I’d miss the walking & getting out in nature, nothing can replicate that.
End of photography ? Do you agree ? 😊
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For me a photo ceases to be a photo when a significant part of the content is not photographically created.
I really enjoy the photography of Glyn Dewis. Just have look what he has done with this technology in only a few days. With bit more practice I think he could get quite creative !!! ??? *** CREATIVE! - - - - Now THERE'S a word!
How do you use AI in trip planning? I am intrigued.
Using ChatGPTAI I ask a series of questions with the goal of finding the best places to see and photograph.
For example:
- What are the top photographic attractions of New River Gorge National Park?
- Where are the best waterfalls to visit in New River Gorge National Park?
- What are the top 10 photo attractions in New Mexico?
- Which Pueblos in New Mexico offer the most interesting photographic opportunities?
- What are the top 10 scenic attractions near Roan Mountain, Tennessee?
Each of these questions or similar variations produced very solid results. I certainly would not expect something that is perfect, but in each case it provided a short statement on why each was noteworthy. I can put these on a map or investigate further.
For example, on the last question about Roan Mountain, here is the result:
"Near Roan Mountain, there are several scenic attractions worth exploring. Here are ten notable ones:
- Roan Mountain State Park: Explore the park's lush forests, hiking trails, and enjoy panoramic views of the surrounding mountains.
- Roan Mountain: Hike to the summit and witness breathtaking views from one of the highest peaks in the region.
- Rhododendron Gardens: Experience the vibrant display of blooming rhododendron flowers in late spring and early summer at Roan Mountain's famous gardens.
- Appalachian Trail: Roan Mountain is traversed by the iconic Appalachian Trail, offering stunning vistas and opportunities for long-distance hiking.
- Carvers Gap: Located along the Tennessee-North Carolina border, Carvers Gap provides access to the Appalachian Trail and offers picturesque views of the surrounding mountains.
- Grassy Ridge Bald: Hike to the summit of Grassy Ridge Bald for panoramic views and the opportunity to witness the stunning display of blooming rhododendron and wildflowers.
- Elk River Falls: Located near Elk Park, North Carolina, the Elk River Falls is a scenic waterfall cascading into a picturesque swimming hole.
- Linville Falls: Venture a bit further south into North Carolina to visit Linville Falls, a beautiful waterfall with multiple viewpoints accessible via hiking trails.
- Mount Mitchell: Travel to the highest peak east of the Mississippi River, Mount Mitchell, located in North Carolina's Black Mountains. Enjoy stunning views and hiking trails.
- Blue Ridge Parkway: Accessible from various points near Roan Mountain, the Blue Ridge Parkway offers breathtaking scenic drives, overlooks, and access to numerous hiking trails and attractions along its route.
Here is another one - about visiting the Okefenokee: What is the best way to visit the Okefenokee Swamp?
The Okefenokee Swamp, located in Georgia, is a unique and fascinating natural area that offers a variety of ways to explore its beauty. Here's a recommended approach for visiting the Okefenokee Swamp:
- Boat Tours: Taking a guided boat tour is one of the best ways to experience the swamp. Knowledgeable guides can provide insights into the flora, fauna, and history of the area. They can navigate the waterways, allowing you to observe wildlife like alligators, turtles, wading birds, and other swamp inhabitants up close. Several tour operators offer guided boat tours of various durations.
- Canoe or Kayak: Renting a canoe or kayak provides a more immersive and independent experience. Paddling through the swamp's calm waters allows you to appreciate its tranquility and observe wildlife at your own pace. Make sure to obtain maps, follow safety guidelines, and be aware of any regulations or restricted areas.
- Boardwalk Trails: The Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge offers several boardwalk trails that provide access to the swamp's unique ecosystems without requiring a boat. The 0.75-mile Chesser Island Boardwalk is a popular choice, leading through cypress forests and providing opportunities to spot wildlife and admire the scenic surroundings.
- Camping: Consider camping within the Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge to fully immerse yourself in the swamp's environment. Several designated campsites are available, providing an opportunity to experience the swamp's nighttime ambiance and observe nocturnal wildlife.
- Visitor Centers and Interpretive Programs: Start your visit at one of the visitor centers, such as the Okefenokee National Wildlife Refuge Visitor Center or the Stephen C. Foster State Park Visitor Center. These centers offer exhibits, displays, and educational materials about the swamp's ecology, history, and wildlife. Check if there are any scheduled interpretive programs or ranger-led activities during your visit.
By combining boat tours, canoeing/kayaking, hiking boardwalk trails, camping, and educational programs, you can have a well-rounded and memorable experience exploring the enchanting Okefenokee Swamp.
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Absolutely true.........many B graders in our club striving to one day becoming A graders are already intimidated by people with better gear, then there intimidated by members with good editing skills, and now AI !!!!!!!!, now some A graders are feeling enough pressure by some skillful editors, but now AI is pressuring them.
This is real, its an issue we are trying to deal with................going out and enjoying the experience in the filed is the main anchor for now.........anything other than that is getting shaky.
I listen to members expressing them selves in a relaxed environment.
They say how do you compete going forward.....that's a real question..............
Only an opinion
Krümelkraft
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AI is using existing photos from the internet.
Who is going to take those photos in the future when there is no real photography anymore?
Who is going to take those photos in the future when there is no real photography anymore?
JoPoV
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I don't this is a relevant argument
Adobe's entry into photoAI is a bit different. It's in the Photoshop Beta.
Their source material is free public material from Adobe Stock. It's already publicly available.
The product is pretty good at incorporating WB, light direction, blur, color adjustments, and shadows not in the original. It is adding something new. It's just adding components - not the entire image or even most of an image.
Virtually everything I've seen can be done with Photoshop and Adobe Stock, but the time required is very different. Even after using the software for a change, there can be significant cloning and fixing things required.
Their source material is free public material from Adobe Stock. It's already publicly available.
The product is pretty good at incorporating WB, light direction, blur, color adjustments, and shadows not in the original. It is adding something new. It's just adding components - not the entire image or even most of an image.
Virtually everything I've seen can be done with Photoshop and Adobe Stock, but the time required is very different. Even after using the software for a change, there can be significant cloning and fixing things required.
O
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As to photos available on the internet.........
They will be supplied by all the new innovative AI images.
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O
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AI in general has many arms, graphics, voice, driving, flying, typing, communicating, action, etc, like any tool it has its good, equally it can be used for bad, knowing the difference is what counts.
As i said once before, much of it for photography has been around for a long while, example Adobe, AI in general is just learning to go to the next level and be more widely used.
Will it make photography obsolete, in many cases absolutely yes, or unless you want or need real time documentary still shots, ie of a football game etc or car race, family , birthday events weddings etc, however that will be largely be replaced with video and streaming of such as we advance more to 5, 6, 7, 8 G LOL, hence the camera industry has gone largely hybrid and in the long term will mainly go video with a small setting which will give you optional still capability for that rare occasion.
The camera industry core money maker is optics- glass- lenses, camera bodies are slowly being chased and eaten like a PAC MAN monster, relentlessly chasing you to swallow you up LOL.
Smartphones and features are largely a rich developing ground, there in the hands of billions, all with real time traceable actual feed back an extremely marketable source of information.
Wouldn't it be nice to attach your I Phone 20 Pro Plus LOL, loaded with Adobe AI on your 600mm F4 with built in 1.4 TC
All images-video captured are streamed directly to your designated cloud source, or transmitted to a small back up device in your pocket that has all the processing power AI presets, for stills - video. I mean you could even have the Ex peed 7,8, or 10 processor in bedded in the back or part of each exotic lens, the processors are dirt cheap and small, now that's wild, ie: like a drone console used a phone as its driving device, why not your lens, or car even.
I mean you have billions of photos or video clips being taken each day, that requires processing storage, how to charge and profit from that drives innovation, the cloud was free now its changing, we need to start paying, like the cocaine industry.
As to photos available on the internet.........
They will be supplied by all the new innovative AI images that likely may dwarf by volume man made photos of yesteryear, ie: film photos have been replaced by billions of digital photo's.
People are taking photos with their phones all the time and most are uploading them to the net.
A issue is copyright in some cases, as AI learns and scans billions of photos the data allows AI to completely generate new items, Noses hair fingers feathers etc etc.
AI has a broader foot print, not just Adobe or photos, It allows movies to be made without real actors, the real actor if they use one sells their copyright license.
Some movies have one prime actor say Nicholas Cage yet 12 action figures are all AI generated, saves on wages and location costs yes.
It seems More actors with deep pockets or means will become production house or just producers directors of their own films, a opportunity in the past available to only a few, i mean if you get paid $20million to produce and direct a movie and that amount is more than you get paid to act in it, hey done deal.
The generation that grew up on video games is now replacing the last of the baby boomers, so the evolution process is on target. The difference between the two generations is conditioning therefore acceptance for change.
Video games have been the embryo for creating AI graphically in that industry, its now in many ways being shared through out the world.
Video game competitions and gambling is a massive industry, AI is the beating heart of that. Its digital war fare games, played in military, sports, action, genres.
There are video game teams that compete in major tournaments against another team, a bit like football, and betting is a massive part of that as it is in most sports.
We live in a world of artificial food, medication, movies, photos, driver less cars trains plains, drones, voting, politics, media, even some life, social activity, and may i say AI its only getting its legs just now.
We have expanded the world usage level of digital frequency ? over the last 25 years alarmingly, in volume and strength, in an abstract way if i can put it that way, are we microwaving the world more and more, wait till AI operates every driver less car. More WI FI, 40,000 more satellites in the next 10 years from Musk alone.
A Tomato grown in the 1920s tastes differently to the one grown in 2023, as does the smell of a rose
Only an opinion
As i said once before, much of it for photography has been around for a long while, example Adobe, AI in general is just learning to go to the next level and be more widely used.
Will it make photography obsolete, in many cases absolutely yes, or unless you want or need real time documentary still shots, ie of a football game etc or car race, family , birthday events weddings etc, however that will be largely be replaced with video and streaming of such as we advance more to 5, 6, 7, 8 G LOL, hence the camera industry has gone largely hybrid and in the long term will mainly go video with a small setting which will give you optional still capability for that rare occasion.
The camera industry core money maker is optics- glass- lenses, camera bodies are slowly being chased and eaten like a PAC MAN monster, relentlessly chasing you to swallow you up LOL.
Smartphones and features are largely a rich developing ground, there in the hands of billions, all with real time traceable actual feed back an extremely marketable source of information.
Wouldn't it be nice to attach your I Phone 20 Pro Plus LOL, loaded with Adobe AI on your 600mm F4 with built in 1.4 TC
All images-video captured are streamed directly to your designated cloud source, or transmitted to a small back up device in your pocket that has all the processing power AI presets, for stills - video. I mean you could even have the Ex peed 7,8, or 10 processor in bedded in the back or part of each exotic lens, the processors are dirt cheap and small, now that's wild, ie: like a drone console used a phone as its driving device, why not your lens, or car even.
I mean you have billions of photos or video clips being taken each day, that requires processing storage, how to charge and profit from that drives innovation, the cloud was free now its changing, we need to start paying, like the cocaine industry.
As to photos available on the internet.........
They will be supplied by all the new innovative AI images that likely may dwarf by volume man made photos of yesteryear, ie: film photos have been replaced by billions of digital photo's.
People are taking photos with their phones all the time and most are uploading them to the net.
A issue is copyright in some cases, as AI learns and scans billions of photos the data allows AI to completely generate new items, Noses hair fingers feathers etc etc.
AI has a broader foot print, not just Adobe or photos, It allows movies to be made without real actors, the real actor if they use one sells their copyright license.
Some movies have one prime actor say Nicholas Cage yet 12 action figures are all AI generated, saves on wages and location costs yes.
It seems More actors with deep pockets or means will become production house or just producers directors of their own films, a opportunity in the past available to only a few, i mean if you get paid $20million to produce and direct a movie and that amount is more than you get paid to act in it, hey done deal.
The generation that grew up on video games is now replacing the last of the baby boomers, so the evolution process is on target. The difference between the two generations is conditioning therefore acceptance for change.
Video games have been the embryo for creating AI graphically in that industry, its now in many ways being shared through out the world.
Video game competitions and gambling is a massive industry, AI is the beating heart of that. Its digital war fare games, played in military, sports, action, genres.
There are video game teams that compete in major tournaments against another team, a bit like football, and betting is a massive part of that as it is in most sports.
We live in a world of artificial food, medication, movies, photos, driver less cars trains plains, drones, voting, politics, media, even some life, social activity, and may i say AI its only getting its legs just now.
We have expanded the world usage level of digital frequency ? over the last 25 years alarmingly, in volume and strength, in an abstract way if i can put it that way, are we microwaving the world more and more, wait till AI operates every driver less car. More WI FI, 40,000 more satellites in the next 10 years from Musk alone.
A Tomato grown in the 1920s tastes differently to the one grown in 2023, as does the smell of a rose
Only an opinion
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Robert S
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All this AI stuff had me worried. End of the world, being annihilated by 'The Terminator' etc. Then the septic tank got blocked because one of the kids put 'wipes' down the toilet after cleaning up Little Dog poo. I realised that poo might be smelly and generally unpleasant but 1. it gives plumbers work, and 2. it is immune to AI.
PS see how long your cell phone lasts when hit with a two pound hammer.
PS see how long your cell phone lasts when hit with a two pound hammer.
Have lab created "diamonds" replaced natural diamonds?
O
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You should be proud of your well behaved and thoughtful kids, cleaning up the dog poo, LOL.
AI to me is just another thing streaming out of the internet box following Tik Tok and all that stuff.
Voice AI is frightening, i mean some one could say something in my voice to my girlfriend that is not be what i said, thankfully she knows my character well.
Imagine court cases, i would call for Doctor Bull for a fee be.
Sometimes you get a phone call, your asked to partake in a simple survey with three questions, just say yes or no only. I just hang up.
Then my bank says to make telephone banking ID easier and faster simply speak when prompted and we will use voice recognition as your ID. No way, thank you.
Ok so the crimes are ahead of the banks, whats new. Its only R and D.
What really worries me is not AI, but the fact that in so much of the worlds digital space, we don't have a real choice anymore, everywhere its an App or go to or download, or whats your password, its for many becoming a bit much, for the kids cleaning up the poo and others maybe its second nature and a walk in the park.
I heard You can go on 30 day digital free holiday, all to de frag, re register, reformat the brain with your emotions.
Only an opinion
They have. 30% of mined diamonds are gem-quality, the rest are used for industrial purposes like metal and mining tools and blades. Synthetic diamonds now dominate industrial applications, something like 98%. Same with AI. It will absolutely dominate the commercial end of photography and videography. Every agency I work with started using it replacing product photography.
O
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I recall a Jewish business man attempting to develop or expand manufacturing of synthetic diamonds, i recall vaguely it was in Africa ?, a long time ago? does this mean he was successful ? if so good on him.
As to agency's, i hear similar through my framers.
A commercial photographer mate is actually busy because of web site builders having the same web stock people images on their web sites LOL.
A travel agency uses a lady then later the same lady was used and appears on a beauty salon web site ????
The world is changing, in some way for the good in many ways not so.
Its going to be interesting where the Canon Sony Nikon's of the world will all be heading.
All this new technology, expense etc for many people may very well be a little demotivating. I hope not to many.
What we accept or how well we adapt to or with change i think has a lot to do with the generation we come from.
To me i ignore most of it all........but i do keep and ear open in the back ground........
Only an opinion
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