Another vote for these gloves...I have had mine for years and they have gone the distance in -20F with a wind. Boy it was colllld. I also use the rechargeable hand warmers for my pocket if there is a lull in action or I have had my fingers out for something. I have added extra wool to the zipper pocket and will put a chemical hand warmer in there.I'm up in Canada so our winters are pretty cold. I use a pair of Heat Company mitts comprised of an internal polartec liner and an external zippered leather shell and exposable thumb, both inner and outer gloves have pockets for chemical pacs which really help keeping my hands warm. The liners and shells are separate ( not combined ) so I can use the liners independently in the late fall.