Photoshop v 25 with Generative AI

[Ivan Rothman]

Photoshop has just released a version 25.0 update which now puts the new AI powered generative tools into Photoshop. Previously only available in beta version.
The tools include Generative Expand Generative Fill Generative Remove (if you choose Generative Fill but leave the text box describing what you want blank)
Filled area still limited to something like 1400 pixels but this may improve in further updates.
This looks like it will be fun to play with although it clearly may cross the line from a picture you legitimately created to a "fake" image - for example I can now put polar bears in my pictures from Antarctica or penguins in my pictures from the Arctic.

 

[SandyW]

I have been using the beta version, but I'm holding off on the new version. It sounds like some of the on/off again problems with the beta may have returned with the "release" version. Fixes/workarounds usually involve the dreaded clear all preferences or reinstall LR/PS etc. I will be installing it, but I want the dust to settle a bit first.

 

[Ivan Rothman]

I have been using the beta version, but I'm holding off on the new version. It sounds like some of the on/off again problems with the beta may have returned with the "release" version. Fixes/workarounds usually involve the dreaded clear all preferences or reinstall LR/PS etc. I will be installing it, but I want the dust to settle a bit first.

That sounds like very good advice
I’ll wait awhile before upgrading

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

Some basics in this video from the beta version. Skip to 330. just for ideas. Easier ways to expand area now.
I installed v25 this morning and will report back if I find issues.

 

[Annamaria]

Since it’s out of Beta….I read this. I’m not sure what it means really…

Until November 1st, all creative cloud subscribers will have unlimited generative fill credits. After that, you will have a limit on the number of generations you can use. For most users, it will be 100 credits per month….

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

I think it’s a limit on how much usage per month. Here’s the info for the photography plans.



Until November 1, 2023, Creative Cloud, Adobe Firefly, Adobe Express, and Adobe Stock paid subscribers won't be subject to generative credit limits and can continue creating beyond their plan-specific monthly credit limit.

After November 1, 2023, generative credit limits will be enforced, with paid users either experiencing slower use of the features or receiving a daily generation cap. Also, Adobe plans for users to be able to purchase additional priority processing generative credits through a new subscription plan, starting at US$4.99/month for 100 credits.

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

FWIW been using for the last hour or so and have had no issues. I recommend going through the 7 step video tutorial when it launches.

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

Example
Original with expanded canvas for generative fill.


Generative fill



Generative Fill gives you three versions - here is another:

 

[NorthernFocus]

Example
Original with expanded canvas for generative fill.


Generative fill



Generative Fill gives you three versions - here is another:

That's pretty cool. When I read about this I couldn't imagine a use for it but this is a perfect example. TFS.

 

[Nimi]

It's a great tool. I can now get all aspect ratios to clients with a single shot by filling in the background. And I use it for vids too

 

[Nimi]

The transition from Beta to PS seems to go smoothly, everything works. If you use Edit In Photoshop in LRC, don't forget to update the preferences so it opens it.

 

[David Berry]

The mid-September 2023 Adobe Photography Plan updates include three versions of Photoshop :

• Ps Beta — v.25.1
• Ps 2024 — v.25.0
• Ps 2023 — v.24.7.1

Try all three and settle on the one that suits you best!

There will be no need to figure out how to return to Ps 2023 if you don't like Ps 2024 or Ps Beta.

… David

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[David Berry]

If you use "Edit In Photoshop" in LrC, update the preferences.

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[bleirer]

I've tried the new non beta one, seems fine so far. You can now pin that annoying but sometimes useful contextual bar wherever you want it. Plus there are improvements in the remove tool and gradient tool, or so they say.

 

[bleirer]

That's pretty cool. When I read about this I couldn't imagine a use for it but this is a perfect example. TFS.

Plus it can be repeated or we can refine the prompt as often as desired, so not limited to 3 options.

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

So far beyond the fill and remove I haven't found the AI to be that good, for example adding California Poppies or a grizzly bear. I guess I have to learn more about the prompts.

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

I thought for the hell of it I would see what I could add. Needs more work. I tried both fly and house fly and couldn't get a common, black annoying fly though.

 

[Winston Churchill (Sir)]

GF is soooo much fun. Everything you can do with GF could be done before - it would just take 10.7 months longer

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[Winston Churchill (Sir)]

if you are not interested in anything other than wildlife and nature - don't read further.

I am inquisitive - so I look at everything and learn what I can.

A set of images created with AI - I know this isn't wildlife - and it isn't photographs created with a camera. Inspiring on another level - specifically as it brings emotion into the set.

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EDIT : NOTE it isn't my photos. All images © Julian Cash 2023.

 

[BarkingBeans Coffee]

if you are not interested in anything other than wildlife and nature - don't read further.

I am inquisitive - so I look at everything and learn what I can.

A set of images created with AI - I know this isn't wildlife - and it isn't photographs created with a camera. Inspiring on another level - specifically as it brings emotion into the set.

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Those are crazy fun. Would be curious to get more detail on what commands you used. PM if you like.

 

[Winston Churchill (Sir)]

Those are crazy fun. Would be curious to get more detail on what commands you used. PM if you like.

it is not my work Mr Coffee - Burning Man: All images © Julian Cash 2023.

 

[Nimi]

it is not my work Mr Coffee - Burning Man: All images © Julian Cash 2023.

No (c), AI cannot be copyrighted...

 

[sh1209]

There is one snafu with generative fill. I use luminosity masks on nearly all my images and if you use generative fill prior to that you will see the grainy area due to it being lower MP. I’m honestly not a fan at this point until it has matching capabilities as far as MP. I think the remove tool is the best addition in a long time and in most cases is far better than the clone tool. This grain will also show up if you return the image back to LRC and drop the exposure in the background for instance. It’s not the end of the world but something to be aware of.

 

[Whiskeyman]

Intriguing.

 

[Annamaria]

This is very good information!