One for both. Two machines allowed.
And if you change computers, you can put it on a new one if you just deactivate it on the old one first.
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One for both. Two machines allowed.
Exactly. At current pricing levels, the subscription is not any more expensive than buying new versions every year, and thus far Adobe has done a good job with adding worthwhile features in a timely manner. Really has worked well.Right - exactly but as I recall the price difference wasn't much compared to upgrading every couple of years. Now you get upgrades immediately.
Well, it's good until someone sends you a Word or Excel document that blows up in Libre Office. Or you spend an afternoon keeping it from blowing up.FWIW - PC users don't need Microsoft Office either. Libre software is free and just as good as Office. I've been using Libre for years.
It's now even better than that; if you hop on computer #3 it will tell you which two are authorized and ask you which one you want to deauthorize. You can hop around like a bunny in a flower field now.And if you change computers, you can put it on a new one if you just deactivate it on the old one first.
A new reasonably fast computer is lots cheaper than a decent camera. 2014 is a long time ago in the computer world.I am now thinking of going the other way - trash Adobe. My custom built PC is now 10 years old and the last two iterations of 2024 just hogged my resources so I couldn't do anything. This has been happening on every new release since about 2020. I am thinking they are expecting US to do their beta testing. I have gone back to the last update of 2022 which was one of the most stable editions, at least for me, for the time being. I know I am loosing out on the new stuff but my graphics card seems to be the bottle neck and I can't seem to find an upgrade that is compatible with the motherboard. I am thinking about a new machine but they are sooooo damn expensive now.
I, too, VERY reluctantly felt the need to start using Adobe Lightroom Classic (LrC) since Apple dragged its feet for 9 months in supporting the Z8 RAW format! I had been using the FREE Apple "Photos" app for years for both light editing and, more importantly, cataloging all of my bird & wildlife photos. For more advanced editing I use Affinity Photo, which is similar to Adobe Photoshop, and you can buy it outright for $70 USD.When Adobe made Photoshop subscription only, I swore I'd never succumb to the subscription model of software. I had CS4 and that would work fine for me. I also bought the Topaz suite, which was a one-time purchase and I was set. I'd use Sony's free software to convert my RAW files into TIFs, use CS4 to process the TIFs, use Topaz to denoise and sharpen, then take them back to CS4 and turn the TIF's into jpegs for the internet. For a two-week trip in Yellowstone, it would take me nearly two weeks to process the files and I'd usually only process a couple hundred out of four or five thousand.
Then I went on a group trip to Sax-Zim in January and the guy I was rooming with had Lightroom and Photoshop and showed me what that stuff can do nowadays and...
Shoot. I did it. I subscribed for a year at least.
Now I'm going back through images from the last 4 or 5 years to see what I could have done if I'd had it the whole time.
For another $20 bucks...how many times you change computers that you have worry about this "additional" charge?BTW, you can still buy a one-machine license for Microsoft Office that doesn't require a subscription. Downside is, it's only good for that computer and if you change machines, you have to buy it again.
For another $20 bucks...how many times you change computers that you have worry about this "additional" charge?
We spend 5, 10, 20 grand on photo equipment but balk at 20 or 100 bucks for software.
Scratching my head, you do you I guess...
It wasn't the price I objected to, it was the concept of subscription-based software. I still don't like it.
If you shoot film you don't need a computer or softwareI am now thinking of going the other way - trash Adobe. My custom built PC is now 10 years old and the last two iterations of 2024 just hogged my resources so I couldn't do anything. This has been happening on every new release since about 2020. I am thinking they are expecting US to do their beta testing. I have gone back to the last update of 2022 which was one of the most stable editions, at least for me, for the time being. I know I am loosing out on the new stuff but my graphics card seems to be the bottle neck and I can't seem to find an upgrade that is compatible with the motherboard. I am thinking about a new machine but they are sooooo damn expensive now.
I agree. PS/LR will be the only subscription I ever buy, and if Gimp ever gets competitive, that will also stop. Long way to go for them, but I would love to just use a Linux PC with a killer photo app and just get all the hands out of my pockets. I must be getting old.I first started using Photoshop in 1986. I, too, was horrified when Adobe went to a subscription format. I became less and less horrified over time when I realized I didn't have to pay several hundred dollars every couple of years for a handful of CDs with updates that were out of date the minute I installed them, and when CC became so seamless that I receive automatic updates every few days that I don't have to mess with. I still maintain the entire Adobe subscription, which includes virtually every Adobe product, costing me about $60 per month. My wife, as a CPA, has to spend well over $3000 every year for her software, and it is no fun at all (to me, anyway). Since post-production is such a major part of all still and video work these days, I consider this a real bargain for all the pleasure it gives me. Heck, it costs me over $100 just to fill up my pickup truck. And my truck doesn't process photos worth beans.
I still refuse, however, to pay Microsoft for a subscription. Apple's free apps do everything Excel, Word, Powerpoint, etc. can do, also allowing me to export to MS Office formats for my PC-loving clients. For better or worse, the subscription structure is here to stay. Some are good value. Many are not.
If you shoot film you don't need a computer or software
It's a matter of the value provided. I pay my internet provider bill every single month because it is well worth the cost. Same for the electric bill. Free/cheap is great ... but you gotta pay for higher quality. Otherwise, nobody will build the higher quality product. I love my Nikon 500 pf lens. But it cost me. The profit motive has its advantages.I agree. PS/LR will be the only subscription I ever buy, and if Gimp ever gets competitive, that will also stop. Long way to go for them, but I would love to just use a Linux PC with a killer photo app and just get all the hands out of my pockets. I must be getting old.
I don't drink coffee.Best buy out there. Give up one cup of fancy coffee per month and you've paid for it.
FWIW - PC users don't need Microsoft Office either. Libre software is free and just as good as Office. I've been using Libre for years.
How many of you rent or lease your camera gear; I'm not talking about a short-term rental, I'm asking about long term? Anybody? Then why would you be so willing to subscribe (rent) software? Subscribing to software is just like leasing a car -- much more expensive in the long run. I've been willing to make one-time purchases of Affinity and Topaz software, but subscribe? Not me!
I don't think that a valid analogy. It doesn't matter if I'm "buying" or "leasing" if the feature set works for me at the pricepoint I have to pay, I'll happily pay. I'll correct my previous post: lunch today was about 1.5 times the monthly subscription price.How many of you rent or lease your camera gear; I'm not talking about a short-term rental, I'm asking about long term? Anybody? Then why would you be so willing to subscribe (rent) software? Subscribing to software is just like leasing a car -- much more expensive in the long run. I've been willing to make one-time purchases of Affinity and Topaz software, but subscribe? Not me!
I too have used Libre for years with no problems. It's free and there are regular updates. We have it on two computers and I also used it on my office computer before I retired.