Which brand has best camera/lens IBIS?

[Lance B]

The 200-800 doesn't have the same dimensions when it's zoomed out to 800mm. And from what I've read the IQ doesn't appear to match the 150-400.

Yes, but it also doesn't match the price. I am sure if Canon decided to make a top spec lens for a similar price it would be as good or better than the Olympus. The point I was making is that the size and weight of the lens can be equivalent to the Olympus when you consider the M4/3 to FF difference.

 

[BillthePill]

Yes, but it also doesn't match the price. I am sure if Canon decided to make a top spec lens for a similar price it would be as good or better than the Olympus. The point I was making is that the size and weight of the lens can be equivalent to the Olympus when you consider the M4/3 to FF difference.

The point I'm making is that size and weight balance of the lenses are not equivalent when shooting.

 

[Lance B]

The point I'm making is that size and weight balance of the lenses are not equivalent when shooting.

But they are also of similar weight and dimensions.

 

[Roy]

Being respectful of the no brand bashing rule…

I have a significant essential tremor and require good IBIS not just for getting sharp images, but also for steadying the viewfinder.

In my haste to switch back to the lighter OM system, I had forgotten that the OM system doesn’t provide me with the steady view finder. It leaves me feeling like a bit of an idiot.

Unfortunately in using Sony, Canon and Nikon I didn’t keep any records of how they were.

My Z9/Z6II with 400 f/4.5 was definitely better than my OM-1 Marks I and II and 300 mm f/4.5.

I appreciate any opinions you folks may have.

Cheers,

George

On longer lenses - in lens VR works best.
On short lenses - IBIS works best.
Also some extra weight helps keep the camera steady ...

 

[geoawelch]

Maybe you should try to decrease the tremor, rather than try to find the "best" IBIS. Do you drink coffee? If so, change to decaffeinated. Same for soft drinks. Dark chocolate is a surprising source of caffeine. Medications can also help. Have you tried any (usually beta blockers)?
With regard to IBIS, I can only echo what I hear from camera reviews and I only listen to reviews of Nikon, Sony, and Canon camera: Nikon is best, Sony is close, and Canon is not so good. However, recent reviews of the recently released Canon R5 II suggest that it is much better than previous Canon models.
I have a Nikon Z9 and am able to get sharp images at 600mm and 1/100 second hand held with regularity.

Thanks but this is a chronic problem that doesn’t improve, instead you try to manage it.

 

[O]

Nikon have introduced a new IBIS system ie: ZF Z6III no doubt we will see it in the Z7III, Z9II, Z8II.
The new IBIS along with improved low light focus sensitivity added makes a good combination that is deemed better that the Z8 Z9.

That said what glass your using can really add a tremendous amount to the outcome, the point being its the synergy of glass and camera that is important.

I can't speak for other brands form personal expense.

What is it your are mostly doing.

 

[Len Shepherd]

But they are also of similar weight and dimensions.

This seems to me a bit off topic - though the answer depends.
When you consider the angle of view gain with 4:3 relative to 24x36 the 4:3 OM system is significantly lighter.
As an example the 4:3 150-400 with inbuilt 1.25 TC that gets to 1000mm FF equivalent is significantly lighter and also smaller than the Z 600mm TC.The 600 TC has a small aperture gain at 400mm yet gets to 750mm with no practical aperture gain with the inbuilt 1.4 TC.

I assume (but do not know why) that the 4:3 IBIS is more "efficient" as it is reported 8 stop. It has to cope with a greater camera shake effect because of the crop sensor "magnification" and yet needs to move the IBIS unit less distance as it is a smaller size.

This aside the effect in a photographers hands is more important than technical specifications.

 

[Lance B]

This seems to me a bit off topic - though the answer depends.
When you consider the angle of view gain with 4:3 relative to 24x36 the 4:3 OM system is significantly lighter.
As an example the 4:3 150-400 with inbuilt 1.25 TC that gets to 1000mm FF equivalent is significantly lighter and also smaller than the Z 600mm TC.The 600 TC has a small aperture gain at 400mm yet gets to 750mm with no practical aperture gain with the inbuilt 1.4 TC.

I assume (but do not know why) that the 4:3 IBIS is more "efficient" as it is reported 8 stop. It has to cope with a greater camera shake effect because of the crop sensor "magnification" and yet needs to move the IBIS unit less distance as it is a smaller size.

This aside the effect in a photographers hands is more important than technical specifications.

You missed my previous posts regarding the Canon 200-800 f6.3-9 which is a similar size and weight to the Oly 150-400 f4.5, which was being discussed. The Canon is US$1900, the Oly is US$7,500. This is not really the right comparison as the Canon is obviously built down to a price whereas the Oly is a more professional grade lens. Canon could have made a professional grade lens that was both lighter and better quality to match the Oly for sure and I am sure Nikon could as well. The point is, there is no free lunch and equivalence comes into play whether it be aperture, ISO noise, IBIS ability, focal length, Mp etc. They all have a habit of balancing out all things being equal, what you gain in one area, you lose in another.

 

[Len Shepherd]

The point is, there is no free lunch and equivalence comes into play whether it be aperture, ISO noise, IBIS ability, focal length, Mp etc. They all have a habit of balancing out all things being equal, what you gain in one area, you lose in another.

I agree no free lunch - though "equivalence" needs caution.
Some-one wanting lighter weight for focal length might rate the OM system as plus 5 for this.
Some-one mainly shooting in sunlight might rate the lower noise performance etc as minus 1.
For this group of photographers the OM system on these two details is plus 4.

 

[Lance B]

I agree no free lunch - though "equivalence" needs caution.
Some-one wanting lighter weight for focal length might rate the OM system as plus 5 for this.
Some-one mainly shooting in sunlight might rate the lower noise performance etc as minus 1.
For this group of photographers the OM system on these two details is plus 4.

For that group of photographers it might be a plus 4 but it would mean a minus 4 for ultimate image quality compared to a FF system. It all depends on how you weight things and what is important to you. If all you want is light weight, then there are many compromises that may have to be made, whereas many are willing to not accept those compromises and thus stick with FF for a small weight "penalty" rather than and IQ "penalty" of MFT.

 

[geoawelch]

On longer lenses - in lens VR works best.
On short lenses - IBIS works best.
Also some extra weight helps keep the camera steady ...

I found this to be somewhat true with the Z9

 

[geoawelch]

For that group of photographers it might be a plus 4 but it would mean a minus 4 for ultimate image quality compared to a FF system. It all depends on how you weight things and what is important to you. If all you want is light weight, then there are many compromises that may have to be made, whereas many are willing to not accept those compromises and thus stick with FF for a small weight "penalty" rather than and IQ "penalty" of MFT.

Lance, very true. However I find very little IQ penalty with the finished image as long as I get pixels on the subject With m43. If I have to crop I would much prefer a FF file. Notice I say finished image - one that’s been put through NR, etc.

 

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