Sony A1 or Nikon Z8

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If possible, could you rent both systems ? It's a big investment and best to figure out which system you really want BEFORE you buy. Our local photo shop has rentals at a very reasonable rate and then if you purchase after the rental amount may possibly go towards your purchase.
Your suggestion makes sense. However, if you look 9 posts up, the OP has already decided, purchased the Sony A1.
 
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If possible, could you rent both systems ? It's a big investment and best to figure out which system you really want BEFORE you buy. Our local photo shop has rentals at a very reasonable rate and then if you purchase after the rental amount may possibly go towards your purchase.
Always a healthy way to go
 
The question should be which Sony camera is comparable in features and price to the Z8 camera. Big difference to be in buying two Z8 cameras at $4000 each versus two A1 cameras at $6500 each. More comparable to the Z8 is the Sony a7R V camera at $3,900.

For trips I want two similar cameras so one can have a zoom lens attached and the other camera with a super telephoto lens attached. This approach also provides me with a backup camera should one develop problems or get damaged in some manner.
 
The question should be which Sony camera is comparable in features and price to the Z8 camera. Big difference to be in buying two Z8 cameras at $4000 each versus two A1 cameras at $6500 each. More comparable to the Z8 is the Sony a7R V camera at $3,900.

For trips I want two similar cameras so one can have a zoom lens attached and the other camera with a super telephoto lens attached. This approach also provides me with a backup camera should one develop problems or get damaged in some manner.
The OP was buying a Sony A1 at a much discounted price that wasn't that much higher than he could get the Z8.
 
The question should be which Sony camera is comparable in features and price to the Z8 camera. Big difference to be in buying two Z8 cameras at $4000 each versus two A1 cameras at $6500 each. More comparable to the Z8 is the Sony a7R V camera at $3,900.

For trips I want two similar cameras so one can have a zoom lens attached and the other camera with a super telephoto lens attached. This approach also provides me with a backup camera should one develop problems or get damaged in some manner.
but how many people could afford that luxury?, it'll be one good camera for me with one zoom lens and that's it (y)
 
It does and so does the Z8. The Z8 has shorter shooting time and I was simply replying to the comment that 8 is superior to 1. It's not if you shoot 8k, 4/120 for more than a few minutes.

Neither is a video camera, both will produce great files, and both will overheat.
It depends a lot on the CF card you are using. And using a Power bank it also helps the overheating.
 
It depends a lot on the CF card you are using. And using a Power bank it also helps the overheating.
Yes, but it overheats and external powerbank is a bandaid. On the 8 I was able to squeeze 24 minutes on the coolest card shooting 4k/60. If you're a heavy video shooter, this isn't the camera for you.
 
Yes, but it overheats and external powerbank is a bandaid. On the 8 I was able to squeeze 24 minutes on the coolest card shooting 4k/60. If you're a heavy video shooter, this isn't the camera for you.
maybe it's more of a "tool in your toolkit" vs a bandaid. we should note that the z9 can overheat as well, it just doesn't do it as easily.

but yes, if you're doing high-bit, long-form video, the z8 may not be the optimal choice
 
maybe it's more of a "tool in your toolkit" vs a bandaid. we should note that the z9 can overheat as well, it just doesn't do it as easily.

but yes, if you're doing high-bit, long-form video, the z8 may not be the optimal choice

I tried and failed to get my Z9s to overheat.
 
I am a Nikon guy. I've been shooting Nikon since 2007 I think. so when I got my D500 I was waiting for Nikon to get their act together with the AF of their mirrorless cameras to meet or exceed with D500's AF ability. I got the Z9 (January, 2nd batch) I think you are at this point splitting hairs with the AF system from Sony A1 and Canon R3/R5. The Z9 has a longer learning curve but if you learn it properly, there isn't any shot the A1/R3/R5 will get you the Z9 can't and vice versa. I also knwo the menu system much better AND the Nikon metering system which is not a small thing to me than learning a new system.

The lens lineup is at this point really second to none. Sony may have a few more lenses but the quality of similar lenses I feel are superior at this point. Certainly without a doubt their long glass is far superior at this point (400TC, 600TC, 800PF and 400f4.5). I also can't use a point and shoot size camera like an A1. So for me the size matters. So don't forget that you aren't just buying a new body but buying into a full system which includes the lenses.

That said, for me, if you are considering the A1 at $6500, I would certainly look at the Z9 over the Z8. Battery being one of the main reasons, and the battery life is significantly better with the Z9. The 2CFE car slots are important as the SD slot is mostly useless unless you are shooting landscape/portrait/street/astro type genre, in other words no action/sports/fast wildlife. Then the heat issues even in stills can be frustrating.

I Would seriously consider the Z9 which is still cheaper that the A1 and superior to the Z8 with the best weather sealing, a true flagship body that should much more robust and durable that the A1. I also agree the ergos is a big deciding factor but one can use used to button placement, but as much size and weight. So unless the .9 pounds difference the to the Z9 to the Z8, I'd really look at the Z9 as well.

Just my thoughts and 2 cents
 
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