What is your top price for the Sony A1 Mark ii

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bleirer said:
Not a Sony guy, but I imagine they are aware of the competition. So above a Z9 but below a R1. Maybe $6000 would seem competitive in the marketplace. What are the rumors saying?
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That's funny how things have changed...!! You could have bought 3 1/2 Volkswagen Beetles in 1973 for six grand...I know, no comparison but it is funny...
 
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BarryR said:
They didn't get in the top 1% class by buying way overpriced cameras....
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eh. buying way overpriced cameras certainly didn't hinder them from being in the top 1%.

there's so much wealth in the world, especially in America that it's nearly unfathomable. even $8K is a drop in the bucket for a lot of people. I've been invited to birthday dinners that cost more than that...
 
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How much I would be willing to pay depends on what game-changing features it has. I'd like pre-capture and a flippy screen but other than this I'm very happy with the classic A1. And the flippy screen isn't a big deal for me. Surprise me, Sony; then we can talk about pricing.
 
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RikWriter said:
Can we not get political in this forum?
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I wasn't aware that making a statement about general wealth in the world is automatically political. I specifically chose not to make a comment on one side or another to prevent any potential politics talk.

I changed the wording to make it more clear hopefully..

Apologies if it came off the wrong way.
 
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nmerc_photos said:
The A1 originally MSRP'd at $6500 right?

My guess is going to be $6,999 then. I don't see a reason for them to decrease the price, and as someone else mentioned I can see them slapping an "inflation adjusted" label on it and sending it off to the world.
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I hope you’re right and it does stay around that amount or less. I still go back to what I said the other day and that is, if I were the head of their marketing, I would absolutely shock the Camera community and bring this thing out at $5999. The reason I say that is, you have both Canon and Nikon producing pro bodies for far less money. Will the A1 generation two be better than those? Who knows! A reason for saying this is, not only what people buy the camera, but it would potentially bring others in to replace their entire systems. This would in turn generate tons of revenue for Sony for people doing a system switch. I live in Missouri and drive all over the place in this area. I have only ran into one other person that uses a Sony camera. 99.5% of the people are run into in this area, shoot Cannon and Nikon. The reason that I get from everyone I ask is, the price of the bodies are too expensive. In fact, I talked to one gentleman about a month ago that said, why would I buy a $6500 camera, when I can nearly buy Z8 Nikon bodies.
 
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It likely will come down to how much they sink into R&D and manufacturing costs that will set the "floor" for pricing, and how much they leapfrog past Nikon and Canon that might set their ceiling; then up to Marketing to find the sweet spot. And whether they are just selling to their current captured Sony audience who are upgrading vs. seeking converts from Nikon and Canon. It is a different competitive market now than when the A1 came out. I don't care how low they price an A1 replacement. I love my Nikon Z9 and Z lens collection in which I am heavily invested. I almost switched from the D850 to Sony A1 and lens universe back when there seemed no good reason to move to the inferior (compared to Sony) Nikon mirrorless bodies/lenses. Now there is almost nothing they can realistically offer at any price that will move me from Nikon... If they want to sell to the captured Sony-ites, they can and will set the price higher than if they are trying to parasitize from competition where the camera would be a loss leader to sell the lenses; suspect that was Nikon's thinking with the Z9.
 
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IMO it boils down to remembering that cameras are just "tools". Does a SnapOn tool perform better than a Craftsman? Both do the same job with excellent results. It seems that there are folks out there that must have the latest gear regardless of price. I'm not one of those. As we know about technology, it will always be rapidly changing and those changes are aimed at our pocketbooks. Many great products to choose from, and many are so close in performance that making a choice is often a challenge. Best to read reviews and customer comments and then decide for one's self what is best for them based on what it will be used for (wildlife,landscape etc). Like a pro mentioned recently "bodies come and go, but really good glass is where it's at". My current D850 will have to suffice for a while since I've invested more in high glass rather than another body that will be replaced soon.
 
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Dave Wo said:
IMO it boils down to remembering that cameras are just "tools". Does a SnapOn tool perform better than a Craftsman? Both do the same job with excellent results. It seems that there are folks out there that must have the latest gear regardless of price. I'm not one of those. As we know about technology, it will always be rapidly changing and those changes are aimed at our pocketbooks. Many great products to choose from, and many are so close in performance that making a choice is often a challenge. Best to read reviews and customer comments and then decide for one's self what is best for them based on what it will be used for (wildlife,landscape etc). Like a pro mentioned recently "bodies come and go, but really good glass is where it's at". My current D850 will have to suffice for a while since I've invested more in high glass rather than another body that will be replaced soon.
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I agree and honestly image quality hasn't improved one iota since the days of the D850 in my opinion. Most things now are gimmicks and some folks will always fall for them. I have owned the A1 over now 2 years and have never one time shot in excess of 20 fps, so increasing that doesn't tempt me in the least. I also own the A7RV which has all the things that were missing in the A1 for my use such as focus bracketing. It would take something phenomenal to even tempt me to but the gen2, at least right away.
 
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arbitrage said:
I might pay up to $7K USD. But I don’t think Sony can expect success without staying at $6.5K. Even Canon didn’t surpass that number with the R1 (even though R1 could be viewed as more of an A93 competitor than A1II). Nikon is putting a lot of downwards pressure on an A1II and even the R5II is as well. The A9III’s $1.5K price increase was a bit of a shocker. But there was some ground breaking tech with the GS so hopefully that isn’t a predictor of A1II as long as it stays with a non-GS sensor.
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True but to see dealers selling brand new A9iii for $1,500 off MSRP in such a short period since its release was pretty surprising. Give the market has certainly change since the A1 was released in January 2021, I would say Sony will try and keep an A1ii at $6,500... highly unlikely it would be less.
 
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robert_in_ca said:
True but to see dealers selling brand new A9iii for $1,500 off MSRP in such a short period since its release was pretty surprising. Give the market has certainly change since the A1 was released in January 2021, I would say Sony will try and keep an A1ii at $6,500... highly unlikely it would be less.
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I absolutely agree with this statement. I think they found out with the A93 that people were not going to spend that much. I think if they come in well over $7000 with the A1 2 it will be the same scenario. The way I feel, nothing they can introduce is going to make my current A1 obsolete or insufficient in any way. If they do make some meaningful improvements and come in around the same price, then at that point, I might consider selling my current A1 and purchasing another. I’ve seen the same scenario play out with the A7RV several times now has been marked off $500 within a few months of it coming on the market. A lot of people that do take photography seriously are on a budget and there’s certainly not enough rich people buying cameras to keep the Camera companies in business. At least that’s my two cents.
 
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