My Z9 Update Wish List - I sent this to Nikon

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@Steve regarding your below point on having an extra button, one workaround is for Nikon to let us use the DISP button to assign any function. I offered this as a wishlist item to Brad and he's included it in his list as well.


First, I think we need an extra button on the back that we can assign. Just the AF-On button isn't enough. It would be nice to have another AF area / function avaialbe in that prime real estate area.
 
ability to save/lock recall shooting function would be great. Better yet, just give us U1, U2, U3, memory settings so that we can recall specific sooting functions. On my wife’s Sony we have M1 for moving active subjects, M2 for static subjects and M3 for people (with face detect). On the A7iv, M1, M2, M3 can be saved for video and for stills giving 6 (maybe more) recalled saved configurations.

I have trouble thinking this type of feature would be “lost” on a pro.
 
The most valuable IMO would be ability to assign something really meaningful to lens control ring. ISO and especially the ability to change AF-Area mode would be great.

But as one of the characters in the Last Samurai movie noted, when contemplating the beauty of the cherry flowers, I can say that all your points are perfect, Steve :).
I’ve disabled the lens ring on my lenses…I carry on a Black Rapid strap and they’re constantly being turned while hiking. If there was an option that I found useful I would deal with the irritation.
 
The firmware update list looks solid to me. I was actually surprised shooting banks didn’t revert back to the defaults, but I guess if they did people would be complaining about that too as it didn’t retain the settings they were using just minutes ago. It would be nice if given the option to retain last used or lock as defaults when configuring. I completely agree with needing a dedicated way to turn subject detection on/off. I’d even like to be able to have it set on for one focus area assigned to a button and off for another focus area assigned to a different button, example on for wide area L, off for 3D. I also like the idea on #2 of being able to turn torso on/off in subject detection. Some scenarios torso is a great option, others not.

I have read varying opinions on the Z9 EVF where some people have the exact same complaints about the A1 EVF and prefer the Z9 so I’m not sure that is solvable. Seems more of a preference that differs between individuals. I started with mirrorless cameras when EVFs were terrible so it’s difficult for me to complain about where they are today. The memory card door also seems to be a like it or hate it thing. I haven’t had any issues with it, but I think one of my previous Fujifilm cameras used a similar design so it was natural to me.

It would be welcome to see a few or all of these make it to the next firmware update. Hopefully they are listening.
 
Solid list. I especially agree with exposure warnings in the live view... I shouldn't need to guess based on the brightness of the image, and I don't always notice the histogram right away.

I'd also like arbitrary aspect ratios (to assist with visualization), and RAW pre-capture (at least in HE RAW).
 
Thanks for pulling together a list of Z9 improvements that Nikon should consider, Steve. Maybe I’ve been fortunate that the Z9 has not been available to me, so I’ve had to “struggle along“ with my D6, D500, and Sony a1. I was informed just yesterday that the Z9 is in stock at my favorite camera store, but I can’t seem to pull the trigger on a purchase because I still see discussions about the “poor” handling of Z9 raw files in Adobe Lightroom Classic. So, what is the current situation on the handling of RAW files in Adobe Lightroom? Is everyone happy?
 
List of Z9 firmware update suggestions

So, I sent this list of ideas to Nikon for firmware updates easier this year and thought I'd share it with the board. So far, no joy (this was sent back in May I think), but who knows - maybe they'll take some of the suggestions to heart. The list below was for firmware, but I have a few hardware ideas at the bottom.

1. I'd love to see an option for turning off subject detection with a programmable button. While most of the time subject detection works well, it can sometimes prove problematic. There are instances it will miss-identify the target or end up on the wrong place on that subject. An option to quickly toggle subject detection on and off with the press of a button would prove extremely helpful. At the moment, I have Recall Shooting programmed for this, but it's really a waste of that function's capabilities.

2. Another incredibly useful option would be to control exactly what aspects subject detection is looking for in an image - either body/face/eye OR just face/eye. Often, when I see problems with subject detection, it's not that subject detection is failing; it's that focusing on the torso is the wrong approach. (Also, this mainly applies to the Wide AF areas.)

For instance, I have noticed with long-necked birds-in-flight that the camera frequently doesn't see the face or eye but almost always identifies the torso. However, if the bird is coming in at any kind of an angle, the result is an out-of-focus face/eye and a sharp body.

With the option to only look for the face/eye, the photographer could concentrate on keeping a wide AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye as much as possible. If the camera sees the face/eye, great - that's an extra aid (same applies if the photographer wanders off-target and the camera is sticking to the face/eye). However, if the camera doesn't see the face/eye, then it would use the AF area normally. In that scenario, if the photographer had the AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye, at least those areas would be sharp. However, as it stands now, you can have a wide AF area right where you want it on the target and the camera will still go for the body if it doesn't see the face or eye, resulting in a 100% failure rate, depending on the angle of the subject.

3. Another helpful option would be to restrict subject detection to just the inside of the Wide AF areas rather than letting it have full reign over the entire subject (this would help with the situation mentioned in point 2 above). I think this should be an on/off option as there are times the current implementation is advantageous. This would be another handy option for an on/off toggle on a programmable button.

4. Spot metering hold. An item I think should make a comeback is the spot meter (hold) option. For tricky metering situations, it's incredibly helpful. It was an option on previous cameras and it would be welcomed back by many. I've seen quite a few people asking about it and they are genuinely disappointed that it's not there. It would undoubtedly be helpful for wildlife work (it was in the past).

5. Another helpful addition would be to place Auto ISO at the "bottom" and "top" of the ISO range when using the lens control ring. Adjusting manual ISO on the control ring is incredibly handy, but if you want to jump from normal ISO to Auto, you must press the ISO button and turn the sub-command dial to toggle between them. It would be handy if you could put all the ISO options on a single, fast control. So, I could select my ISO manually with the lens function ring as I can now, but when I want to go back into Auto ISO, I'd simply turn the ring to the bottom or top of the range.

6. In addition to Nikon, I also shoot Sony and I have to tell you that zebra stripes for exposure are incredibly helpful. While the histogram is handy too, it's tough to spot small, clipped highlights with it and it covers up part of the photo. No such issue with zebra stripes - they don't cover any image area and spotting even a tiny flashing bit of clipped highlight is easy. I think that this would be a welcome addition for many shooters.

7. I'd also love to see recall shooting available with different settings for each button. Recall shooting is an incredibly powerful option and allowing every button to have its own (different) recall shooting options would offer a level of flexibility unheard of in most cameras. As a quick example, you could have one button programmed for slower subjects and another programmed for faster ones. This would make instant changes in the field incredibly fast.

8. AF areas on the lens control ring. Another handy option would be switching AF areas by turning the lens control ring. Using the proper AF area can make a huge difference in outcome and having a nearly instant way to do it would be a nice upgrade.

9. Another option that would be nice for changing AF areas is to have the camera switch from area to area with the press of a button. So, for example, you'd program Fn1 as your toggle button and one press would get you from the AF area you're currently using to the next one in the sequence. Sony allows you to do this and it makes changing AF areas incredibly fast. Although I still think having them on the control ring would be faster, it would be nice to have both options.

10. A handy upgrade would be an option that allows us to lock in the current settings for our photo shooting banks. As it stands now, any changes I make while in a given photo shooting bank changes that setting to the new default for that bank. Ideally, it would be nice if each bank had an option to "lock in current settings." That way, a user could set up a bank for a general scenario and make small tweaks as needed for the specific situation in the viewfinder. However, instead of those tweaks becoming the new default for that bank, when the user goes into another bank and then back, they would get the original settings they had when they first locked them in.

In short, it would be handy to know that when you go back to a particular photo shooting bank, it's always set a certain way. I honestly don't use the photo shooting banks myself at the moment because they don't recall my preferred settings for that bank. If I have to go in and make adjustments anyway, there's not much point in using them unless you typically have to change a LOT of settings. Also, this lock should absolutely apply to the shutter speed, F/stop and ISO settings if Extended menu banks are turned on - that's where it would be the most useful.

10a - This is a continuation of 10. It would also be nice to have the option to link photo shooting banks to a specific custom setting bank. That way maybe I could link custom setting bank a to photo shooting bank a (or b, or c) and have a far more effective customization at my fingertips without jumping around between menus.

That's it. I appreciate your consideration.

That was the end of the letter, but there are always other things to add. :)

In addition, I'd of course like to see AF improved to at least a1 levels. That didn't make the list (I think they know). Plus, I'd like to see a LOT more customization offered - my a1 has 164 items I can assign, the Z9, only 62. And, as noted in my letter above, there are some very valuable items that could be added.

Hardware:​

In addition to the firmware ideas I sent Nikon, I think a few hardware updates would be handy as well.

Obviously, these ideas would require a new camera, a Z9ii

First, I think we need an extra button on the back that we can assign. Just the AF-On button isn't enough. It would be nice to have another AF area / function avaialbe in that prime real estate area.

A better EVF would be nice - the current one is good, but I think if it were right erred, it would be better. I often forget I'm looking at an EVF with my a1 - with the Z9, not so much.

A deeper buffer would be great - something that allowed 30 FPS with lossless RAW and RAW pre-capture.

I also think we need more dials. There's a lot of empty space on top that could be used for a customizable dial that allows exp comp, ISO etc. I'd also like to see a "ring" on the back of the camera like Sony and Canon has. The Sony one not only turns, but allows button pushes at all the cardinal points and three of those are customizable.

Also, fix the eyepiece for the viewfinder - the little rubber thing likes to come off (and it's not just my camera - I saw it a lot over the summer during workshops).

The camera could also use a much better latch for the memory card door. I loved the ones with the D5/6, this is sometimes a pain to open by comparison.

Finally, weight - the Z9 is just heavier than it needs to be IMO. Sony and Canon have pro mirrorless that don't feel like you're holding a hunk of lead, Nikon can do it too.

Whew, that's the main stuff. I have lots of other little things too for both firmware and hardware, but those are the big ones I'd like to see,.
I hope they will listen to you! Or maybe they should hire you as professional consultant in the making of the next version of the Z9
 
List of Z9 firmware update suggestions

So, I sent this list of ideas to Nikon for firmware updates easier this year and thought I'd share it with the board. So far, no joy (this was sent back in May I think), but who knows - maybe they'll take some of the suggestions to heart. The list below was for firmware, but I have a few hardware ideas at the bottom.

1. I'd love to see an option for turning off subject detection with a programmable button. While most of the time subject detection works well, it can sometimes prove problematic. There are instances it will miss-identify the target or end up on the wrong place on that subject. An option to quickly toggle subject detection on and off with the press of a button would prove extremely helpful. At the moment, I have Recall Shooting programmed for this, but it's really a waste of that function's capabilities.

2. Another incredibly useful option would be to control exactly what aspects subject detection is looking for in an image - either body/face/eye OR just face/eye. Often, when I see problems with subject detection, it's not that subject detection is failing; it's that focusing on the torso is the wrong approach. (Also, this mainly applies to the Wide AF areas.)

For instance, I have noticed with long-necked birds-in-flight that the camera frequently doesn't see the face or eye but almost always identifies the torso. However, if the bird is coming in at any kind of an angle, the result is an out-of-focus face/eye and a sharp body.

With the option to only look for the face/eye, the photographer could concentrate on keeping a wide AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye as much as possible. If the camera sees the face/eye, great - that's an extra aid (same applies if the photographer wanders off-target and the camera is sticking to the face/eye). However, if the camera doesn't see the face/eye, then it would use the AF area normally. In that scenario, if the photographer had the AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye, at least those areas would be sharp. However, as it stands now, you can have a wide AF area right where you want it on the target and the camera will still go for the body if it doesn't see the face or eye, resulting in a 100% failure rate, depending on the angle of the subject.

3. Another helpful option would be to restrict subject detection to just the inside of the Wide AF areas rather than letting it have full reign over the entire subject (this would help with the situation mentioned in point 2 above). I think this should be an on/off option as there are times the current implementation is advantageous. This would be another handy option for an on/off toggle on a programmable button.

4. Spot metering hold. An item I think should make a comeback is the spot meter (hold) option. For tricky metering situations, it's incredibly helpful. It was an option on previous cameras and it would be welcomed back by many. I've seen quite a few people asking about it and they are genuinely disappointed that it's not there. It would undoubtedly be helpful for wildlife work (it was in the past).

5. Another helpful addition would be to place Auto ISO at the "bottom" and "top" of the ISO range when using the lens control ring. Adjusting manual ISO on the control ring is incredibly handy, but if you want to jump from normal ISO to Auto, you must press the ISO button and turn the sub-command dial to toggle between them. It would be handy if you could put all the ISO options on a single, fast control. So, I could select my ISO manually with the lens function ring as I can now, but when I want to go back into Auto ISO, I'd simply turn the ring to the bottom or top of the range.

6. In addition to Nikon, I also shoot Sony and I have to tell you that zebra stripes for exposure are incredibly helpful. While the histogram is handy too, it's tough to spot small, clipped highlights with it and it covers up part of the photo. No such issue with zebra stripes - they don't cover any image area and spotting even a tiny flashing bit of clipped highlight is easy. I think that this would be a welcome addition for many shooters.

7. I'd also love to see recall shooting available with different settings for each button. Recall shooting is an incredibly powerful option and allowing every button to have its own (different) recall shooting options would offer a level of flexibility unheard of in most cameras. As a quick example, you could have one button programmed for slower subjects and another programmed for faster ones. This would make instant changes in the field incredibly fast.

8. AF areas on the lens control ring. Another handy option would be switching AF areas by turning the lens control ring. Using the proper AF area can make a huge difference in outcome and having a nearly instant way to do it would be a nice upgrade.

9. Another option that would be nice for changing AF areas is to have the camera switch from area to area with the press of a button. So, for example, you'd program Fn1 as your toggle button and one press would get you from the AF area you're currently using to the next one in the sequence. Sony allows you to do this and it makes changing AF areas incredibly fast. Although I still think having them on the control ring would be faster, it would be nice to have both options.

10. A handy upgrade would be an option that allows us to lock in the current settings for our photo shooting banks. As it stands now, any changes I make while in a given photo shooting bank changes that setting to the new default for that bank. Ideally, it would be nice if each bank had an option to "lock in current settings." That way, a user could set up a bank for a general scenario and make small tweaks as needed for the specific situation in the viewfinder. However, instead of those tweaks becoming the new default for that bank, when the user goes into another bank and then back, they would get the original settings they had when they first locked them in.

In short, it would be handy to know that when you go back to a particular photo shooting bank, it's always set a certain way. I honestly don't use the photo shooting banks myself at the moment because they don't recall my preferred settings for that bank. If I have to go in and make adjustments anyway, there's not much point in using them unless you typically have to change a LOT of settings. Also, this lock should absolutely apply to the shutter speed, F/stop and ISO settings if Extended menu banks are turned on - that's where it would be the most useful.

10a - This is a continuation of 10. It would also be nice to have the option to link photo shooting banks to a specific custom setting bank. That way maybe I could link custom setting bank a to photo shooting bank a (or b, or c) and have a far more effective customization at my fingertips without jumping around between menus.

That's it. I appreciate your consideration.

That was the end of the letter, but there are always other things to add. :)

In addition, I'd of course like to see AF improved to at least a1 levels. That didn't make the list (I think they know). Plus, I'd like to see a LOT more customization offered - my a1 has 164 items I can assign, the Z9, only 62. And, as noted in my letter above, there are some very valuable items that could be added.

Hardware:​

In addition to the firmware ideas I sent Nikon, I think a few hardware updates would be handy as well.

Obviously, these ideas would require a new camera, a Z9ii

First, I think we need an extra button on the back that we can assign. Just the AF-On button isn't enough. It would be nice to have another AF area / function avaialbe in that prime real estate area.

A better EVF would be nice - the current one is good, but I think if it were right erred, it would be better. I often forget I'm looking at an EVF with my a1 - with the Z9, not so much.

A deeper buffer would be great - something that allowed 30 FPS with lossless RAW and RAW pre-capture.

I also think we need more dials. There's a lot of empty space on top that could be used for a customizable dial that allows exp comp, ISO etc. I'd also like to see a "ring" on the back of the camera like Sony and Canon has. The Sony one not only turns, but allows button pushes at all the cardinal points and three of those are customizable.

Also, fix the eyepiece for the viewfinder - the little rubber thing likes to come off (and it's not just my camera - I saw it a lot over the summer during workshops).

The camera could also use a much better latch for the memory card door. I loved the ones with the D5/6, this is sometimes a pain to open by comparison.

Finally, weight - the Z9 is just heavier than it needs to be IMO. Sony and Canon have pro mirrorless that don't feel like you're holding a hunk of lead, Nikon can do it too.

Whew, that's the main stuff. I have lots of other little things too for both firmware and hardware, but those are the big ones I'd like to see,.
Back in March or April I spoke on the phone with Paul Van Allen of Nikon and told him we needed a single button press to switch from AF-C to AF-S and single button press to switch Subject Detection on to off (which you also asked for). He promised me that he would ask the engineers to do both. It is now almost November and neither have been done.
 
Back in March or April I spoke on the phone with Paul Van Allen of Nikon and told him we needed a single button press to switch from AF-C to AF-S and single button press to switch Subject Detection on to off (which you also asked for). He promised me that he would ask the engineers to do both. It is now almost November and neither have been done.
you may want to get it on Brad’s list if it isn’t already
 
Also, fix the eyepiece for the viewfinder - the little rubber thing likes to come off (and it's not just my camera - I saw it a lot over the summer during workshops).
Ha! And I thought this was just me! That darn rubber thing came half off the eyepiece after only a few weeks, and it's impossible to get back on, I had to order a replacement, which was out of stock naturally but finally got one. Probably should have bought an extra :)
 
Ha! And I thought this was just me! That darn rubber thing came half off the eyepiece after only a few weeks, and it's impossible to get back on, I had to order a replacement, which was out of stock naturally but finally got one. Probably should have bought an extra :)
I was telling my dealer about the rubber cover not fitting back on to the security port and he said he had heard several reports of the same problem. Nikon wanted me to return the camera to fix it under warranty but I'm not prepared to part with for that long when the camera is otherwise fine.
 
I was telling my dealer about the rubber cover not fitting back on to the security port and he said he had heard several reports of the same problem. Nikon wanted me to return the camera to fix it under warranty but I'm not prepared to part with for that long when the camera is otherwise fine.
I agree. I don't see how they would do anything beyond putting it back together like we can at home.
 
List of Z9 firmware update suggestions

So, I sent this list of ideas to Nikon for firmware updates easier this year and thought I'd share it with the board. So far, no joy (this was sent back in May I think), but who knows - maybe they'll take some of the suggestions to heart. The list below was for firmware, but I have a few hardware ideas at the bottom.

1. I'd love to see an option for turning off subject detection with a programmable button. While most of the time subject detection works well, it can sometimes prove problematic. There are instances it will miss-identify the target or end up on the wrong place on that subject. An option to quickly toggle subject detection on and off with the press of a button would prove extremely helpful. At the moment, I have Recall Shooting programmed for this, but it's really a waste of that function's capabilities.

2. Another incredibly useful option would be to control exactly what aspects subject detection is looking for in an image - either body/face/eye OR just face/eye. Often, when I see problems with subject detection, it's not that subject detection is failing; it's that focusing on the torso is the wrong approach. (Also, this mainly applies to the Wide AF areas.)

For instance, I have noticed with long-necked birds-in-flight that the camera frequently doesn't see the face or eye but almost always identifies the torso. However, if the bird is coming in at any kind of an angle, the result is an out-of-focus face/eye and a sharp body.

With the option to only look for the face/eye, the photographer could concentrate on keeping a wide AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye as much as possible. If the camera sees the face/eye, great - that's an extra aid (same applies if the photographer wanders off-target and the camera is sticking to the face/eye). However, if the camera doesn't see the face/eye, then it would use the AF area normally. In that scenario, if the photographer had the AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye, at least those areas would be sharp. However, as it stands now, you can have a wide AF area right where you want it on the target and the camera will still go for the body if it doesn't see the face or eye, resulting in a 100% failure rate, depending on the angle of the subject.

3. Another helpful option would be to restrict subject detection to just the inside of the Wide AF areas rather than letting it have full reign over the entire subject (this would help with the situation mentioned in point 2 above). I think this should be an on/off option as there are times the current implementation is advantageous. This would be another handy option for an on/off toggle on a programmable button.

4. Spot metering hold. An item I think should make a comeback is the spot meter (hold) option. For tricky metering situations, it's incredibly helpful. It was an option on previous cameras and it would be welcomed back by many. I've seen quite a few people asking about it and they are genuinely disappointed that it's not there. It would undoubtedly be helpful for wildlife work (it was in the past).

5. Another helpful addition would be to place Auto ISO at the "bottom" and "top" of the ISO range when using the lens control ring. Adjusting manual ISO on the control ring is incredibly handy, but if you want to jump from normal ISO to Auto, you must press the ISO button and turn the sub-command dial to toggle between them. It would be handy if you could put all the ISO options on a single, fast control. So, I could select my ISO manually with the lens function ring as I can now, but when I want to go back into Auto ISO, I'd simply turn the ring to the bottom or top of the range.

6. In addition to Nikon, I also shoot Sony and I have to tell you that zebra stripes for exposure are incredibly helpful. While the histogram is handy too, it's tough to spot small, clipped highlights with it and it covers up part of the photo. No such issue with zebra stripes - they don't cover any image area and spotting even a tiny flashing bit of clipped highlight is easy. I think that this would be a welcome addition for many shooters.

7. I'd also love to see recall shooting available with different settings for each button. Recall shooting is an incredibly powerful option and allowing every button to have its own (different) recall shooting options would offer a level of flexibility unheard of in most cameras. As a quick example, you could have one button programmed for slower subjects and another programmed for faster ones. This would make instant changes in the field incredibly fast.

8. AF areas on the lens control ring. Another handy option would be switching AF areas by turning the lens control ring. Using the proper AF area can make a huge difference in outcome and having a nearly instant way to do it would be a nice upgrade.

9. Another option that would be nice for changing AF areas is to have the camera switch from area to area with the press of a button. So, for example, you'd program Fn1 as your toggle button and one press would get you from the AF area you're currently using to the next one in the sequence. Sony allows you to do this and it makes changing AF areas incredibly fast. Although I still think having them on the control ring would be faster, it would be nice to have both options.

10. A handy upgrade would be an option that allows us to lock in the current settings for our photo shooting banks. As it stands now, any changes I make while in a given photo shooting bank changes that setting to the new default for that bank. Ideally, it would be nice if each bank had an option to "lock in current settings." That way, a user could set up a bank for a general scenario and make small tweaks as needed for the specific situation in the viewfinder. However, instead of those tweaks becoming the new default for that bank, when the user goes into another bank and then back, they would get the original settings they had when they first locked them in.

In short, it would be handy to know that when you go back to a particular photo shooting bank, it's always set a certain way. I honestly don't use the photo shooting banks myself at the moment because they don't recall my preferred settings for that bank. If I have to go in and make adjustments anyway, there's not much point in using them unless you typically have to change a LOT of settings. Also, this lock should absolutely apply to the shutter speed, F/stop and ISO settings if Extended menu banks are turned on - that's where it would be the most useful.

10a - This is a continuation of 10. It would also be nice to have the option to link photo shooting banks to a specific custom setting bank. That way maybe I could link custom setting bank a to photo shooting bank a (or b, or c) and have a far more effective customization at my fingertips without jumping around between menus.

That's it. I appreciate your consideration.

That was the end of the letter, but there are always other things to add. :)

In addition, I'd of course like to see AF improved to at least a1 levels. That didn't make the list (I think they know). Plus, I'd like to see a LOT more customization offered - my a1 has 164 items I can assign, the Z9, only 62. And, as noted in my letter above, there are some very valuable items that could be added.

Hardware:​

In addition to the firmware ideas I sent Nikon, I think a few hardware updates would be handy as well.

Obviously, these ideas would require a new camera, a Z9ii

First, I think we need an extra button on the back that we can assign. Just the AF-On button isn't enough. It would be nice to have another AF area / function avaialbe in that prime real estate area.

A better EVF would be nice - the current one is good, but I think if it were right erred, it would be better. I often forget I'm looking at an EVF with my a1 - with the Z9, not so much.

A deeper buffer would be great - something that allowed 30 FPS with lossless RAW and RAW pre-capture.

I also think we need more dials. There's a lot of empty space on top that could be used for a customizable dial that allows exp comp, ISO etc. I'd also like to see a "ring" on the back of the camera like Sony and Canon has. The Sony one not only turns, but allows button pushes at all the cardinal points and three of those are customizable.

Also, fix the eyepiece for the viewfinder - the little rubber thing likes to come off (and it's not just my camera - I saw it a lot over the summer during workshops).

The camera could also use a much better latch for the memory card door. I loved the ones with the D5/6, this is sometimes a pain to open by comparison.

Finally, weight - the Z9 is just heavier than it needs to be IMO. Sony and Canon have pro mirrorless that don't feel like you're holding a hunk of lead, Nikon can do it too.

Whew, that's the main stuff. I have lots of other little things too for both firmware and hardware, but those are the big ones I'd like to see,.
Some really great suggestions and ideas,

i feel like the Z6 was very ordinary, then followed up with the Z6II excellent but still lacking, the Z9 will a see Z9II then a A9III A9IV LOL, so its important to time the selling of to update, if the benefits are there, hence i feel with cameras we are now in a era of more frequent camera changes like phone model changes.
I think the Z9 has a lot to catch up on.........not only in its self but compared to the competition, consumers will always want more, that's who we are LOL.
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My biggest issue with the Z9 for me is weight only if i am hiking for wild life, but its not a total deal breaker.

We are seeing more light long glass emerging, i think the Z8 will match that nicely.

Only an opinion
 
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List of Z9 firmware update suggestions

So, I sent this list of ideas to Nikon for firmware updates easier this year and thought I'd share it with the board. So far, no joy (this was sent back in May I think), but who knows - maybe they'll take some of the suggestions to heart. The list below was for firmware, but I have a few hardware ideas at the bottom.

1. I'd love to see an option for turning off subject detection with a programmable button. While most of the time subject detection works well, it can sometimes prove problematic. There are instances it will miss-identify the target or end up on the wrong place on that subject. An option to quickly toggle subject detection on and off with the press of a button would prove extremely helpful. At the moment, I have Recall Shooting programmed for this, but it's really a waste of that function's capabilities.

2. Another incredibly useful option would be to control exactly what aspects subject detection is looking for in an image - either body/face/eye OR just face/eye. Often, when I see problems with subject detection, it's not that subject detection is failing; it's that focusing on the torso is the wrong approach. (Also, this mainly applies to the Wide AF areas.)

For instance, I have noticed with long-necked birds-in-flight that the camera frequently doesn't see the face or eye but almost always identifies the torso. However, if the bird is coming in at any kind of an angle, the result is an out-of-focus face/eye and a sharp body.

With the option to only look for the face/eye, the photographer could concentrate on keeping a wide AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye as much as possible. If the camera sees the face/eye, great - that's an extra aid (same applies if the photographer wanders off-target and the camera is sticking to the face/eye). However, if the camera doesn't see the face/eye, then it would use the AF area normally. In that scenario, if the photographer had the AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye, at least those areas would be sharp. However, as it stands now, you can have a wide AF area right where you want it on the target and the camera will still go for the body if it doesn't see the face or eye, resulting in a 100% failure rate, depending on the angle of the subject.

3. Another helpful option would be to restrict subject detection to just the inside of the Wide AF areas rather than letting it have full reign over the entire subject (this would help with the situation mentioned in point 2 above). I think this should be an on/off option as there are times the current implementation is advantageous. This would be another handy option for an on/off toggle on a programmable button.

4. Spot metering hold. An item I think should make a comeback is the spot meter (hold) option. For tricky metering situations, it's incredibly helpful. It was an option on previous cameras and it would be welcomed back by many. I've seen quite a few people asking about it and they are genuinely disappointed that it's not there. It would undoubtedly be helpful for wildlife work (it was in the past).

5. Another helpful addition would be to place Auto ISO at the "bottom" and "top" of the ISO range when using the lens control ring. Adjusting manual ISO on the control ring is incredibly handy, but if you want to jump from normal ISO to Auto, you must press the ISO button and turn the sub-command dial to toggle between them. It would be handy if you could put all the ISO options on a single, fast control. So, I could select my ISO manually with the lens function ring as I can now, but when I want to go back into Auto ISO, I'd simply turn the ring to the bottom or top of the range.

6. In addition to Nikon, I also shoot Sony and I have to tell you that zebra stripes for exposure are incredibly helpful. While the histogram is handy too, it's tough to spot small, clipped highlights with it and it covers up part of the photo. No such issue with zebra stripes - they don't cover any image area and spotting even a tiny flashing bit of clipped highlight is easy. I think that this would be a welcome addition for many shooters.

7. I'd also love to see recall shooting available with different settings for each button. Recall shooting is an incredibly powerful option and allowing every button to have its own (different) recall shooting options would offer a level of flexibility unheard of in most cameras. As a quick example, you could have one button programmed for slower subjects and another programmed for faster ones. This would make instant changes in the field incredibly fast.

8. AF areas on the lens control ring. Another handy option would be switching AF areas by turning the lens control ring. Using the proper AF area can make a huge difference in outcome and having a nearly instant way to do it would be a nice upgrade.

9. Another option that would be nice for changing AF areas is to have the camera switch from area to area with the press of a button. So, for example, you'd program Fn1 as your toggle button and one press would get you from the AF area you're currently using to the next one in the sequence. Sony allows you to do this and it makes changing AF areas incredibly fast. Although I still think having them on the control ring would be faster, it would be nice to have both options.

10. A handy upgrade would be an option that allows us to lock in the current settings for our photo shooting banks. As it stands now, any changes I make while in a given photo shooting bank changes that setting to the new default for that bank. Ideally, it would be nice if each bank had an option to "lock in current settings." That way, a user could set up a bank for a general scenario and make small tweaks as needed for the specific situation in the viewfinder. However, instead of those tweaks becoming the new default for that bank, when the user goes into another bank and then back, they would get the original settings they had when they first locked them in.

In short, it would be handy to know that when you go back to a particular photo shooting bank, it's always set a certain way. I honestly don't use the photo shooting banks myself at the moment because they don't recall my preferred settings for that bank. If I have to go in and make adjustments anyway, there's not much point in using them unless you typically have to change a LOT of settings. Also, this lock should absolutely apply to the shutter speed, F/stop and ISO settings if Extended menu banks are turned on - that's where it would be the most useful.

10a - This is a continuation of 10. It would also be nice to have the option to link photo shooting banks to a specific custom setting bank. That way maybe I could link custom setting bank a to photo shooting bank a (or b, or c) and have a far more effective customization at my fingertips without jumping around between menus.

That's it. I appreciate your consideration.

That was the end of the letter, but there are always other things to add. :)

In addition, I'd of course like to see AF improved to at least a1 levels. That didn't make the list (I think they know). Plus, I'd like to see a LOT more customization offered - my a1 has 164 items I can assign, the Z9, only 62. And, as noted in my letter above, there are some very valuable items that could be added.

Hardware:​

In addition to the firmware ideas I sent Nikon, I think a few hardware updates would be handy as well.

Obviously, these ideas would require a new camera, a Z9ii

First, I think we need an extra button on the back that we can assign. Just the AF-On button isn't enough. It would be nice to have another AF area / function avaialbe in that prime real estate area.

A better EVF would be nice - the current one is good, but I think if it were right erred, it would be better. I often forget I'm looking at an EVF with my a1 - with the Z9, not so much.

A deeper buffer would be great - something that allowed 30 FPS with lossless RAW and RAW pre-capture.

I also think we need more dials. There's a lot of empty space on top that could be used for a customizable dial that allows exp comp, ISO etc. I'd also like to see a "ring" on the back of the camera like Sony and Canon has. The Sony one not only turns, but allows button pushes at all the cardinal points and three of those are customizable.

Also, fix the eyepiece for the viewfinder - the little rubber thing likes to come off (and it's not just my camera - I saw it a lot over the summer during workshops).

The camera could also use a much better latch for the memory card door. I loved the ones with the D5/6, this is sometimes a pain to open by comparison.

Finally, weight - the Z9 is just heavier than it needs to be IMO. Sony and Canon have pro mirrorless that don't feel like you're holding a hunk of lead, Nikon can do it too.

Whew, that's the main stuff. I have lots of other little things too for both firmware and hardware, but those are the big ones I'd like to see,.
The memory card latch is a real pain if you have arthritis in your hand/wrist.
 
Ill add to this. In video mode AF-F the only way to stop and reset tracking is by pressing the ok button....the one place where your thumb isnt really near.... but you can initiate tracking by pressing shutter, af-on and the ok button. If I can start the tracking with a button why cant I stop and reset it with the same button? Honestly the entire UX in video mode is kinda dumb in that its different than photo mode.
 
List of Z9 firmware update suggestions

So, I sent this list of ideas to Nikon for firmware updates easier this year and thought I'd share it with the board. So far, no joy (this was sent back in May I think), but who knows - maybe they'll take some of the suggestions to heart. The list below was for firmware, but I have a few hardware ideas at the bottom.

1. I'd love to see an option for turning off subject detection with a programmable button. While most of the time subject detection works well, it can sometimes prove problematic. There are instances it will miss-identify the target or end up on the wrong place on that subject. An option to quickly toggle subject detection on and off with the press of a button would prove extremely helpful. At the moment, I have Recall Shooting programmed for this, but it's really a waste of that function's capabilities.

2. Another incredibly useful option would be to control exactly what aspects subject detection is looking for in an image - either body/face/eye OR just face/eye. Often, when I see problems with subject detection, it's not that subject detection is failing; it's that focusing on the torso is the wrong approach. (Also, this mainly applies to the Wide AF areas.)

For instance, I have noticed with long-necked birds-in-flight that the camera frequently doesn't see the face or eye but almost always identifies the torso. However, if the bird is coming in at any kind of an angle, the result is an out-of-focus face/eye and a sharp body.

With the option to only look for the face/eye, the photographer could concentrate on keeping a wide AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye as much as possible. If the camera sees the face/eye, great - that's an extra aid (same applies if the photographer wanders off-target and the camera is sticking to the face/eye). However, if the camera doesn't see the face/eye, then it would use the AF area normally. In that scenario, if the photographer had the AF area in the vicinity of the face/eye, at least those areas would be sharp. However, as it stands now, you can have a wide AF area right where you want it on the target and the camera will still go for the body if it doesn't see the face or eye, resulting in a 100% failure rate, depending on the angle of the subject.

3. Another helpful option would be to restrict subject detection to just the inside of the Wide AF areas rather than letting it have full reign over the entire subject (this would help with the situation mentioned in point 2 above). I think this should be an on/off option as there are times the current implementation is advantageous. This would be another handy option for an on/off toggle on a programmable button.

4. Spot metering hold. An item I think should make a comeback is the spot meter (hold) option. For tricky metering situations, it's incredibly helpful. It was an option on previous cameras and it would be welcomed back by many. I've seen quite a few people asking about it and they are genuinely disappointed that it's not there. It would undoubtedly be helpful for wildlife work (it was in the past).

5. Another helpful addition would be to place Auto ISO at the "bottom" and "top" of the ISO range when using the lens control ring. Adjusting manual ISO on the control ring is incredibly handy, but if you want to jump from normal ISO to Auto, you must press the ISO button and turn the sub-command dial to toggle between them. It would be handy if you could put all the ISO options on a single, fast control. So, I could select my ISO manually with the lens function ring as I can now, but when I want to go back into Auto ISO, I'd simply turn the ring to the bottom or top of the range.

6. In addition to Nikon, I also shoot Sony and I have to tell you that zebra stripes for exposure are incredibly helpful. While the histogram is handy too, it's tough to spot small, clipped highlights with it and it covers up part of the photo. No such issue with zebra stripes - they don't cover any image area and spotting even a tiny flashing bit of clipped highlight is easy. I think that this would be a welcome addition for many shooters.

7. I'd also love to see recall shooting available with different settings for each button. Recall shooting is an incredibly powerful option and allowing every button to have its own (different) recall shooting options would offer a level of flexibility unheard of in most cameras. As a quick example, you could have one button programmed for slower subjects and another programmed for faster ones. This would make instant changes in the field incredibly fast.

8. AF areas on the lens control ring. Another handy option would be switching AF areas by turning the lens control ring. Using the proper AF area can make a huge difference in outcome and having a nearly instant way to do it would be a nice upgrade.

9. Another option that would be nice for changing AF areas is to have the camera switch from area to area with the press of a button. So, for example, you'd program Fn1 as your toggle button and one press would get you from the AF area you're currently using to the next one in the sequence. Sony allows you to do this and it makes changing AF areas incredibly fast. Although I still think having them on the control ring would be faster, it would be nice to have both options.

10. A handy upgrade would be an option that allows us to lock in the current settings for our photo shooting banks. As it stands now, any changes I make while in a given photo shooting bank changes that setting to the new default for that bank. Ideally, it would be nice if each bank had an option to "lock in current settings." That way, a user could set up a bank for a general scenario and make small tweaks as needed for the specific situation in the viewfinder. However, instead of those tweaks becoming the new default for that bank, when the user goes into another bank and then back, they would get the original settings they had when they first locked them in.

In short, it would be handy to know that when you go back to a particular photo shooting bank, it's always set a certain way. I honestly don't use the photo shooting banks myself at the moment because they don't recall my preferred settings for that bank. If I have to go in and make adjustments anyway, there's not much point in using them unless you typically have to change a LOT of settings. Also, this lock should absolutely apply to the shutter speed, F/stop and ISO settings if Extended menu banks are turned on - that's where it would be the most useful.

10a - This is a continuation of 10. It would also be nice to have the option to link photo shooting banks to a specific custom setting bank. That way maybe I could link custom setting bank a to photo shooting bank a (or b, or c) and have a far more effective customization at my fingertips without jumping around between menus.

That's it. I appreciate your consideration.

That was the end of the letter, but there are always other things to add. :)

In addition, I'd of course like to see AF improved to at least a1 levels. That didn't make the list (I think they know). Plus, I'd like to see a LOT more customization offered - my a1 has 164 items I can assign, the Z9, only 62. And, as noted in my letter above, there are some very valuable items that could be added.

Hardware:​

In addition to the firmware ideas I sent Nikon, I think a few hardware updates would be handy as well.

Obviously, these ideas would require a new camera, a Z9ii

First, I think we need an extra button on the back that we can assign. Just the AF-On button isn't enough. It would be nice to have another AF area / function avaialbe in that prime real estate area.

A better EVF would be nice - the current one is good, but I think if it were right erred, it would be better. I often forget I'm looking at an EVF with my a1 - with the Z9, not so much.

A deeper buffer would be great - something that allowed 30 FPS with lossless RAW and RAW pre-capture.

I also think we need more dials. There's a lot of empty space on top that could be used for a customizable dial that allows exp comp, ISO etc. I'd also like to see a "ring" on the back of the camera like Sony and Canon has. The Sony one not only turns, but allows button pushes at all the cardinal points and three of those are customizable.

Also, fix the eyepiece for the viewfinder - the little rubber thing likes to come off (and it's not just my camera - I saw it a lot over the summer during workshops).

The camera could also use a much better latch for the memory card door. I loved the ones with the D5/6, this is sometimes a pain to open by comparison.

Finally, weight - the Z9 is just heavier than it needs to be IMO. Sony and Canon have pro mirrorless that don't feel like you're holding a hunk of lead, Nikon can do it too.

Whew, that's the main stuff. I have lots of other little things too for both firmware and hardware, but those are the big ones I'd like to see,.
Never understood why when you set up a Shooting Bank it does not retain the default setting, your item 10.
 
The banks on the Z9 act the same way they have since Nikon introduced them in the D# series (maybe at the D3..?). Also in the D850, same non-memory in banks. I never liked it then and don’t now, so my “solution” is not to use banks. Oh well.
 
Some really great suggestions and ideas,

i feel like the Z6 was very ordinary, then followed up with the Z6II excellent but still lacking, the Z9will a see Z9II then a A9III A9IV LOL, so its important to time the selling of to update, if the benefits are there, hence i feel with cameras we are now in a era of more frequent camera changes like phone model changes, also more frequently.
I think the Z9 has a lot to catch up on.........not only in its self but compared to the competition, as consumers we will will always want more, that's who we are LOL.
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My biggest issue with the Z9 for me is weight, it doesn't worry me anywhere else, but if i am hiking for wild life, but its not a total deal breaker.
We are seeing light long glass emerging, i think the Z8 will match that lighter compact need for may to compliment the lighter glass..

Only an opinion
Great list. I especially would like points 7 (more recall shooting settings to be available), as well as point 10 (for shooting banks which revert to the standard settings one set up in each one in the first place). I remember asking Steve a few months ago, before I knew about these forums, whether it was possible to save 3 settings into one Fn button for instant recourse to them in a wildlife situation on the Z6. Well no chance of that but I had already run into the problem in the bush of coming across say a lion dozing under a tree, but then also wanting to be able to grab a BIF as it took off from a branch at the top of the tree. Totally different settings needed in the blink of an eye. Happily the Z9 affords much more promise in this direction but agreed, some improvements would be welcomed. Then I ask myself, are we ever happy with what we have.. I am looking forward to the new experience with the Z9 as soon as I can get into the bush again.
 
Steve,
What about Auto AF Area Starting Point? My D6 had it and my wife really liked using it for candid photography. I frequently used it on my backyard hummers at the feeders.

To quote you from Secrets to the Nikon Autofocus System... "This is another fantastic addition to the Nikon AF system and solves a major problem many of us have with the normal Auto AF area."

Of course, this would apply to both the Z9 and Z8.
 
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