Checking Camera gear at airport in a hard case.

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I'm flying to Hawaii in two weeks and I've decided to not check any luggage and carry it all on the plane. That is two bags that will fit in the overhead bins. I'm taking my Nikon Z9 with a 180-600mm, a 100-400mm and a 24-120mm which will be attached to the Z9. Plus all the other stuff like an extra battery and charger etc. I'm also packing my computer in the same bag, an expensive Mac Book Pro. This will be a valuable bag that I don't trust to the airline baggage handlers: Delta. The last time I flew Delta on a photography trip to Yellowstone Park in January, Delta lost my bag, it turned out it never left my home of Cleveland Ohio, and I was without cold weather gear and most of my camera equipment for 5 days until one guy finally found my bag. He said i have your bag sitting here in my office do you want it? Guess what i said. Except for the last guy, Delta was of no help whatsoever. All they did was lie to me. Can I expect problems with TSA?
 
Keep in mind that most airlines attempt to limit you to one bag in the overhead and one "personal item" underneath the seat in front of you, except that there is no room under the seat in front of you because it's full of electronic equipment. United boards by group. Unless you're in one of the first groups, you will likely find the overheads full. Don't know the process for any other airline, other than it's designed to make you feel like a Greyhound bus would be a better choice :)
 
I have always carried on my gear, but I have a trip coming up where I might not be able to do that. Has anyone had any experience checking their gear in a hard case, like a Pelican?
I carry on the camera gear and use pelican cases for the lighting (with arirtag).
anything not carry on with a zipper is easily robbed with a pen without you knowing until later ..🦘
 
I'm flying to Hawaii in two weeks and I've decided to not check any luggage and carry it all on the plane. That is two bags that will fit in the overhead bins. I'm taking my Nikon Z9 with a 180-600mm, a 100-400mm and a 24-120mm which will be attached to the Z9. Plus all the other stuff like an extra battery and charger etc. I'm also packing my computer in the same bag, an expensive Mac Book Pro. This will be a valuable bag that I don't trust to the airline baggage handlers: Delta. The last time I flew Delta on a photography trip to Yellowstone Park in January, Delta lost my bag, it turned out it never left my home of Cleveland Ohio, and I was without cold weather gear and most of my camera equipment for 5 days until one guy finally found my bag. He said i have your bag sitting here in my office do you want it? Guess what i said. Except for the last guy, Delta was of no help whatsoever. All they did was lie to me. Can I expect problems with TSA?
Boarding early in one of the groups that has priority generally helps. Delta has Comfort+ which is a step above the main cabin without costing you an arm and a leg, and they board a bit early and have dedicated overhead space.

Good luck,

--Ken
 
I'm flying to Hawaii in two weeks and I've decided to not check any luggage and carry it all on the plane. That is two bags that will fit in the overhead bins. I'm taking my Nikon Z9 with a 180-600mm, a 100-400mm and a 24-120mm which will be attached to the Z9. Plus all the other stuff like an extra battery and charger etc. I'm also packing my computer in the same bag, an expensive Mac Book Pro. This will be a valuable bag that I don't trust to the airline baggage handlers: Delta. The last time I flew Delta on a photography trip to Yellowstone Park in January, Delta lost my bag, it turned out it never left my home of Cleveland Ohio, and I was without cold weather gear and most of my camera equipment for 5 days until one guy finally found my bag. He said i have your bag sitting here in my office do you want it? Guess what i said. Except for the last guy, Delta was of no help whatsoever. All they did was lie to me. Can I expect problems with TSA?
I have some expensive ideas:
-buy a seat for an assistant, have them also carry on but then you have someone to haul your Sh!t around LOL (for all my commercial shoots I always had an assistant and that aspect was a bonus. We both carry on all the camera related stuff and lighting gets checked)
-SHIP all your stuff there, insured of course, arrives at your lodging before you even leave the ground.
-rent gear and have there be the delivery location.
 
I have some expensive ideas:
-buy a seat for an assistant, have them also carry on but then you have someone to haul your Sh!t around LOL (for all my commercial shoots I always had an assistant and that aspect was a bonus. We both carry on all the camera related stuff and lighting gets checked)
-SHIP all your stuff there, insured of course, arrives at your lodging before you even leave the ground.
-rent gear and have there be the delivery location.
My version of this is that I usually bring my wife on my trips and she carries my big lens as her carry on.
 
I carry on the camera gear and use pelican cases for the lighting (with arirtag).
anything not carry on with a zipper is easily robbed with a pen without you knowing
IMO not entirely accurate depending on whether you can secure(?) the zipper tabs in one place on the bag. On my Lowepro bags (latterly the Flip side design) I have always used a padlock to retain the tabs to the small loop at the top of the bag.

By retaining them like that any 'pen attack' on the zip will/should be immediately obvious as the reason such a method works, is that the thief cannot use the zips self repair action of running the locked but not retained tabs back & forth to close the zip again.

PS in my usage a thief could cut that small loop but again that should or would be obvious.
until later ..🦘
 
I would be careful with power bricks in checked luggage. They don’t want batteries to be checked and once I had to go with a service person across the terminal to collect a brick my wife left in her suitcase. Just a small one for a cell phone.
also airlines will not cover the cost of valuable gear, same goes for guitars which I have to check quite often in a Calton case. I always carry my camera and cpu on and make sure the planes can handle my equipment in onboard.
losing my guitar would be a major drag but losing my camera gear would be worse. As I am a professional musician my guitars are insured.
 
In the last couple of years I have twice experienced lost baggage, once on a flight from Toronto and once from Frankfurt. In the first instance, my soft bag was eventually returned in a large plastic bag, totally trashed, with virtually all the contents destroyed. In the second instance my bag turned up over a week later, but undamaged.

I never put anything valuable in checked luggage. On a journey to a photo destination, "valuable" includes items needed for photography, including cables, chargers, power bricks and card readers.
 
FWIW, I used to travel for my employer quite a bit with a Pelican case on both smaller prop planes and larger commercial planes with no trouble. The Pelican case contained a specialty scientific camera that never left my sight. We would ship everything else in lockable shipping trunks via FedEx air. Those trunks took a beating, but the Pelican case was always safe with me. Today, I carry my personal gear in the largest size roller bags most larger airlines allow (Delta is 22” x 14” x 9”) and have never been questioned or delayed as a result.
 
Most of my gear fits in carry-on in an F-stop XL Pro ICU. That includes a little space for personal items.
= Z8, 600 PF, 2 shorter zooms, accs.
A 100-400mm goes in a checked F-stop pack.
 
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It is a good idea to have some gear and weight in a bag that will qualify as a "personal item" by the airline.
Maximum size bag to fit under seat in most planes is:

United 757-200 plane under-the-seat depth of 17”, height 10.5”, width of 20”

PenAir - 16"L x 16"W x 9"H - now deservedly out of business

Delta - space under seats in Delta 757-300 is 20” wide, 17” deep and about 11 inches tall. Delta mandates that baggage brought into a plane's cabin cannot be more than 22 x 14 x 9 or 45 linear inches.

American - American 737-800 plane has dimensions of 20 x 17 x 11.75 (tight for 18L) American does not require baggage to be a certain size to fit under a seat, however it does mandate that baggage that goes under a seat must be 45 linear inches or less. 18L is 38 linear inches and Nagano is 34 inches.

Continental - Continental 737-800/900 model planes have a little less space available directly under the seat, but the airline allows for baggage that is a little larger, thus causing it to potentially protrude slightly from the front section under the seat. Continental allows carry-on luggage to be as large as 51 linear inches. Larger luggage may fit better in an overhead bin.

Southwest - Southwest Airlines flights may see less carry-on luggage than other airlines due to the fact that Southwest does not charge customers to check their luggage. The space under Southwest seats in a 737-800 are 19 inches deep, 19 inches wide and about 9.5 inches tall. Southwest carry-on baggage may not be larger than 24 x 16 x 10, but if you are bringing carry-on baggage that large, you shouldn't expect to be able to place it under the seat.

I have found in my own experience that the Bataflae 18L backpack works as a personal item piece of luggage. Any bag is likely to be a problem on many jets with the aisle seat that has a support bracket in the way.

We pay for either business class or premium coach to get early boarding on the aircraft. There are places where we have taken smaller aircraft to accommmodate our departure date for a trip and it turned out to be a mistake. We should have flown in a larger jet even if it meant arriving a day earlier than needed.

We put our clothing inside a checked Pelican Air 1615 that is 29.6 x 15.5 x 9.4 inches or 4312 cubic inches and with Exterior dimensions of 32.6 x 18.4 x 11.0" 14.1 lbs and has wheels and a pull-out handle. I put a couple of empty duffel bags inside as well. The first night at a destination the clothes go inside the duffel bags and then photo gear goes inside the Pelican. The Pelican becomes our room safe where we stay.

The lighter the case the more can be placed inside without exceeding the bag weight limit of the airline.

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Long enough to send tripods back inside
 
My primary concern about any checked piece of luggage is that it must be able to be opened by TSA. So you can use a TSA-approved lock to keep others out, but it still has to be able to be opened by them. I think a gate check might help, as would a nonstop flight if possible, and of course insurance for the worst case scenario.

Good luck,

--Ken
We had TSA locks on our luggage, and the personnel at Good Ol' LAX had no idea how to open them, and we had to unlock them. That strengthened my opinion that NOBODY should have to descend into Hell more tha twice in a Decade!:mad:
 
We had TSA locks on our luggage, and the personnel at Good Ol' LAX had no idea how to open them, and we had to unlock them. That strengthened my opinion that NOBODY should have to descend into Hell more tha twice in a Decade!:mad:
Perhaps it is just the staff who inspect checked luggage that have the universal TSA keys? Not sure, but I do believe that my checked, and TSA-locked, bags have been opened for inspection in years past. And out special hell was arriving back in the US through JFK. Snaking lines that never seemed to end.

--Ken
 
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