There is a YouTube that I watched on using banks B, C and D to store your settings. The idea is to then copy into bank A and always use bank A when shooting. That way you never erase or change your “stored” settings. I use this process. Only downside is when I forget to switch to bank A and start making changes while in another bank while shooting…
Nikon Z9 RSF (Hold), Shooting Menu Banks, Extended Menu Banks and Custom Settings Banks
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Anjin San
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Couple options. First up is the RSF Hold option…if you are in bank A and select RSF Hold with no changes specified…then you can change whatever you want and those settings will stick in RSF Hold but if you go out of RSF Hold it might revert to whatever bank A had before you engaged RSF (note, I haven't tried this one, just speculating on a possible solution). Second…edit your banks for you 'base' set of settings and then save the most to card. Go in the field, select bank A and adjust willy nilly as needed with the proviso that whatever you change in bank A will stick there…it isn't like the User settings on the Z5/6/7/50 series. Then when you want to get back to your base settings…just reload them from card and you're good to go. Hudson does this approach and it is probably one I'll adopt once I finally get my settings down. In the interim, I have A for action, B for non action, C for working and that's what I'm in the most. C started as a copy of A that gets modified a lot and when that slows down I'll copy C back to A. Bank D is the base settings I made and that got copied to A and B before getting modified for their designed scenarios.
Personally…I think I prefer the User modes and if they were expanded to include the expanded settings, covered both shooting and custom settings they would be the perfect solution for me…set U1 for action and adjust as needed then power cycle the body to get back to the base action settings…the drawback there is if the camera goes into standby I would have to remember whether they got reset to base stored settings or left the way they were.
I would also like the ability to save more than one set of settings and name them…one should be able to save "everything" in a single file that you can name and one should be able to save Bank a as some name. That would allow the ability to have more than 4 settings and load the one you need now. Of course…with shooting banks and custom setting banks which generally get switched together maybe saving Bank A saves both shooting and custom banks to a filename one prefers. Likewise, being able to save settings either in body or to card would be an attractive option to me as well.
Personally…I think I prefer the User modes and if they were expanded to include the expanded settings, covered both shooting and custom settings they would be the perfect solution for me…set U1 for action and adjust as needed then power cycle the body to get back to the base action settings…the drawback there is if the camera goes into standby I would have to remember whether they got reset to base stored settings or left the way they were.
I would also like the ability to save more than one set of settings and name them…one should be able to save "everything" in a single file that you can name and one should be able to save Bank a as some name. That would allow the ability to have more than 4 settings and load the one you need now. Of course…with shooting banks and custom setting banks which generally get switched together maybe saving Bank A saves both shooting and custom banks to a filename one prefers. Likewise, being able to save settings either in body or to card would be an attractive option to me as well.
Anjin San
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Changes are saved to the bank but not to disk unless you go to Save/Load and save them to the card. Once everything is set up…but then it probably never will be…Save to card and then when I screw up I can reload from card. As I said before…I'm still tweaking my settings but I do periodically save to card so that I can recover from oopsies.
Anjin San
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Solution is not to format the card but erase all images instead. Hudson has gotten to where he chimps in the field and locks the selected 'good' images then erases all images which erases everything but the locked ones. That way he's culled in the field and has far fewer to look at later on. Me…I would never mass delete in the field although if I were getting driven or flown or boated to the next location I might chimp a bit and delete obviously bad images in the field…but as I'm usually either hiking or doing the driving that really isn't an issue. FastRawViewer or import into LR and then mark x on bad images and mass delete the x'ed ones there seems a better idea overall to me. He admits that this new technique is controversial though…but for him he says he likes it.
Formatting cards periodically is't a bad idea due to file fragmentation and other potential issues…but for me it's like monthly or more instead of every outing. And when I do re-format them…I format and then immediately save settings. Realistically though…deleting all images should get rid of any fragmentation issues, although it's possible that it is just the directory entries that get erased which might not solve fragmentation…so periodic format followed by save settings is good.
The idea of keeping your 3 sets of settings in B, C, and D and copying whatever you need now to A also has some merit…as long as you're smart enough to switch to A after you copy them. Not quite as fast as a simple switch from A to B…but still reasonable and your base settings in B through D remain untouched. The most important idea here is to pick a solution and stick to it so it becomes muscle memory.
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eft
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It's great that you can save settings to disk and restore them later; however, I don't want to do this everytime I tweak the settings in an active bank or RSF. I certainly don't think that was the intent. My conclusion is that the current firmware doesn't allow for the use case described in my original post unless I diligently only use a bank or RSF to change a specific setting in the field. For now, I have reasonable muscle memory to quickly tweak settings like AF-area via the i-menu. Hopefully, Nikon will add Release Mode to the configurable i-menu options in the future.
peter wolf
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If you use the recall function button which I normally set to the FN2 on the lens it will recall the settings you made unless you change them whilst holding the button I can’t find a better setting for jumping quickly for shutter speeds iso frame rate etc from your normal settings I suggest you give it a go as it’s so simple to set up that you’ll find out very quickly whether it’s suits your needs
This isn't advice or criticism. This is just a few general remarks about reformatting a memory card everytime you delete some files based on decades of being a computer and electronics geek. I know it's what's taught by the Nikon do after a firmware update. I do it everytime. I have no idea why it matters but I still do it.
WIthout going into detail that just doesn't matter, a CF Express card is the same memory that is the so called "hard" drive in my computer that's actually an NVME M.2 GEN 4.0 Solid State memory slug. Computer hard drives don't reformat themselves everytime data is written or read or files are erased or added. Here's the CF Express Wiki for anyone who wants to go deeper. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFexpress
In the extreme, settings and backup data can be kept on a separate card you pop in and out when you want to make changes to the way the camera operates. Ritual reformating of state of the art NVME memory doesn't happen in any other device I've ever heard of and everything seems to work just fine. It kind of defeats the pupose of using a memory card to store tools (settings) you hope to use in the field and then delete them by reformating every day.
I do scan them with Norton everytime they go into the card reader just like I scan my hard drives daily.
This is just opinion, but to give an example of how little I think it matters, I grab memory cards out of a pouch in my backpack that might have been formatted in my D850 and use them in my Z7 or Z9 for example. To me they are just blank memory cards that I am going to record data ontoand download later to my computer. If it fits the memory slot I use it. They haven't been reformated because there is stuff on them I don't want to be erased and might want when they go back into the camera they originally came out of. Probably a pretty lazy habit but whatever camera I put it in the camera properly stores images to the card. The only minor drawback is that the card reader reports the card as the original device that formated it but the computer knows what camera created the data it contains. The title of the card just doesn't matter.
It's just what works for me. I hope it helps someone.