Z9 First Date Jitters

[tahoemike00]

I've been a lifelong SLR and DSLR shooter, mainly Nikon. I've been resisting jumping ship to the mirrorless realm, but did so recently and got an offer that I couldn't refuse.
My initial reaction was "sorry I bought it, I'm going to sell it" - but knowing my reluctance to change, like when we moved from DOS to a GUI Windows 95, I swore I would stick with DOS forever. Well, that didn't go as planned. lol, so I am going to try and hang tough through the learning curve.

My first gripe - the button/knobs and overall layout, a bit frustrating especially how I am so used to my D500, D4 and D5 ergos.

Second, I am used to the tried & true comforting sound and feel of the mechanical 'click clack' of the DLSR. Something feels so chintzy about it, the lack of sound or the digital sounds you can choose. And maybe it's me, but the shutter button seems very light, hair trigger even.

Lastly (for now anyways) beings how I have enough F mount glass to sink a boat, I of course purchased a Nikon FTZ2 II adapter so I could shoot with my F glass until I get some Z glass. I shot with the Z9 yesterday for the first time with the Nikon F mount 24-70 2.8, and at about shot 6 or 7, I got a "press shutter-release button to reset" error. Took 6 or 7 presses of the shutter release button and I could shoot again - until the same error occurred. Several more times during the outing. I searched the issue and a common theory was the FTZ converter is problematic with F mounts. Joy. So already chasing a "feature" that I don't need. (errors and babysitting) I read that setting the shutter shield to 'Off' would resolve the issue. But it was already set to off.
Note: Firmware is v5.10

Other oddities will take some getting used to, and probably more to do with how I can eventually get it configured, but the back screen display being on until you move your hand over it and it turns off, which caught me off guard when trying to get to buttons and settings. I assume either a light or proximity sensor setting.



Picked up my D5 today to shoot, like putting on an old pair of broken-in Levi's. Comfy.

Nervous about my next date with the Z9.

EDIT: I tried adding a tag, I typed in Z9....
"Oops! We ran into some problems. Some tags were not valid because they are too short, too long, or contain disallowed text. Please change the following tags: z9"

So I went with 'z9 trouble' lol

 

[fulltimewanderer]

About a year ago I made the jump from D500, D850, and D4 to a Z9, have patience there is definitely a learning curve. Suggest getting and reading Steve’s book; Z8 Z9 SetUp and Shooting Guide and Thom Hogan’s Book; Z9 Guide. Both books will pretty much explain all the menu options/choices and provide their selections. Maybe read Steve’s first and follow it up with Thom’s, you will learn something from each book. Like you my wife and I are heavily invested in F mount glass and use the FTZ(2) Adapter that has worked flawless. Being patient it is definitely a learning curve and a new experience that you will experience. Get out and enjoy the moment.

 

[JAJohnson]

I've been a lifelong SLR and DSLR shooter, mainly Nikon. I've been resisting jumping ship to the mirrorless realm, but did so recently and got a offer that I couldn't refuse.
My initial reaction was "sorry I bought it, I'm going to sell it" - but knowing my reluctance to change, like when we moved from DOS to a GUI Windows 95, I swore I would stick with DOS forever. Well, that didn't go as planned. lol, so I am going to try and hang tough through the learning curve.

My first gripe - the button/knobs and overall layout, a bit frustrating especially how I am so used to my D500, D4 and D5 ergos.

Second, I am used to the tried & true comforting sound and feel of the mechanical 'click clack' of the DLSR. Something feels so chintzy about it, the lack of sound or the digital sounds you can choose. And maybe it's me, but the shutter button seems very light, hair trigger even.

Lastly (for now anyways) beings how I have enough F mount glass to sink a boat, I of course purchased a Nikon FTZ2 II adapter so I could shoot with my F glass until I get some Z glass. I shot with the Z9 yesterday for the first time with the Nikon F mount 24-70 2.8, and at about shot 6 or 7, I got a "press shutter-release button to reset" error. Took 6 or 7 presses of the shutter release button and I could shoot again - until the same error occurred. Several more times during the outing. I searched the issue and a common theory was the FTZ converter is problematic with F mounts. Joy. So already chasing a "feature" that I don't need. (errors and babysitting) I read that setting the shutter shield to 'Off' would resolve the issue. But it was already set to off.
Note: Firmware is v5.10

Other oddities will take some getting used to, and probably more to do with how I can eventually get it configured, but the back screen display being on until you move your hand over it and it turns off, which caught me off guard when trying to get to buttons and settings. I assume either a light or proximity sensor setting.

Picked up my D5 today to shoot, like putting on an old pair of broken-in Levi's. Comfy.

Nervous about my next date with the Z9.

EDIT: I tried adding a tag, I typed in Z9....
"Oops! We ran into some problems. Some tags were not valid because they are too short, too long, or contain disallowed text. Please change the following tags: z9"

So I went with 'z9 trouble' lol

Hello Mike. I can appreciate the mild discomfort you're experiencing in making the transition from Nikon DSLRs to mirrorless.

Regarding Gripes 1 & 2: Give it time. You have some muscle memory and audio-haptic experience to overcome.

Regarding the error you mentioned, a quick look at the Z9 reference guide says this: "Camera malfunction. Press shutter-release button again. If error persists or appears frequently, consult Nikon-authorized service representative." This could be a problem with the FTZ II adapter or it wasn't mounted securely to the Z9.

I suggest calling Nikon USA customer support and getting guidance from them. I hope it's something which can be easily resolved.

 

[John Navitsky]

but the back screen display being on until you move your hand over it and it turns off, which caught me off guard when trying to get to buttons and settings. I assume either a light or proximity sensor setting.

yes, there is a sensor IN the eyecup area that turns off the screen when you put the camera to your eye, but it is possible to trigger it by accident. take a peek, you’ll see the sensor there.

when you get used to it, it’s very seemless, you basically don’t think about it, it just magically does what you need.

 

[Lee R]

You can cycle the viewfinder/monitor selection with the button on the left side of the viewfinder up top. Cycle to monitor only if you want to temporarily disable the eye level sensor. This can be handy if your learning menu's and don't want to be careful with your hands which makes the camera thing it's up to your eye. Then cycle it back when you're done. Eventually you get used to how it triggers and avoid putting your hand in front of it.

I eventually learned to like the silent shutter and now when I pick up my DSLR it sounds obnoxious in use. I keep the sounds on but at the lowest settings just so I can barely hear that I hit the shutter. There's if I remember right 5 sounds to try so maybe one is less annoying.

Eventually the camera becomes second nature, it's just a learning curve like anything else, You'll master it just like the jump from DOS to windows.

 

[Nimi]

I've been a lifelong SLR and DSLR shooter, mainly Nikon. I've been resisting jumping ship to the mirrorless realm, but did so recently and got a offer that I couldn't refuse.
My initial reaction was "sorry I bought it, I'm going to sell it" - but knowing my reluctance to change, like when we moved from DOS to a GUI Windows 95, I swore I would stick with DOS forever. Well, that didn't go as planned. lol, so I am going to try and hang tough through the learning curve.

My first gripe - the button/knobs and overall layout, a bit frustrating especially how I am so used to my D500, D4 and D5 ergos.

Second, I am used to the tried & true comforting sound and feel of the mechanical 'click clack' of the DLSR. Something feels so chintzy about it, the lack of sound or the digital sounds you can choose. And maybe it's me, but the shutter button seems very light, hair trigger even.

Lastly (for now anyways) beings how I have enough F mount glass to sink a boat, I of course purchased a Nikon FTZ2 II adapter so I could shoot with my F glass until I get some Z glass. I shot with the Z9 yesterday for the first time with the Nikon F mount 24-70 2.8, and at about shot 6 or 7, I got a "press shutter-release button to reset" error. Took 6 or 7 presses of the shutter release button and I could shoot again - until the same error occurred. Several more times during the outing. I searched the issue and a common theory was the FTZ converter is problematic with F mounts. Joy. So already chasing a "feature" that I don't need. (errors and babysitting) I read that setting the shutter shield to 'Off' would resolve the issue. But it was already set to off.
Note: Firmware is v5.10

Other oddities will take some getting used to, and probably more to do with how I can eventually get it configured, but the back screen display being on until you move your hand over it and it turns off, which caught me off guard when trying to get to buttons and settings. I assume either a light or proximity sensor setting.



Picked up my D5 today to shoot, like putting on an old pair of broken-in Levi's. Comfy.

Nervous about my next date with the Z9.

EDIT: I tried adding a tag, I typed in Z9....
"Oops! We ran into some problems. Some tags were not valid because they are too short, too long, or contain disallowed text. Please change the following tags: z9"

So I went with 'z9 trouble' lol

Welcome to the forum and to the Z world.

Many of us went through the same shock moving from the D4/5/6 to the Z9, and speaking for myself, I couldn't imagine going back. Give it a little time, shoot a few thousands frames.

As far as the FTZ, I own several, one for each "legacy" lens i still use. At least one was defective, so it's not unusual, especially with a heavy lens on the front.

 

[Charles Loy]

Congrats on buying your new camera. It's like moving from driving a school buss to a rolling in a Lincoln, but for me it was fun learning the new camera. I watched a few videos up on youtube, and bought Steve's book to reference too. You will be happy soon.
I have a concern too with the adapter. It fits tight, real tight on my last D mount, the 105 macro lens. I'm gonna buy the Z 105 macro soon. Hang in, have fun and enjoy.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

FWIW, I switched from a D750/D7200 combo to a Z8. My first step was to configure the Z8 as close to identical to the 750 as possible. That made getting used to feel of the camera a bit less stressful. Then about a month after I bought it Nikon issued the 2.0 firmware update. I installed that and spent a bit of time configuring the menus using @Steve's setup guide, Hudson Henry's video guide, and Thom Hogan's book. I modified their approaches to suit my uses and it's been great.

I understand missing the sounds of the DSLRs. Cameras are many things, but one that matters to me is they are "machines." The sound and tactile feedback are an important part of the experience. But I have to say, the performance and capability of this camera so far exceeds my DSLRs that I no longer miss the clatter. And if I get nostalgic, I go back and burn a few frames on one of my Minolta SrTs.

 

[Darrellhar]

I get the first date jitters. As you can see you are not alone in that. I never thought I would move to mirrorless but realized that it was the future and once you get used to it the benefits far outweighs any jitters. I didn't have issue with sound (I keep Z9 noise on lowest setting) but I did have to change it so it would "flicker" when I took photos and that helped a lot in the transition. Other wise I had no idea it was taking a photo (which was cool and annoying at the same time). I have tweaked my setting and function buttons many, many times over the last couple of years but all for the better. It is a pretty big change moving over but once you get comfortable with it you will find it was sooo worth it. I never had any of those issues with my FTZ so can't offer help with that. I ended up moving over to all Z lens and I just didn't like the idea of needing adapter for some but not all lens. I have down sized the number of lens that I own as I realized many of my old ones I never used any longer so I didn't bother to replace them. This and I think the Z version of lens are way better (In my opinion) than their F mount version. Good luck with your purchase. I hope you give it some time to get used to it. I suspect like most of us you will not regret the change once you do.

 

[tahoemike00]

First off, thank you all so much for your input and moral support.... but my confidence is dwindling.

Update: I received my early Christmas present, a Nikon Z 70-200 2.8. I'm in deep now. So I went out and took a few shots to see how it goes. I looked at the pics when I got home on my PC monitors, and I was/am HORRIFIED! They are hideous! At 100% zoom look like some cheap-a$$ Instagram cartoon filter. I'm beside myself right now. Literally a sick feeling in my stomach. I thought maybe there was something I fouled up with my settings, so I reset to factory defaults, and shot a few more. Same thing.

I realize there are so many variables with settings, lenses, shutter speed, aperture, ISO, lenses and settings etc. But these are just so far off from each other, I have a hard time believing that it's something with my settings or lens/body setting combos. And should I have to fight this hard to get a good crisp clean image from a multi-thousand $ rig? Oy vey.

I'm attaching 2 photos, at 100% zoom on each, and then I did a screen capture of each as such. One from the Z9 and the other from my TRUSTY D5.
A few notes: I tried the F mount 70-200 2.8 with adapter on the Z, then again with the new native Z 70-200 2.8 and same hideous results.
Then, the other [helmet] pic from my D5 was shot with the F mount 70-200 2.8 that I tested on the Z with the adapter.
(I do realize the helmet pic is at a wide aperture, and the dog, at a smaller aperture. The helmet pic has buttery bokeh as intended, but the dog, well, full zoom it and tell me what you think please)

Arghhh.

 

[beano]

Update: I received my early Christmas present, a Nikon Z 70-200 2.8. I'm in deep now. So I went out and took a few shots to see how it goes. I looked at the pics when I got home on my PC monitors, and I was/am HORRIFIED! They are hideous! At 100% zoom look like some cheap-a$$ Instagram cartoon filter. I'm beside myself right now. Literally a sick feeling in my stomach. I thought maybe there was something I fouled up with my settings, so I reset to factory defaults, and shot a few more. Same thing.

I realize there are so many variables with settings, lenses, shutter speed, aperture, ISO, lenses and settings etc. But these are just so far off base, I have a hard time believing that it's something with my settings or lens/body setting combos.

I'm attaching 2 photos, at 100% zoom on each, and then I did a screen capture of each as such. One from the Z9 and the other from my TRUSTY D5.
A few notes: I tried the F mount 70-200 2.8 with adapter on the Z, then again with the new native Z 70-200 2.8 and same hideous results.
Then, the other [helmet] pic from my D5 was shot with the F mount 70-200 2.8 that I tested on the Z with the adapter.
(I do realize the helmet pic is at a wide aperture, and the dog, at a smaller aperture. The helmet pic has buttery bokeh as intended, but the dog, well, full zoom it and tell me what you think please)

Arghhh.

Chill out and relax. It will take some time to figure out AF and other bits on the Z9. It is a great camera, and will do brilliant shots even with F-mount glass.

If you battle in AF, simply shoot in MF and get used to the camera, otherwise, use single-point AF. In time, 3D tracking and auto-area AF will come naturally to you. The basics are the same as the d850, d500, d5, but it has more advanced features as well.

Deal with the basics, and go from there. Based on your earlier comments, sounds like you’re pretty negative towards your purchase. Reset and go from there Good luck! We’re here to help.

 

[John Navitsky]

inw

The helmet pic has buttery bokeh as intended, but the dog, well, full zoom it and tell me what you think please)

Arghhh.

i think the dog is a focus miss. i think it’s front focused. look at the ground in front of the dog. we’d probably need a lot more info to help debug.

 

[JAJohnson]

First off, thank you all so much for your input and moral support.... but my confidence is dwindling.

Update: I received my early Christmas present, a Nikon Z 70-200 2.8. I'm in deep now. So I went out and took a few shots to see how it goes. I looked at the pics when I got home on my PC monitors, and I was/am HORRIFIED! They are hideous! At 100% zoom look like some cheap-a$$ Instagram cartoon filter. I'm beside myself right now. Literally a sick feeling in my stomach. I thought maybe there was something I fouled up with my settings, so I reset to factory defaults, and shot a few more. Same thing.

I realize there are so many variables with settings, lenses, shutter speed, aperture, ISO, lenses and settings etc. But these are just so far off from each other, I have a hard time believing that it's something with my settings or lens/body setting combos.

I'm attaching 2 photos, at 100% zoom on each, and then I did a screen capture of each as such. One from the Z9 and the other from my TRUSTY D5.
A few notes: I tried the F mount 70-200 2.8 with adapter on the Z, then again with the new native Z 70-200 2.8 and same hideous results.
Then, the other [helmet] pic from my D5 was shot with the F mount 70-200 2.8 that I tested on the Z with the adapter.
(I do realize the helmet pic is at a wide aperture, and the dog, at a smaller aperture. The helmet pic has buttery bokeh as intended, but the dog, well, full zoom it and tell me what you think please)

Arghhh.

It would help if you shot the same scene with the F and Z lenses with the same settings. Otherwise it’s impossible to make any judgement at all. Also, upload the photos so that the EXIF data is visible for each.

Save your images as jpeg, no larger than 1200 px on the long edge. See here for examples.
https://bcgforums.com/threads/exif-info-is-here.15078/

 

[John Navitsky]

so once upon a time i decided to get a “real” camera, a d500. at that point i had been an enthusiast photographer for decades, all the way back to developing film in my closet. i was upgrading from a d40x. it LITERALLY took me DAYS to take a single in focus photo. i can’t remember now what i was doing wrong, but i couldn’t figure it out for days! i was thinking i had made a serious error!

and later, that camera felt perfect in my hand, an extension of me.

true story

 

[Krümelkraft]

First off, thank you all so much for your input and moral support.... but my confidence is dwindling.

Update: I received my early Christmas present, a Nikon Z 70-200 2.8. I'm in deep now. So I went out and took a few shots to see how it goes. I looked at the pics when I got home on my PC monitors, and I was/am HORRIFIED! They are hideous! At 100% zoom look like some cheap-a$$ Instagram cartoon filter. I'm beside myself right now. Literally a sick feeling in my stomach. I thought maybe there was something I fouled up with my settings, so I reset to factory defaults, and shot a few more. Same thing.

I realize there are so many variables with settings, lenses, shutter speed, aperture, ISO, lenses and settings etc. But these are just so far off from each other, I have a hard time believing that it's something with my settings or lens/body setting combos. And should I have to fight this hard to get a good crisp clean image from a multi-thousand $ rig? Oy vey.

I'm attaching 2 photos, at 100% zoom on each, and then I did a screen capture of each as such. One from the Z9 and the other from my TRUSTY D5.
A few notes: I tried the F mount 70-200 2.8 with adapter on the Z, then again with the new native Z 70-200 2.8 and same hideous results.
Then, the other [helmet] pic from my D5 was shot with the F mount 70-200 2.8 that I tested on the Z with the adapter.
(I do realize the helmet pic is at a wide aperture, and the dog, at a smaller aperture. The helmet pic has buttery bokeh as intended, but the dog, well, full zoom it and tell me what you think please)

Arghhh.

At which ISO value was that? Looks like a heavily noise-reduced ISO25k or more. What was the shutter speed?

 

[tahoemike00]

OK, again, I appreciate the input from all. I have read every response at least 3 times... still learning.
And I get it. It's been a long day... I need to chill out, regroup and be more methodical with my approach.
I've reset the camera as mentioned, and I will take my time with the settings following Steve's guides/videos and settings that I am familiar with that have worked well for me with my D500 and D4/5 bodies.
Then do some comparison as @JAJohnson has suggested. And the how-to with getting Exif data posted.

 

[John Navitsky]

another gotcha to be aware of. remember you are taking a quite a big jump in megapixels, so beware of comparing at 100% magnification. instead compare at a normalized output like fit to screen.

also beware of heavy crops. it’s easy to think because you have all those pixels you can do severe crops. and yes, you can, but there is a penalty you take.

 

[tahoemike00]

another gotcha to be aware of. remember you are taking a quite a big jump in megapixels, so beware of comparing at 100% magnification. instead compare at a normalized output like fit to screen.

also beware of heavy crops. it’s easy to think because you have all those pixels you can do severe crops. and yes, you can, but there is a penalty you take.

Good points, thank you. And I'm not a heavy cropper, or rarely, but I get it

 

[beano]

Good points, thank you. And I'm not a heavy cropper, or rarely, but I get it

A very good point by a John above. It’s much easier getting sharper shots with the 20MP D5 (edited for clarity, I meant d5 FX here, not d500 DX!) , vs the 45MP D850/Z9. If you keep battling, double or triple your shutter-speed in the beginning, adjust Aperture to compensate, even if it mucks up your DOF, tuck your elbows in and control your breathing- it’s a bit like being a sniper. With the dog-photo above, seems technique let you down, slight movement, combined with low shutter-speed and high iso.

Once you get the mechanics sorted, the rest will follow. In short rider, you will be able to take sharp photos at low shutter-speed and 200mm, without issues. It‘s just a different resolution-camera to adjust to. remember about the single-point AF, go from there.

 

[dabhand16]

@tahoemike00

FWIW when I moved from 12MP with my D300 then D700 to a D810 I found that in spite of my pride in being able to hand hold at low shutter speeds well, my images were not sharp. When I started using 1/1.5x focal length for minimum shutter speed they became sharp again. With my D850 I had to use at least 1/2x focal length.

45MP sensors are very unforgiving when you come from lower MP cameras.

 

[Cameron T]

i think the dog is a focus miss. i think it’s front focused. look at the ground in front of the dog. we’d probably need a lot more info to help debug.

Front focused, plus extremely high iso and possibly too low shutter speed (impossible to tell if there's motion blur due to the iso).

Any lens/body combo can look bad if the settings used aren't appropriate, plus deep crops only make that issue worse.

 

[fulltimewanderer]

Tahoemike00, Totally understand your frustration. My first full frame was the D810, I struggled with it just couldn’t get consistent images. When Nikon came out with the D500 I traded the D810 to my wife for the permission to get the D500. Years later I purchased the D850, guess what was having the same problems I did with the D810. This time i fought through it and figured out it wasn’t the camera but the person behind it. So be patient, the light will come on and you will figure it out. As shared above push the shutter speed up, maybe start around 1/2000 second also. I see that Santa visited you early, I’d suggest using that Z 70-200 2.8 with VR on to provide a more assistance. I find that the Z9 has so much to offer than any other camera that I’ve used. The downside is that it will take longer to understand it and get the best results from it. Be patient it will all come together and you will be getting some of the Best shots ever and enjoying yourself. Happy Shooting.

 

[arbitrage]

A very good point by a John above. It’s much easier getting sharper shots with the 20MP D500, vs the 45MP D850/Z9. If you keep battling, double or triple your shutter-speed in the beginning, adjust Aperture to compensate, even if it mucks up your DOF, tuck your elbows in and control your breathing- it’s a bit like being a sniper. With the dog-photo above, seems technique let you down, slight movement, combined with low shutter-speed and high iso.

Once you get the mechanics sorted, the rest will follow. In short rider, you will be able to take sharp photos at low shutter-speed and 200mm, without issues. It‘s just a different resolution-camera to adjust to. remember about the single-point AF, go from there.

Getting shots with a 20MP DX D500 should be identical to getting shots with a 45MP FX D850/Z9 as the pixel density is almost exactly the same. Therefore, given the same subject it will move across the same number of pixels in a given amount of time.
Your point can make sense if comparing a 20MP FX camera to a 45MP FX camera (although even then only if pixel peeping to 100% on both which magnifies the 45MP one much more)

The OP should have similar experience with safe shutter speeds between his D500 and Z9.

The dog vs helmet example is pointless. One is shot is good light at likely much closer distance with little to no subject movement. The other is shot in low light, further from the subject and straight on action which is the most difficult for any AF system to hold onto and gets worse the lower the light is.

We need to see some actual comparisons of the same subject, same exposure settings, same day to get any meaningful comparison.

 

[tahoemike00]

Front focused, plus extremely high iso and possibly too low shutter speed (impossible to tell if there's motion blur due to the iso).

Any lens/body combo can look bad if the settings used aren't appropriate, plus deep crops only make that issue worse.

I thought I mentioned the settings somewhere. But now I see the utility of getting the images posted in the formatting that will show the EXIF data.
But for the dog image; f/18 1/250 ISO 10000 so a smoking gun I suppose. And probably some willie-nilllie AF setting.
The deep crop was only to show the background at 100% and how it looks like a Claude Monet painting type texture. There was no photographic integrity intended. I had never seen images look so cartoonish. But, I've also never owned a 45mp camera either.

 

[tahoemike00]

Getting shots with a 20MP DX D500 should be identical to getting shots with a 45MP FX D850/Z9 as the pixel density is almost exactly the same. Therefore, given the same subject it will move across the same number of pixels in a given amount of time.
Your point can make sense if comparing a 20MP FX camera to a 45MP FX camera (although even then only if pixel peeping to 100% on both which magnifies the 45MP one much more)

The OP should have similar experience with safe shutter speeds between his D500 and Z9.

The dog vs helmet example is pointless. One is shot is good light at likely much closer distance with little to no subject movement. The other is shot in low light, further from the subject and straight on action which is the most difficult for any AF system to hold onto and gets worse the lower the light is.

We need to see some actual comparisons of the same subject, same exposure settings, same day to get any meaningful comparison.

All good points too. I realize the "comparison" of my 2 examples, not apples to apples I agree. But, I was just trying to show, to me, the freakish looking Z9 image at high zoom, regardless of the helmet shot. I've just never seen anything like it. And as mentioned in another reply, I've never owned a 45mp camera either.

Aside from my initial testing with not so optimal shutter speed, aperture and iso on a basically very overcast day, I get it. My next outing, I will bring both my D5 and the Z9 and shoot with the F mount 70-200 2.8 and swap the lens between bodies at each shot with similar shutter, aperture, iso settings. I am curious how the backgrounds will look comparatively zoomed in at 100%.

Maybe I have to get over the idea that a 45mp image is going to look tack-sharp at 100% if all other things being equal compared to my D5?