I purchased an A93 when they first came out, I love it. I still have my A1, but there is something about shooting with the A93 that is just fun. I love shooting at the different fps to see what action I've been missing. I have no intentions of selling it, even though I'll probably get the A1II in the near future. PreCapture with the ability to capture images at the higher frame rate make it a keeper for me.
Sony A9iii why so many not keeping?
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Yeah, the pre-capture or something I am really interested in trying and perhaps the a 93 would be a better fit since I already have the current A1
My feelings exactly.
Pre capture opens up new doors. No doubt about it if FPS is high enough and RAW then you’ll use it a lot more than you think you would. I wouldn’t use it if I was stuck with jpeg.
sh1209
At B&H the Sony A9iii is $6000. An OM-1 mk 2, $1900 on Amazon, plus an Olympus 300f4, $2800 at Adorama, is still $1500 cheaper even if you already have a Sony 600f4 lens. Both shoot high f/s in pre-capture in RAW. This is why I recommend the OM Systems rig over the Sony A9iii.
However, choosing between 50mp @ 30 f/s and 60/120 f/s at 24mp is a difficult choice. You really need both plus a large buffer.
In addition, if you like the subject large in the frame as I do, I find that I need a zoom to properly frame the image in order to provide the space in the frame where the BIF will be. Typically, when I shoot a prime in other than a controlled situation I either don't have enough reach and the resultant image requires excessive cropping, or I am too close, and the wings get clipped on the shot I really want.
My current solution, believe it or not, is an OM-1 mk 2 plus a 100-400 and a 1.4 TC @ 120 f/s. This is a $3500 solution. At 1100mm+ (ff equ) I can keep the crop reasonable, and I get lots of choices. (Obviously I need lots of light.)
The better and more expensive solution is the $7500 Olympus 150-400 which seems to outperform any zoom and is equivalent to my prime according to reports, but I haven't spent the money yet.
At B&H the Sony A9iii is $6000. An OM-1 mk 2, $1900 on Amazon, plus an Olympus 300f4, $2800 at Adorama, is still $1500 cheaper even if you already have a Sony 600f4 lens. Both shoot high f/s in pre-capture in RAW. This is why I recommend the OM Systems rig over the Sony A9iii.
However, choosing between 50mp @ 30 f/s and 60/120 f/s at 24mp is a difficult choice. You really need both plus a large buffer.
In addition, if you like the subject large in the frame as I do, I find that I need a zoom to properly frame the image in order to provide the space in the frame where the BIF will be. Typically, when I shoot a prime in other than a controlled situation I either don't have enough reach and the resultant image requires excessive cropping, or I am too close, and the wings get clipped on the shot I really want.
My current solution, believe it or not, is an OM-1 mk 2 plus a 100-400 and a 1.4 TC @ 120 f/s. This is a $3500 solution. At 1100mm+ (ff equ) I can keep the crop reasonable, and I get lots of choices. (Obviously I need lots of light.)
The better and more expensive solution is the $7500 Olympus 150-400 which seems to outperform any zoom and is equivalent to my prime according to reports, but I haven't spent the money yet.
I have contemplated the OM1 for quite some time to be honest. Their 90mm macro lens is the cream of the crop and no company produces anything close. What is that focal length equivalent to in full frame as far as that zoom?
180 mm. It’s double full frame.
Okay I thought that was what it wasn't but wasn't positive
Also get 2 extra stops of depth of field. Handy for macro and disadvantage for wildlife.
2x crop equals 2x (ff eq) and 2x effective F/stop. I have the 90. Amazing macro lens and the OM-1 can do merge 15 frames to increase DOF in camera.
The 150-400 is 800 ff equ + 1 1.2 crop=1000 ffequ
The 100-400+1.4 tc is 1120 FF equ.
Yeah the macro capabilities are what has tempted me in the past. I really wish Sony, Sigma or some other company would make a 2X lens for e-mount
Same reason I’ve looked at one.
Get the OM-1 mk2 if you do. Much better SP AF than the OM-1 mk 1.
How is it different than the OM-D E M1 Mark II?
It appears that the OM-1 does everything the OM-D E M1 mk iii does. For BIF the stacked sensor of the OM-1 is key but for macro maybe no advantage.
Tom
The OM-D E M1 mkii can be had used under $600. That’s tempting to pair with the 90macro.
YES.
So the stacked sensor is the only difference? I’m guessing that’s blackout shooting? Do they both have bug af? What about in camera photo stacking?
Their cameras actually stack the images in camera lol
I am not familiar with the OM-D, I am with the OM-1 both mk 1 and mk 2.
The OM-1, mk 2 has in-camera stacking up to 15 images. Neither has subject ID: bugs.
I shot super macro underwater for years. The 90 can be shot @ F/11 effectively, much higher than the 60mm or 30mm so you get 180MM ff equivalent. I found the AF on the Om-1 mk 1 difficult as the AF would move. the secret is to make a custom 1 x 1 AF box and use it. That worked. The mk 2 has no such problem and the mk 1's AF may have been fixed in the last firmware update. (The mk 1 can be had for $1000.)
That’s awesome!
Yeah I’ve been tempted more than a few times for macro shooting
Black Friday sales.
I haven’t checked the om prices but should
I have a loaner you can borrow. I also have multiple strobes and flash shades. I don't do macro when on a bird trip.
tom