Sony a1...Everything about the a1 thread...

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No, don't worry....and i'm glad my re-purchase has been reassuring :) I really liked the R5, especially the AF, but rolling shutter issues and a dissapointment in the RF600mm f4 lens which i found very soft, lead me to rethink...again. I'm sure much of my trouble with perfecting the Sony af is down to experience and time in the field....i for one am looking forward to Steves imminent set-up guide for further pointers.


What's wrong with the Canon RF 600 F4?
 
What's wrong with the Canon RF 600 F4?
I bought one ...tried it for a while, but it was far less sharp than my RF100-500.....remarkably so. It was very disappointing. It could be i had a bad copy, but i waited months for that one and would have had to wait several more for another copy.... I was going to replace the R5 anyway as i shoot fast action at fast shutter speeds and experienced rolling shutter effect issues..... overall i just gave up with that gear and decided to give Sony a go... Less or no rolling shutter, and good reports on the 600 f4. Its the AF differences that need some work on my part.... the R5 eye AF was very easy to lock on.... in my experience less work than the Sony at this early stage in my working with it.... I expect to improve my understanding of how to best use it over the coming months.
 
Sony 200-600mm OSS Lens
OSS On or OFF ?
Mode 1, 2 or 3 ?

I have been mostly leaving it in Mode 1 but off when the shutter speed is over 1/1000, I haven't noticed any issues but I might be missing something

I think it depends on the user and how you hold it, for me consistency is poor with OSS1 , I was using OSS2 with my A9ii but mainly use OSS3 with the A1 , it gives me best results . Over 1/1600 I switch it off
 
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Z9 user here! For me, this pic is pretty good considering the ISO.

Its not the ISO that impressed me but the low shutter speed of 1/1250 for a peregrine falcon in poor light flying close by the front of a building, usually 1/1600 is the best I can get with my D850 and the percentage of keepers is much lower than the A1 .
This one was at ISO4000 but faster shutter speed

_DSC4915 by leon kirkbride, on Flickr
 
I grabbed a few shots of this dipper flying past with a fish and just picked a few that had a little light on its chest as it flew past , it was low down in a river under tree cover .
I like the 200-600 but noticed that f6.3 is challenging in the UK so usually around 1/1250-2500 for faster moving birds (would prefer higher speed ). I still have some Nikon glass 300mm f2.8 and 200-500 that I use with my D850 .
Now looking at possible Z9 500mm PF or stick with the A1 200-600 and go for a 600mm f4 or maybe even 400mm f2.8 after selling my Nikon stuff although the last two options would be much more expensive .
I do like the A1 though , love the customisation and AF so will be looking forward to seeing Geoff's and Steves findings

_LTK2614 by leon kirkbride, on Flickr
 
Its not the ISO that impressed me but the low shutter speed of 1/1250 for a peregrine falcon in poor light flying close by the front of a building, usually 1/1600 is the best I can get with my D850 and the percentage of keepers is much lower than the A1 .
This one was at ISO4000 but faster shutter speed

_DSC4915 by leon kirkbride, on Flickr
Great shot!! Do you think the difference you are seeing regarding your shutter speed might be related to not having a mirror/shutter causing vibration or maybe slightly better panning from the blackout free EVF?
 
I feel there is something to switching to OSS 3 or OFF when using the 200-600 with the A1. This is similar to how the much maligned A7RIV/200-600 misbehaved. However, the A7RIV was a more serious issue and in all my testing getting away from OSS 1 was the most effective option to dial in that combo. With the 600GM I leave it on OSS 1 unless I remember to shut it off when doing really erratic BIF like swallows. I don't find any issue with OSS on the A1 with the 600GM.

Saying that, I also shoot the 200-600 on A1 in Mode 1 a lot of the time and don't bother switching OSS and most of the time it seems fine...but I still think the critical sharpness may show an improvement in OSS 3 or OFF once SS is up enough with the 200-600 on A1. Yet this is nowhere near the A7RIV issue.
 
That pigeon is toast... Amazing pic...
Thanks , just wish the 200-600 motor was quicker to grab , one of the reasons I'm interested in the Z9 500mm PF , the 600mm F4 GM would be great with the A1 but they are physically larger and it makes handling for these fast hunters tricky . Usually can take several hours of waiting to see them so you get one chance , sometimes the 200-600 is a little too late to grab
 
Great shot!! Do you think the difference you are seeing regarding your shutter speed might be related to not having a mirror/shutter causing vibration or maybe slightly better panning from the blackout free EVF?
Definitely! both of those things help a lot , I now mainly have the EVF set to Hi+ for these birds , seems to be better when panning across things like this old building
 
Oh crap, I just added the grip as well. Hmmmmmm. Again, it happened once in a 5 hour trekking day. Not earth shattering but still concerning. Not sure if we have a way to report to Sony. Btw, Sony. Your new a7iv has bird eye tracking in video and your flash ship a1 doesnt Get on the ball
Yeah.The video AF in A1 is disappointing.It strugged to get initial focus even whene the subjects were just at around 10 ft & it took nearly 3 seconds to AF the two small birds in ok lighting conditions
 
I feel there is something to switching to OSS 3 or OFF when using the 200-600 with the A1. This is similar to how the much maligned A7RIV/200-600 misbehaved. However, the A7RIV was a more serious issue and in all my testing getting away from OSS 1 was the most effective option to dial in that combo. With the 600GM I leave it on OSS 1 unless I remember to shut it off when doing really erratic BIF like swallows. I don't find any issue with OSS on the A1 with the 600GM.

Saying that, I also shoot the 200-600 on A1 in Mode 1 a lot of the time and don't bother switching OSS and most of the time it seems fine...but I still think the critical sharpness may show an improvement in OSS 3 or OFF once SS is up enough with the 200-600 on A1. Yet this is nowhere near the A7RIV issue.
I have A7RIV and A1. Im just hearing about the 200-600 issues with the RIV. Eck! I have a 600mm f4. If I understand correctly this would best set up for bird trip next week for rushing grebes, flying pelicans and other smaller most likely perched birds

A1 plus 2-6, mode 3?
RIV plus 600mm plus 1.4, mode?

If put the 2-6 on RIV, use mode 3?

I was a Nikon shooter and just made the switch. Ive managed to customize the cameras and have tried a couple of times with egrets. Tracking just blows me away. Still, a lonnng way to go to proficiency so all tips appreciated!
 
I purchased the pdf version of setup from mark smith. This is what he recommends. I hope to get out possibly later today or tomorrow to try it out.
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I have A7RIV and A1. Im just hearing about the 200-600 issues with the RIV. Eck! I have a 600mm f4. If I understand correctly this would best set up for bird trip next week for rushing grebes, flying pelicans and other smaller most likely perched birds

A1 plus 2-6, mode 3?
RIV plus 600mm plus 1.4, mode?

If put the 2-6 on RIV, use mode 3?

I was a Nikon shooter and just made the switch. Ive managed to customize the cameras and have tried a couple of times with egrets. Tracking just blows me away. Still, a lonnng way to go to proficiency so all tips appreciated!
2-6 on RIV use mode 3 or OFF if you get your SS up to 1/1600 or faster.
2-6 on A1...see how it goes...I've used mode 1 a lot without really noticing an issue but sometimes I feel OSS3/OFF helps a little bit.
 
I have to add a negative here. Something I ran into and someone else I know ran into was when using say bird eye af and it sticks to the eye and the bird flys away the focus point is stuck where the bird last was. And won’t refocus even if recomposing and re activate bbf. Turn camera off and back on all normal again. Happened twice last weekend. Note. It’s was around 18 deg outside.
This happened to me today number of times & my fw is the latest 1.2. I switched off & on & did miss few shots
 
Was out today using the 200-600 with OSS2 and image stabilisation in menu set to manual 600mm , can't say I noticed a big difference so far but will keep trying it in manual and auto . I also tried OSS1 again, definitely don't like that one so will keep trying both OSS2 and 3 . I do think OSS2 maybe better than 3 for perched stuff especially if you struggle to hold none tracking small focus area on the bird .

Since installing FW1.2 when it was just released I've only had a couple of times I had to remove battery .
First time was a few weeks ago eye AF locked on a bird and was stuck in same place even if you moved about off the bird . Soon as I let go of tracking green box disappeared , if I pressed tracking again it grabbed the eye and stayed in same place until letting go of tracking . I removed battery and put back in, powered up it was fine and tracked the eye as normal .
Second time was the other day , I put in a fresh charged battery and powered up , it failed to read either of my cards and gave message unable to read cards , re-insert . I removed battery and put back in, powered it up and it was fine .

The only other thing I find annoying is when photographing birds in reeds especially if it lands on a bullrush in those reeds (not as bad as my A9ii) . If I'm using flex spot small no tracking the focus sometimes goes onto the reeds and seems to just ignore the bullrush even if the bullrush is in middle of EVF . If I do the usual point at floor and back at bullrush the focus is straight on the bird/bullrush . Since FW1.2 I seem to get this more often although it could be me .
Apart from this I enjoy using the A1 , the customisation is brilliant . I would love to know how well the A1 200-600 compares against Z9 500mm PF . I've tried my friends Z7ii 500mm PF , obviously not a fair comparison especially for fast moving smaller birds or faster BIF
 
Was out today using the 200-600 with OSS2 and image stabilisation in menu set to manual 600mm , can't say I noticed a big difference so far but will keep trying it in manual and auto . I also tried OSS1 again, definitely don't like that one so will keep trying both OSS2 and 3 . I do think OSS2 maybe better than 3 for perched stuff especially if you struggle to hold none tracking small focus area on the bird .

Since installing FW1.2 when it was just released I've only had a couple of times I had to remove battery .
First time was a few weeks ago eye AF locked on a bird and was stuck in same place even if you moved about off the bird . Soon as I let go of tracking green box disappeared , if I pressed tracking again it grabbed the eye and stayed in same place until letting go of tracking . I removed battery and put back in, powered up it was fine and tracked the eye as normal .
Second time was the other day , I put in a fresh charged battery and powered up , it failed to read either of my cards and gave message unable to read cards , re-insert . I removed battery and put back in, powered it up and it was fine .

The only other thing I find annoying is when photographing birds in reeds especially if it lands on a bullrush in those reeds (not as bad as my A9ii) . If I'm using flex spot small no tracking the focus sometimes goes onto the reeds and seems to just ignore the bullrush even if the bullrush is in middle of EVF . If I do the usual point at floor and back at bullrush the focus is straight on the bird/bullrush . Since FW1.2 I seem to get this more often although it could be me .
Apart from this I enjoy using the A1 , the customisation is brilliant . I would love to know how well the A1 200-600 compares against Z9 500mm PF . I've tried my friends Z7ii 500mm PF , obviously not a fair comparison especially for fast moving smaller birds or faster BIF

Great info. I’ve never had to remove thebattery when something went wonky but did have to shut the camera off and back on. When I want a critter to focus on but is in the bush or branches I use single spot. I haven’t found that the af can find the bird all by itself
 
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Great info. I’ve never had to remove thebattery when something went wonky but did have to shut the camera off and back on. When I want a critter to focus on but is in the bush or branches I use single spot. I haven’t found that the af can find the bird all by itself

It only seems to be in reeds I sometimes get issues , I mainly use flex spot small set to half shutter press and zone set to AF-ON
 
Am I crazy for being amazed every time Bird Eye AF does it’s thing?
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I must admit when eye AF works it works extremely good . If sometimes EAF grabs the wrong part I tap a button that turns off eye priority and rely on flex spot S .
I need to find a quick workaround for when the focus grabs close background and not refocusing quick on a bird on a twig in the centre , I missed more shots today . It still only does this for close shots
 
I must admit when eye AF works it works extremely good . If sometimes EAF grabs the wrong part I tap a button that turns off eye priority and rely on flex spot S .
I need to find a quick workaround for when the focus grabs close background and not refocusing quick on a bird on a twig in the centre , I missed more shots today . It still only does this for close shots
I have the same issue. Haven’t settled on the magic cure yet
 
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