Delkin Power vs Delkin Black Cards?

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Hi folks, newbie here. I am getting a Nikon Z9 so I need two Type B cards. I am looking at 325 GB Delkin Black cards for continuous burst shoots, video is not my thing. On B&H website I saw two different Black cards for very different price:

1. $424.99, MFR #DCFXBBLK325,

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1702403-REG/delkin_devices_dcfxbblk325_325gb_black_cfexpress_type.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwysipBhBXEiwApJOcu_j64Ea38vvTn4RWjf1K1uJVwOmSaqdVsyChGQlkoQDOdFicmM474hoC4H8QAvD_BwE

2. $279.99, MFR #DCFXBB325,

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1785070-REG/delkin_devices_dcfxbb325_325gb_black_g4_cfexpress.html

I chatted with B&H this morning and was told the more expensive card is "faster and can withstand temperature extremes". I don't even see the more expensive one (MFR #DCFXBBLK325) on Delkin's website anymore.

I emailed Delkin to ask but no response yet. Can anyone clarify?

Thanks.
Your links didn't work for me but I believe the cheaper card is the new version (G4) and personally would buy that one. The speeds listed on the BH site are slightly faster (newer firmware) for the cheaper card. Amazing how much cheaper they are.
 
Hi folks, newbie here. I am getting a Nikon Z9 so I need two Type B cards. I am looking at 325 GB Delkin Black cards for continuous burst shoots, video is not my thing. On B&H website I saw two different Black cards for very different price:

1. $424.99, MFR #DCFXBBLK325,


2. $279.99, MFR #DCFXBB325,


I chatted with B&H this morning and was told the more expensive card is "faster and can withstand temperature extremes". I don't even see the more expensive one (MFR #DCFXBBLK325) on Delkin's website anymore.

I emailed Delkin to ask but no response yet. Can anyone clarify?

Thanks.
I've fixed the links - they should work now.

The cheaper card is the one you should get. It's the newer G4 version. The G4 cards are a little faster - and as noted, cheaper.

You can also look at the Delkin Power 650GB G4 card. It's not quite as fast as the Delkin Black 325 and does not carry 48 hour replacement coverage, but is nearly as fast and considerably cheaper even though the card is twice the size. The Delkin Power would make a good second card. 512 GB and smaller Delkin Power cards are slower, so while a good bit cheaper, you give up something in performance that could impact burst length and video.
 
Thank you very much, Ricardo and Eric! it appears that the B&H rep I chatted with this morning is not quite up to date with these Delkin cards. I am surprised B&H sells the older card at a much higher price than the G4 card.
 
Thank you very much, Ricardo and Eric! it appears that the B&H rep I chatted with this morning is not quite up to date with these Delkin cards. I am surprised B&H sells the older card at a much higher price than the G4 card.
I suspect it's based on their cost - but also keep in mind that some of these cards are sold in very large quantities. They might have a minimum order size of around 100 or more. The G4 version is brand new and was not readily available until the past month or so.
 
I suspect it's based on their cost - but also keep in mind that some of these cards are sold in very large quantities. They might have a minimum order size of around 100 or more. The G4 version is brand new and was not readily available until the past month or so.
Do you know Eric if the actual "flash memory" (or whatever it is called) for the Delkin black G4 cards is different than the prior version of these cards? Or if they run at the same temperature?
Thanks.
 
Do you know Eric if the actual "flash memory" (or whatever it is called) for the Delkin black G4 cards is different than the prior version of these cards? Or if they run at the same temperature?
Thanks.
I don't know the specifics, but my understanding is the Delkin Black CFExpress card was an upgrade from the prior version. I believe the memory and firmware were both updated. Temperature should not be an issue, and if it is a problem, it's probably from something other than the card. The Delkin Black as far as I know is the best card available based on in-camera testing. The others in the same range are ProGrade Cobalt and Lexar Diamond.
 
Just curious why the need to have such a large CF card? Or is it more about speed?

After every photo shoot I backup my images to an SSD drive and a second copy online. Once I do that, I format the card.

My current cards are the 256GB ProGrade which ha a speed of 1700/1400 (read/write).
 
Just curious why the need to have such a large CF card? Or is it more about speed?

After every photo shoot I backup my images to an SSD drive and a second copy online. Once I do that, I format the card.

My current cards are the 256GB ProGrade which ha a speed of 1700/1400 (read/write).
Speaking for myself, when I travel, I am tired, suffering time changes, etc and don't want to risk messing things up. So although I will periodically back up, would prefer just having all my photos (written to the Delkin black 512GB card in slot 1) and video (written to my 2TB Delkin Power card in slot 2) still in my camera (a Z9). When I got home from my last trip, I had about 2TB of photos and video! So all still on the cards plus backed up on an external hard drive. I know I shoot too much.
 
just depends on what you are doing. i shoot events and once i did max out my 650GB cards. from that perspective i would have much preferred the 1.3TB cards, but they were not available at the time i purchased.

also, if you're doing video
 
Just curious why the need to have such a large CF card? Or is it more about speed?

After every photo shoot I backup my images to an SSD drive and a second copy online. Once I do that, I format the card.

My current cards are the 256GB ProGrade which ha a speed of 1700/1400 (read/write).
There are a couple of reasons for a large card.

With the Z8 and Z9, you have the potential to shoot at much higher frame rates looking for perfect timing. In my equestrian work, I'd typically shoot a 3 frame burst as the rider crosses the jump. At 20 fps that probably turns into a 5-6 frame burst or more in order to capture the perfectly timed image. All but 1-2 of those are discarded but the burst is necessary. I have one event coming up in a couple of weeks that will have 70 riders and 4-5 photographed jumps - plus all the other things that go on with the day. Plus another 60 riders that are not jumping but will be photographed at each jump. If I had Auto Capture - which is expected for the Z8 - I would be adding additional bursts and could easily have another 3000 photos. Wildlife with fast action is similar. With burst shooting a morning could easily produce 5000 images in a peak location. Fast moving subjects like hummingbirds or insects on flowers can generate huge volumes of burst shooting at peak frame rate.

The other aspect is video. Increasingly video is an expected part of photography. 4k60p adds up in a hurry so a 1 TB card is going to handle about an hour of video.

Finally - these cards are much less expensive in larger sizes on a per GB basis. In the Delkin Power lineup, the speed is much faster with 650GB and larger cards than 512GB and lower. The incremental cost of a 1TB card was less than $100 compared to 650 GB. I ended up getting my card with a promotion for $349. I had paid $169 for a 128 GB card when I first went to CFExpress and the Delkin Power 1 TB card I got was double that for 8 times the capacity.
 
The video part makes sense assuming you are videoing for long periods of time.

I photo a lot also. Photographing shore birds I'll easily have several thousand shots after an evening. It's fun culling. I go out 4+ times a week photographing.

I shoot video, but my clips are usually shorter in length (30s to 1 min) for wildlife so while they are larger in size, they don't take up a ton of storage.

I got (2) 256GB cards for just over $200 last year- the ones I mentioned above. They were $260 for the pair and I got a $50 discount from B&H. I always call and ask for discounts on everything I purchase from them, and most times they give me one (maybe it's because of my spend there over the years).

I've never ran out of space shooting at 20fps using an empty 256GB card (I use the Z9) so I was just curious.

As I get into doing more and more videos, this might be an option for me.
 
With the Z9 shooting video at 4K 60p the data to be recorded is 750 MB per minute. A 650GB card (590GB when formatted) can hold 12 hours of recording inside the camera. I was using SSD and the Atomos recorder with my D850 at 4K 30p but with the Z9 there is not the integration (unlike Canon R5 C) for 4K, much less 8K, so one needs to capture to an internal card in the camera.
 
Just curious why the need to have such a large CF card? Or is it more about speed?

After every photo shoot I backup my images to an SSD drive and a second copy online. Once I do that, I format the card.

My current cards are the 256GB ProGrade which ha a speed of 1700/1400 (read/write).
Shooting all day events, or on trips having larger cards means I can worry less about backing everything up constantly and running out of card space.
 
Try doing a full format using the Z9 firm 4.10. Do one full format to clean out the card, then do another full format on the cleaned card and count the seconds. That should give you an idea of the write speed. Do that and report to us. It would be an interesting, academic, comparison.
My observations on average shooting time to fill the buffer using a Z9 lossless compressed Raw (some older cards from DSLR days)

- Delkin Black 325 - 3.65 sec.
- Prograde Cobalt 325 - 3.55 sec
- Delkin Power 128 - 3.45 sec
- Delkin Power 512 - 2.0 sec. (Not sure why this is slower than the 128 Power but this is an average of 5 tests)
- ProGrade Gold 128 1.5 sec.

- XQD Sony G 128 - 1.6 sec. (As fast as the slowest CF Express)
 
Try doing a full format using the Z9 firm 4.10. Do one full format to clean out the card, then do another full format on the cleaned card and count the seconds. That should give you an idea of the write speed. Do that and report to us. It would be an interesting, academic, comparison.
Also keep in mind that several of the cards listed are no longer available or the specs have changed with new versions. The Delkin Power cards are now mainly G4 versions. The G4 Delkin Power cards are relatively slow but inexpensive up to 512GB, but at 650 GB and larger, they are almost the speed of the Delkin Black and a bit cheaper.

These cards are constantly being updated with new components and specification. Don't make any assumptions without having full details on which cards are referenced and the related specs.
 
Try doing a full format using the Z9 firm 4.10. Do one full format to clean out the card, then do another full format on the cleaned card and count the seconds. That should give you an idea of the write speed. Do that and report to us. It would be an interesting, academic, comparison.
I don't plan to repeat the tests I did. Cards were "full" formatted before each test. I did not do a second reformatting. This was meant to be a comparison only. I do not double format between shoots so I followed my standard procedure. I was on firmware 4.01. Nothing in the release notes indicates that write speeds would be any different after firmware 4.10 installed. In the real world, I reach a full buffer maybe 2 or 3 times in a year using the faster cards, so it is really a non-issue for me. The slower cards are most often in a Z6ii doing portrait work where write speed has no impact.
 
Also keep in mind that several of the cards listed are no longer available or the specs have changed with new versions. The Delkin Power cards are now mainly G4 versions. The G4 Delkin Power cards are relatively slow but inexpensive up to 512GB, but at 650 GB and larger, they are almost the speed of the Delkin Black and a bit cheaper.

These cards are constantly being updated with new components and specification. Don't make any assumptions without having full details on which cards are referenced and the related specs.
My questions about the Delkin Black G4's spec, was because I ordered from an on-line promotion from a reputable official Nikon dealer, a Delkin Black 325GB card specifically mentioned as regularly $469.99 on sale for $279.99 or a 40% special sale. Seemed fair, as B&H sometimes as such deals. Hence I was expecting a Black card as specifically described by the sale.

What I received was a Black G4 which was last week, $189.99 on B&H's Deal Zone . So I overpaid ~$90 for a fake promotion/sale.

Thus I was wondering how this cheaper card compared to the advertised 'Black' I was expecting, as it seemed slow, at least in the Z9's formating function (12 seconds), compared to the 325GB Cobalts (2-3 seconds) which are my standard cards.

I just checked B&H now (10/3/2023), and the Black G4 is $279.99 ! What I paid for the card !!. It should be noted that Delkin has NO written specs for the Blacks. Delkin is probably not an ISO 9001 company (I'll verify later).

So I got a fair normal street price, but scammed in the expectations. That store is now on my "do not buy from ... " list.

I'm not unhappy with the Delkin G4, just mentally p*ssed. Bear in mind I have to earn $120 BEFORE TAXES to get $90 in my pocket. Hence a $120 scam and loss. My wife does say I'm a penny pincher <vbg>
 
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What specs are you wanting?
Comparison between what was advertised, a Delkin Black officially labelled "DCFXBBLK325", and what I received, Delkin Black G4 officially labelled "DCFXBB325". So TWO spec sheets with normalized / comparable data.

A street retail price of Black $469.99 vs Black G4 $279.99. Not withstanding the occasional sales/promo/discounts.
 
Comparison between what was advertised, a Delkin Black officially labelled "DCFXBBLK325", and what I received, Delkin Black G4 officially labelled "DCFXBB325". So TWO spec sheets with normalized data.

A street retail price of Black $469.99 vs Black G4 $279.99. Not withstanding the occasional sales/promo/discounts.

Main difference is
Min Sustained Write Speed: G4 1450 MB/s Regular Black 1530 MB/s Minimum
 
Main difference is
Min Sustained Write Speed: G4 1450 MB/s Regular Black 1530 MB/s Minimum
Yes, that maybe true, but it is not a spec sheet, duly released by the fabricant. Furthermore, what you mention is not normalized. One is "min sustained", the other is just "minimum". These need to be defined. It's a shell game. What are the specs used for each.
 
Yes, that maybe true, but it is not a spec sheet, duly released by the fabricant. Furthermore, what you mention is not normalized. On is min sustained, the other is just minimum. These need to be defined. It's a shell game. What are the specs used for each.
Min Sustained Write Speed: G4 1450 MB/s
Min Sustained Write Speed: non-G4 1530 MB/s
 
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