable to what Sony offers.
Lightning fast focus, dust proof, light weight and easy to carry hiking, great sharpness and overall quality.
im an enthusiast but willing to spend hard earned money on what works for me. Im no marketing genius but a Z mount 500 pf should be in the roadmap
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The Sony 200-600 is not a GM so I bet the Nikon is on par with the Sony version. I think they both will outperform the Canon offering.
 
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dtibbals said:
The Sony 200-600 is not a GM so I bet the Nikon is on par with the Sony version. I think they both will outperform the Canon offering.
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isn't the canon 100-500. Gain on the short end, lose a bit on the long end. Given the choice I might opt for a 100-500, especially if (1) it handles a 1.4 converter well, and (2) there is 600 PF F5.6 or 6.3 which also work well with a converter. You can always crop if the lens is not long enough but if the lens is not wide enough, it is harder fix that in the field (but possible with pans)
 
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dtibbals said:
The Sony 200-600 is not a GM so I bet the Nikon is on par with the Sony version. I think they both will outperform the Canon offering.
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If you're talking about the 100-500, I doubt it. I recently used one on an R5 and I was blown away with the sharpness. From what I saw in my images, it could compete with the Nikon 180-400 in the same range! It's really outstanding, at least the copy I tried.
 
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Steve said:
If you're talking about the 100-500, I doubt it. I recently used one on an R5 and I was blown away with the sharpness. From what I saw in my images, it could compete with the Nikon 180-400 in the same range! It's really outstanding, at least the copy I tried.
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Good to hear. In the Sony world I would think the 100-400 GM is more in line with the 100-500 Canon.
 
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Steve said:
Maybe so, although I'd still give the Canon a slight edge. I tell ya, the sharpness looked nearly like what I'd get with the 600GM. I was very surprised. Wasn't a fan of the F/7.1 max aperture though!
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When do we get a debrief of the a1 in Costa Rica? I’m guessing you got a lot of trigger time with it.
 
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dtibbals said:
When do we get a debrief of the a1 in Costa Rica? I’m guessing you got a lot of trigger time with it.
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I'm planning a review - but I gotta test it in Africa at the end of the month before I do. Hopefully by the end of Sept I'll have it out. At that point, I'll have used the camera in the US, Costa Rica, and Botswana. If that doesn't qualify it as a comprehensive wildlife camera review, I don't know what will LOL!
 
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Steve said:
Maybe so, although I'd still give the Canon a slight edge. I tell ya, the sharpness looked nearly like what I'd get with the 600GM. I was very surprised. Wasn't a fan of the F/7.1 max aperture though!
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It is a stunning lens indeed - you couple that with the R5's AF and it is a killer combo.

Of course there is a price to pay, f:7.1, external zooming and that stupid limitation of the 1.4x extender that can only be physically fitted when the zoom is extended above 300mm which means you can't collapse the zoom all the way if the extender is on. But I don't know if you have tried the combo, it is impressive - I don't think I have seen an extender on zoom look that sharp and contrasty (is that even a word, english is not my first language).
 
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Steve said:
I'm planning a review - but I gotta test it in Africa at the end of the month before I do. Hopefully by the end of Sept I'll have it out. At that point, I'll have used the camera in the US, Costa Rica, and Botswana. If that doesn't qualify it as a comprehensive wildlife camera review, I don't know what will LOL!
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No offense Steve but I want to see Rose's review of the R5 - that's the one tempting me :)
 
Steve said:
I'm planning a review - but I gotta test it in Africa at the end of the month before I do. Hopefully by the end of Sept I'll have it out. At that point, I'll have used the camera in the US, Costa Rica, and Botswana. If that doesn't qualify it as a comprehensive wildlife camera review, I don't know what will LOL!
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I look forward to seeing your review. :cool: (y)
I will be receiving an A1 on Thursday but I only sprang for the 200-600 lens so hopefully it works out.
 
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NorthernFocus said:
I find it interesting that it looks like the Z9 is mounted on a 180-400 with FTZ adapter. Which suggests 1) no supertele S glass was available yet, and/or 2) AF performance through the FTZ is good/fast enough for high end sports photography
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I hope you are right about the FTZ adapter. The current performance of the FTZ/ZII combination with F mount lenses is a showstopper for me. Knowing how the Z9 performs with F mount lenses, such as the 500 f4 G lens I own, will be the "decider" for me. While it is likely that the 600S lens will perform "much better" I only need the 500 f4 G lens I own to work as well as it does today on my D500s for my level of photography.
 
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I have been looking close on that image of the Z9 with the 180-400 and I think the FTZ looks diffrent. It looks more round and don’t have that part that sticks down, if you get what I mean. Maybe it’s the angle of the photo or do we dare hope that it is a new version of the FTZ?
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Kjellis said:
I have been looking close on that image of the Z9 with the 180-400 and I think the FTZ looks diffrent. It looks more round and don’t have that part that sticks down, if you get what I mean. Maybe it’s the angle of the photo or do we dare hope that it is a new version of the FTZ?
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As Alexander Pope so eloquently stated "Hope Springs Eternal"
 
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Hut said:
That is not encouraging. I want a 200-600 lens if it is comparable to what Sony offers.
Lightning fast focus, dust proof, light weight and easy to carry hiking, great sharpness and overall quality.
im an enthusiast but willing to spend hard earned money on what works for me. Im no marketing genius but a Z mount 500 pf should be in the roadmap
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You might want to check out Jan Wegener’s review of the Sony 200-600. He compares it to Canon’s 100-500 and his comments on the Sony are a bit different to your impression.
 
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Steve said:
Maybe so, although I'd still give the Canon a slight edge. I tell ya, the sharpness looked nearly like what I'd get with the 600GM. I was very surprised. Wasn't a fan of the F/7.1 max aperture though!
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Thank you Steve for sharing your findings with the R5 and 100-500. I too had a very similar experience with the rental I had. The files were amazing and as long as I did my part, they required very little post processing. Just to confirm my findings, I rented the A1 with 200-600 again, and I agree the R5 with the copy of the 100-500 I rented produced amazing images. They were my favorite images I've taken all summer. This may sound silly, but I can't tell you the number of times I've looked at those pictures over and over again that's how much I fell in love with the quality. And to be honest, for me, the 7.1 and the issue with adding a tele weren't ideal but not deal breakers. I also was amazed at how much detail was retained even with excessive cropping. Not something I like to do, but wanted to test out. My issue is with my ability to follow the birds when using the ES 1st curtain over the ES since I have a lot of erratic action that often has vertical lines. All said, if that lens was available today, I would purchase it in a heartbeat!

I hope you, or your wife, will share more thoughts on the R5 with the 100-500. Many thanks to you for all that you do and to Backdoor Arts for sharing his experience and journey moving from the D500 with PFs to the R5 with the 100-500!
 
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JP Onstwedder said:
You might want to check out Jan Wegener’s review of the Sony 200-600. He compares it to Canon’s 100-500 and his comments on the Sony are a bit different to your impression.
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In which way? I have watched Jan's videos and what I took away is that he has 2 key issues (for him) with the Sony 200-600, but none related to what Hut mentioned.
His first issue is that he finds 100mm on the wide end more useful than 600mm on the long end - that's highly personal and very dependent on what you shoot (he doesn't shoot a lot of pictures of very small birds but likes environmental portraits of animals so his preference is quite logical).
His second issue is that the Sony has a much higher level of focus breathing, which reduces focal length at short distances therefore significantly cutting into the Sony's 600mm "advantage".

Otherwise, it's really small nuances between the lenses. The canon is lighter but the sony has 1/3rd stop brighter aperture at the long end. They both seem very sharp with maybe an edge for the canon, offset by the fact that the A1 has slightly higher resolution than the R5. Although Sony gets bashed for their color science it's actually the Canon R5 files that are off in Lightroom (for now, I assume an update to LR will eventually fix that) etc...

Don't get me wrong, I am leaning Canon over Sony but it's got nothing to do with the 200-600 vs 100-500 and I doubt it should be a determining factor for anybody. What's exciting though is that new Sigma 150-600 sport for E mount... best of both worlds or worst of both worlds?
 
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