My first wildlife documentary short film.

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Wow. It must have been a labor of love
Hi CentralCoast,

Yes indeed, you've hit the nail right on the head, it surely was a labour of love. I didn't know a single thing about Sandhill Cranes because they are so rare here and I've made several unsuccessful attempts to get even a good photograph over the last 10 years. So one day last November I was treated to several hours of video recording time with these Cranes displaying a whole variety of behaviours that I had never seen or known about.

A great deal of my time during editing this video was spent watching my own footage over and over and then doing a lot of research on the internet to learn what these behaviours are and what they mean. I soon began to realize that despite some poor image quality footage I had an audio-visual wildlife treasure in my possession. It was then I determined to spend the necessary time to try to turn this footage into a real wildlife documentary short film to the best of my ability. The more I learned about these beautiful, fascination birds, their lives and their amazing interactions, the more my wife and fell in love with them. We now watch and enjoy this film over and over again and we are so delighted that others are enjoying it too.

Thanks for watching and for your kind comment.
Cheers,
Rudy :)
 
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Rudy,

Thanks so much for your reply. I have plenty of questions, but will start with a few. One of the things I'm fumbling with is frame rates. I see that you use 60 fps , and 120 for slow motion. I have been going back and forth between using 30 and 60, unless I know that I want substantial slow mo. Do you typically start with 60 rather than 30 fps?
Do you use autofocus on your R5? I find that manual focus just doesn't work in a birds in flight scenario. Are there particular settings that you recommend for the R5? (I know the camera well, so not looking for all the detail, just anything particular that you find more useful that usual)
I have Davinci Resolve, but have been using Premier Pro, just because I like the Lightroom-like interface.
I will be posting some other videos on this forum, outside of this thread, and will appreciate your feedback.
Finally, if you are interested in a great location for Sandhills, I have one in Southern Oregon that I can share with you - albeit an extremely long drive for you!
Thanks again
Lane
Hi Lane,

Let me first try to explain the difficulty I will have in attempting to answer a lot of questions. In a nutshell the problem is time, or rather the lack of it. I have a pretty full schedule most days with little discretionary time. There are frequently lengthy periods when I am not able to reply to any but the most necessary personal correspondence. As well, my main video forum participation is not in this forum which most of the time is not that active, especially when it comes to Canon users. Although this is an open forum brand-wise with very nice people, the majority of the folks here are Nikon users with one active Sony user and two or perhaps three active Canon users. Other than one other Canon user whom I share a lot with through email and on the phone, there's not that much opportunity for Canon users to learn from each other here, at least not yet.

Recently the Fred Miranda website, which has many forums for each of the major brands, began a thread dedicated to video, which as a Fred Miranda photography participant myself, I was very happy to see and have joined. It is just new, but looks like its growing and will probably be a place where many Canon video shooters will find themselves as there are no other such forums as yet that I know of.

Now back to my problem of time. Unfortunately I will not be able to actively and meaningfully participate in detailed discussions both here in this forum and in the FM Canon video forum. So what I suggest is that you begin participating in the FM Canon video forum thread and introduce yourself and post your questions there as well as here. Another benefit in you doing this is that not only will I be more able to answer some of your questions, but other Canon users will also be able to input and learn from the discussions. If you are interested you can find the Canon video forum thread here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1885499/

You can find my introductory post at the top of page 2 in this thread.

Cheers,
Rudy :)
 
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Rudy,

Thanks so much for your reply. I have plenty of questions, but will start with a few. One of the things I'm fumbling with is frame rates. I see that you use 60 fps , and 120 for slow motion. I have been going back and forth between using 30 and 60, unless I know that I want substantial slow mo. Do you typically start with 60 rather than 30 fps?
Do you use autofocus on your R5? I find that manual focus just doesn't work in a birds in flight scenario. Are there particular settings that you recommend for the R5? (I know the camera well, so not looking for all the detail, just anything particular that you find more useful that usual)
I have Davinci Resolve, but have been using Premier Pro, just because I like the Lightroom-like interface.
I will be posting some other videos on this forum, outside of this thread, and will appreciate your feedback.
Finally, if you are interested in a great location for Sandhills, I have one in Southern Oregon that I can share with you - albeit an extremely long drive for you!
Thanks again
Lane
Hi Lane,
My thoughts on your questions. I used to always use 60 fps(59.94) in case I want to slow down in post. I found I don't do that much so I have mostly changed to 29.97 fps. I do use 119.9 when I know I want slow motion.
I use autofocus most of the time when shooting wildlife. I do revert to manual if shooting an eagle nest at distance so it does not hunt.
I have found my best luck on birds is to use the full frame autofocus mode, animal priority, and I alternate between eye auto on and off.
I hope you have time to post here and on the thread at Fred Mirandi Rudy spoke of, as there are nice, knowledgeable folks both places.
Rudy and I both have videos on YouTube, his more advanced than mine.
Here it might be best to start a new thread with questions, and on Fred Miranda there is only one all inclusive thread for Canon video at this time, so just ask in the thread.
Glad to see you here and hope you can find the help you want.
Dave
 
Hi Lane,

Let me first try to explain the difficulty I will have in attempting to answer a lot of questions. In a nutshell the problem is time, or rather the lack of it. I have a pretty full schedule most days with little discretionary time. There are frequently lengthy periods when I am not able to reply to any but the most necessary personal correspondence. As well, my main video forum participation is not in this forum which most of the time is not that active, especially when it comes to Canon users. Although this is an open forum brand-wise the majority of the folks here are Nikon users with one active Sony user and two active Canon users. Other than the one other Canon user whom I share a lot with through email and on the phone, there's not much opportunity for Canon users to learn from each other here.

Recently the Fred Miranda website, which has many forums for each of the major brands, began a thread dedicated to video, which as a Fred Miranda photography participant myself, I was very happy to see and have joined. It is just new, but is growing and will probably be the place where many Canon video shooters will find themselves as there are no other such forums as yet that I know of.

Now back to my problem of time. Unfortunately I will not be able to actively and meaningfully participate in detailed discussions both here in this forum and in the FM Canon video forum. So what I suggest is that you begin participating in the FM Canon video forum thread and introduce yourself and post your questions there. Another benefit in you doing this is that not only will I be able to answer some of your question, but other Canon users will also be able to input and learn from the discussions. If you are interested you can find the Canon video forum thread here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1885499/

You can find my introductory post at the top of page 2 in this thread.

Cheers,
Rudy :)
Understood completely. And thanks. I have a Fred Miranda account and will head over there.
Hi Lane,
My thoughts on your questions. I used to always use 60 fps(59.94) in case I want to slow down in post. I found I don't do that much so I have mostly changed to 29.97 fps. I do use 119.9 when I know I want slow motion.
I use autofocus most of the time when shooting wildlife. I do revert to manual if shooting an eagle nest at distance so it does not hunt.
I have found my best luck on birds is to use the full frame autofocus mode, animal priority, and I alternate between eye auto on and off.
I hope you have time to post here and on the thread at Fred Mirandi Rudy spoke of, as there are nice, knowledgeable folks both places.
Rudy and I both have videos on YouTube, his more advanced than mine.
Here it might be best to start a new thread with questions, and on Fred Miranda there is only one all inclusive thread for Canon video at this time, so just ask in the thread.
Glad to see you here and hope you can find the help you want.
Dave
Dave,

What a kind response, thank you. The fps question is one I have struggled with. My head is stuck in the still mode, thinking faster shutter speed is essential, but I do know that’s not right here, LOL. I have wondered if I just use 60 fps in case I MIGHT want to slow down, am I losing IQ over 30 fps, or is there really a difference? I have shot some 120 fps and the slow mo is impressive for sure - maybe even too much at times.
So I’m figuring out that my initial set up heading out in the field for BIF might be setting my C3 custom function to 30 fps (still wonder if it should be 60) to activate with the R5 movie button, and my C1 to 120 fps for when I really want slow motion. Am I getting the idea?
I am also putting some stuff on YouTube, like you, but have to figure out how to get it to post right - so far it’s messing clips up terribly!
Lane
 
Understood completely. And thanks. I have a Fred Miranda account and will head over there.

Dave,

What a kind response, thank you. The fps question is one I have struggled with. My head is stuck in the still mode, thinking faster shutter speed is essential, but I do know that’s not right here, LOL. I have wondered if I just use 60 fps in case I MIGHT want to slow down, am I losing IQ over 30 fps, or is there really a difference? I have shot some 120 fps and the slow mo is impressive for sure - maybe even too much at times.
So I’m figuring out that my initial set up heading out in the field for BIF might be setting my C3 custom function to 30 fps (still wonder if it should be 60) to activate with the R5 movie button, and my C1 to 120 fps for when I really want slow motion. Am I getting the idea?
I am also putting some stuff on YouTube, like you, but have to figure out how to get it to post right - so far it’s messing clips up terribly!
Lane
Lane,
I don't think you lose quality with 60 fps vs 30 fps, all settings being equal. The 4k fine settings available on your camera do seem to be a bit higher quality, and on some cameras that is available only in lower frame rates but not on higher frame rates. If doing long recording times, you would have twice the size file, and more possibility of heat on the body. On the 120 fps, it can also be speeded up if it is too much. Lots of people use the C1-3 custom buttons, so that is fine if you like using them.
Have fun!
Dave
 
Rudy,

Thanks so much for your reply. I have plenty of questions, but will start with a few. ...
Do you use autofocus on your R5? I find that manual focus just doesn't work in a birds in flight scenario. Are there particular settings that you recommend for the R5? (I know the camera well, so not looking for all the detail, just anything particular that you find more useful that usual)
...
Thanks again
Lane
Hi Lane,

Sorry for the delay but I'm finally done....

How I track birds in flight in video mode with the Canon 5:

The problem:

In video mode, when it comes to tracking subjects, especially moderate-to-fastmoving subjects like birds in flight for longer than a few seconds at a time, the R5 can easily lose focus. Keeping the focus locked on a moving subject for as long as possible, and when lost, re-acquiring the focus quickly has been one of my main goals in learning wildlife videography over the past 2 years since buying the R5.

Camera setup:
In the Customize buttons menu, in the video column, set items as follows:
[MODE]:MODE
[AF-ON button]: Metering and AF start (this refocuses the camera quickly, especially in Zone AF
[* AE lock button]: Eye detection
[AF point button]: Pause Movie Servo AF
[DOF preview button]: AF point selection (use top wheel to scroll through AF modes)
[M-fn button]: Still <- -> movie switching (prevents focus hunting when subject is stationary)
[SET button]: Set AF point to center
Note: in the RED7 menu - Shutter btn function for movies: Fully-press - Start/stop mov rec

AF -some observations and experiences

My preferred look for wildlife video is well stabilized footage shot on a good, solid tripod and a decent video head. All the information here assumes the use of these tools.

Because the R5 easily loses focus on medium-to-fast moving subjects it can't be simply aimed at a subject in AF + tracking mode and left unattended. For subjects like slow swimming ducks it's OK to stand back from the camera in AF+ tracking mode and view the subjects on the LCD while moving the video head with a handle to get smooth tracking, but for regular birds in flight this has not worked well for me. Instead, I put my eye right on the viewfinder eyepiece and closely follow the action while actively working the various AF buttons as needed. It takes a fair bit of practice to learn how to do all this handling without introducing too many bumps and shakes into your footage. Just pressing the AF-ON button can make your footage shake so practice is needed.

For medium-to-fast moving subjects
For medium-to-fast moving subjects 90% of the time or more I use the Zone AF mode rather that AF+ tracking mode. And the object of the game here is to keep the subject that you're tracking in the centre of the 4-corner square overlay in the middle of the viewfinder as much and as long as possible. If your shooting several birds such as a row of flying geese, place the AF square over the lead geese or whichever ones your are wanting to feature and every few seconds or more press the AF-ON button which repeatedly refocuses the camera. This will ensure that the R5 doesn't surprise you and suddenly pop out of focus. Pressing the AF-ON button while you're smoothly panning the camera on a tripod causes little or no shake in the footage.

This technique is pretty easy to master as long as the birds are flying on a fairly level, predictable flight path as geese typically do. Where things get tricky is with birds that suddenly move up or down enough to move them out of the 4-corner square in the viewfinder. When that happens the R5 typically looses focus very quickly and this is where the rapid focus recover in the Zone AF node is great. Just move the square back over the subject and keep pumping the AF-ON button until focus is reacquired. In post I blend together these two or in-focus flight scenes with the fade-to-black transition and it all looks great. By the way, the focus recovery process is quite a bit slower when shooting in 4K120 that the other video formats.

For slow moving subjects
For these kinds of subjects I often still use the Zone AF method described above because I'm very comfortable with it and get consistently good results. However, as I've learned to trust the R5's AF+ tracking mode more I now use that mode quite a bit for slow moving subjects.

For stationary subjects
Often I come across stationary subjects that stay in the same focal plane. These typically do not need to be refocused after the initial focus is acquired, until they move out of the focal plane. In these cases I don't leave the AF Servo running, but I pause it with my middle back button which has been mapped to that function as you can see in the list above.

Here's a typical wildlife scenario. I spot a Green Heron flying into my area of a pond and I'm busily pumping my AF-ON button as I'm trying to track it as long as I can. It lands on a log near me to me and then just stands there for a long time without moving. It's a perfect chance for some great close-up footage. Now here's where a common problem can occur. The constant refocusing of the AF Servo mechanism can sometimes cause the image to twitch slightly which can be especially noticeable in the eyes. Some of us discussed this in the Back Country video forum and how we deal with it. The way I deal with it is to disable the AF Servo temporarily with the Servo pause button. This is a toggle button so when you press it again the AF Servo resumes. This is like moving from AF mode to manual mode seamlessly in an instant.

Well, I think that about it. Sorry it's taken so long for me to get this done, but I wanted to do a thorough job that would be a help. If you have any questions let me know.

Cheers,
Rudy
 
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Lane,
I don't think you lose quality with 60 fps vs 30 fps, all settings being equal. The 4k fine settings available on your camera do seem to be a bit higher quality, and on some cameras that is available only in lower frame rates but not on higher frame rates. If doing long recording times, you would have twice the size file, and more possibility of heat on the body. On the 120 fps, it can also be speeded up if it is too much. Lots of people use the C1-3 custom buttons, so that is fine if you like using them.
Have fun!
Dave
Dave,
I failed to reply to this. It’s really helpful, so thanks. I’m going to experiment with using 60 fps as my base shooting mode and see how that works out. I”ll keep 120 fps on a custom function, and 30 also.
 
Being somewhat of a perfectionist I was unhappy with the image quality and wanted to throw out the footage and quit the project more than once, but my wife said "no way" and encouraged me to make the best of it and finish the job. I'm glad I did.
Oh! I know the story!
:)
It is a fantastic video! I like your footage, music and narration and what is more important how all that is put together!
Interestingly, I deliberately wanted to have heat haze in my video to emphasis the heat in Africa ;-)

I have one silly question: you mentioned that the property where the cranes were is private. is it possible to talk to the owner and ask for permission? who does it work actually? I was just thinking about that option. Some people like to have pictures or videos shoot on their property and give the permission. But maybe it is a company's property and probably it is a stupid question ;-)
 
Hi Lane,

Sorry for the delay but I'm finally done....

How I track birds in flight in video mode with the Canon 5:

The problem:

In video mode, when it comes to tracking subjects, especially moderate-to-fastmoving subjects like birds in flight for longer than a few seconds at a time, the R5 can easily lose focus. Keeping the focus locked on a moving subject for as long as possible, and when lost, re-acquiring the focus quickly has been one of my main goals in learning wildlife videography over the past 2 years since buying the R5.

Camera setup:
In the Customize buttons menu, in the video column, set items as follows:
[MODE]:MODE
[AF-ON button]: Metering and AF start (this refocuses the camera quickly, especially in Zone AF
[* AE lock button]: Eye detection
[AF point button]: Pause Movie Servo AF
[DOF preview button]: AF point selection (use top wheel to scroll through AF modes)
[M-fn button]: Still <- -> movie switching (prevents focus hunting when subject is stationary)
[SET button]: Set AF point to center
Note: in the RED7 menu - Shutter btn function for movies: Fully-press - Start/stop mov rec

AF -some observations and experiences

My preferred look for wildlife video is well stabilized footage shot on a good, solid tripod and a decent video head. All the information here assumes the use of these tools.

Because the R5 easily loses focus on medium-to-fast moving subjects it can't be simply aimed at a subject in AF + tracking mode and left unattended. For subjects like slow swimming ducks it's OK to stand back from the camera in AF+ tracking mode and view the subjects on the LCD while moving the video head with a handle to get smooth tracking, but for regular birds in flight this has not worked well for me. Instead, I put my eye right on the viewfinder eyepiece and closely follow the action while actively working the various AF buttons as needed. It takes a fair bit of practice to learn how to do all this handling without introducing too many bumps and shakes into your footage. Just pressing the AF-ON button can make your footage shake so practice is needed.

For medium-to-fast moving subjects
For medium-to-fast moving subjects 90% of the time or more I use the Zone AF mode rather that AF+ tracking mode. And the object of the game here is to keep the subject that you're tracking in the centre of the 4-corner square overlay in the middle of the viewfinder as much and as long as possible. If your shooting several birds such as a row of flying geese, place the AF square over the lead geese or whichever ones your are wanting to feature and every few seconds or more press the AF-ON button which repeatedly refocuses the camera. This will ensure that the R5 doesn't surprise you and suddenly pop out of focus. Pressing the AF-ON button while you're smoothly panning the camera on a tripod causes little or no shake in the footage.

This technique is pretty easy to master as long as the birds are flying on a fairly level, predictable flight path as geese typically do. Where things get tricky is with birds that suddenly move up or down enough to move them out of the 4-corner square in the viewfinder. When that happens the R5 typically looses focus very quickly and this is where the rapid focus recover in the Zone AF node is great. Just move the square back over the subject and keep pumping the AF-ON button until focus is reacquired. In post I blend together these two or in-focus flight scenes with the fade-to-black transition and it all looks great. By the way, the focus recovery process is quite a bit slower when shooting in 4K120 that the other video formats.

For slow moving subjects
For these kinds of subjects I often still use the Zone AF method described above because I'm very comfortable with it and get consistently good results. However, as I've learned to trust the R5's AF+ tracking mode more I now use that mode quite a bit for slow moving subjects.

For stationary subjects
Often I come across stationary subjects that stay in the same focal plane. These typically do not need to be refocused after the initial focus is acquired, until they move out of the focal plane. In these cases I don't leave the AF Servo running, but I pause it with my middle back button which has been mapped to that function as you can see in the list above.

Here's a typical wildlife scenario. I spot a Green Heron flying into my area of a pond and I'm busily pumping my AF-ON button as I'm trying to track it as long as I can. It lands on a log near me to me and then just stands there for a long time without moving. It's a perfect chance for some great close-up footage. Now here's where a common problem can occur. The constant refocusing of the AF Servo mechanism can sometimes cause the image to twitch slightly which can be especially noticeable in the eyes. Some of us discussed this in the Back Country video forum and how we deal with it. The way I deal with it is to disable the AF Servo temporarily with the Servo pause button. This is a toggle button so when you press it again the AF Servo resumes. This is like moving from AF mode to manual mode seamlessly in an instant.

Well, I think that about it. Sorry it's taken so long for me to get this done, but I wanted to do a thorough job that would be a help. If you have any questions let me know.

Cheers,
Rudy

Rudy,
Wow, you really put some time into this in order to help me out - you went above and beyond - thank you so much.

I am now revisiting all of my camera settings based on this. I have everything set up for triple back button focus, for stills, and am now going to look at changing things up in video settings. I have most of my buttons already set up like you describe, but not all. I like the idea of a button to toggle movie servo. That could be really helpful. I wonder if, when toggled off, one can use manual focus, or the the lens switch needs to be changed. I'll try it. I also can't use my DOF button as you describe because I have it set to scroll through custom shooting modes in still and video.

Your AF advice is great. I have, indeed, found the limitations of full AF, grabbing something in the background/foreground. And I get it about using Zone AF, which I use but I sometimes struggle to keep the target in the box. Practice, practice. Pumping the AF button is also sound advice. I know that, but most of the time forget!

So I will get to work. I printed you your advice and am making my way through it. little by little. Again, thank you for putting so much time and effort into this reply.
Lane
 
Thanks Lane, I'm glad you think this might be useful. I spend my first year of R5 owners doing almost nothing but learning how to shoot wildlife video and these are the settings and strategies I felt worked best for me and I have been using them ever since.

Regarding your question: The answer is yes, when you pause the servo action you can use the manual focus ring just like in manual mode, except the manual focus assist element with the little moving triangles does not appear in the viewfinder. Another great thing is that if your subject moves slight you can merely hit the AF-ON button and the camera instantly refocuses but it stays in the servo paused (manual) mode until you hit the servo toggle button again. You should be seeing text at the bottom of the viewfinder that displays what move you're in (servo-on and servo-off when ever you hit the toggle button. This is similar to if you set up the camera for one-shot auto in the AF menu.

Regarding cycling through and choosing my custom modes, I hit the Mode button with my thumb which pops up the 3 modes whether in video of stills mode and then I use the Mode wheel to which of the 3 modes I want. To switch quickly between stills and video I use the M-fn button.

Good luck,
Rudy :)
 
Oh! I know the story!
:)
It is a fantastic video! I like your footage, music and narration and what is more important how all that is put together!
Interestingly, I deliberately wanted to have heat haze in my video to emphasis the heat in Africa ;-)

I have one silly question: you mentioned that the property where the cranes were is private. is it possible to talk to the owner and ask for permission? who does it work actually? I was just thinking about that option. Some people like to have pictures or videos shoot on their property and give the permission. But maybe it is a company's property and probably it is a stupid question ;-)
Hi Elena,

Thanks very much for your kind words. It was a real labour of love and my wife and I have come to love these wonderful birds who stay as a couple all their lives - we watch this video again and again.

Regarding getting access to the property, it simply was not possible. The benefits of being so far away was that I was able to get many great wide shots of them taking off, flying and landing, plus because no one was close enough to disturb them or affect their behaviour they were very active in normal ways.

Cheers,
Rudy
 
Thanks Lane, I'm glad you think this might be useful. I spend my first year of R5 owners doing almost nothing but learning how to shoot wildlife video and these are the settings and strategies I felt worked best for me and I have been using them ever since.

Regarding your question: The answer is yes, when you pause the servo action you can use the manual focus ring just like in manual mode, except the manual focus assist element with the little moving triangles does not appear in the viewfinder. Another great thing is that if your subject moves slight you can merely hit the AF-ON button and the camera instantly refocuses but it stays in the servo paused (manual) mode until you hit the servo toggle button again. You should be seeing text at the bottom of the viewfinder that displays what move you're in (servo-on and servo-off when ever you hit the toggle button. This is similar to if you set up the camera for one-shot auto in the AF menu.

Regarding cycling through and choosing my custom modes, I hit the Mode button with my thumb which pops up the 3 modes whether in video of stills mode and then I use the Mode wheel to which of the 3 modes I want. To switch quickly between stills and video I use the M-fn button.

Good luck,
Rudy :)
Rudy,
Im working on this and have some more questions. First - when I toggle the servo to off, I am not able to focus manuallly, as you describe. Am I missing something?
 
Rudy,
Im working on this and have some more questions. First - when I toggle the servo to off, I am not able to focus manuallly, as you describe. Am I missing something?
Hi Lane,

OK, I just checked it using my RF200-800 lens. Yes, it does work as previously described. When I press the Servo Pause toggle button thereby disengaging the servo action (continuous auto-focus) the camera temporarily goes into manual focus mode until you press the toggle button again. While the Servo mode was paused I was able to manually turn the focus ring and adjust the focus the way I would if it were in manual focus mode.

Cheers,
Rudy
 
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I really enjoyed your documentary, @Rudy Pohl. :)

I'm not especially interested in cranes, or I wasn't, but your documentary kept me captivated and curious until the end. It's a good balance of information, personal experience, touching moments, and patient observation of those scenes. I appreciated the smooth transitions between the different sections, including the change of music; it feels well organized. The voicing is spot on, too: calm, clear, not rushed, and matching the mood of the moment.

I had no idea those birds had such a varied display of social interactions. Fascinating!
 
I really enjoyed your documentary, @Rudy Pohl. :)

I'm not especially interested in cranes, or I wasn't, but your documentary kept me captivated and curious until the end. It's a good balance of information, personal experience, touching moments, and patient observation of those scenes. I appreciated the smooth transitions between the different sections, including the change of music; it feels well organized. The voicing is spot on, too: calm, clear, not rushed, and matching the mood of the moment.

I had no idea those birds had such a varied display of social interactions. Fascinating!
Hi Unscript,

Wow, thank so much for your very kind and encouraging words, and thank you for taking the time to write such a comprehensive review, I really appreciate your thoughtfulness on this. I too had no idea that these birds had such a varied display of social interactions. I shot the footage over a 5-hour period and then watched and rewatched the clips for several days at home as I researched online regarding what these various behaviors were. Only then did I come to appreciate the wonderful, rich social life of these graceful gentle giants.
Thanks again and best regards,
Rudy :)
 
Hi Lane,

OK, I just checked it using my RF200-800 lens. Yes, it does work as previously described. When I press the Servo Pause toggle button thereby disengaging the servo action (continuous auto-focus) the camera temporarily goes into manual focus mode until you press the toggle button again. While the Servo mode was paused I was able to manually turn the focus ring and adjust the focus the way I would if it were in manual focus mode.

Cheers,
Rudy
Thanks for looking into this, Rudy. Oddly, I am using the same setup that you describe and the same lens. I still don't get the manual operation when pausing servo. There must be a setting that I'm missing - I'll keep digging!
 
Thanks for looking into this, Rudy. Oddly, I am using the same setup that you describe and the same lens. I still don't get the manual operation when pausing servo. There must be a setting that I'm missing - I'll keep digging!
Lane,
There are some settings in menu to enable manual focus. I don't exactly remember where they are but that is most likely what is giving you the problem.
Dave
 
Dave and Rudy. Thanks again for your help. Another question: Both of you have mentioned turning eye AF off or on with the settings Rudy explained. I have assumed that its always good to have eye AF active - when would I want to turn it off?
 
Dave and Rudy. Thanks again for your help. Another question: Both of you have mentioned turning eye AF off or on with the settings Rudy explained. I have assumed that its always good to have eye AF active - when would I want to turn it off?
Lane,
I turn it off when they are at a distance and somewhat small in the frame.
Depth of field insures that if I got any part of the bird in focus, most all will be in focus.
Some video I watched 6-9 months ago recommened that. They "thought" it might be quicker to focus.
If subject somewhat fills the frame I will turn it on.
But I don't know if it is that big a deal if shooting with the slower zooms, but would with the Big White f2.8 f4.0 lenses.
Just my opinion.
Dave
 
Your video was inspired, inspring, and educational! Thank you for sharing. I appreciated the behavior explanations, and really loved the flight videos. Nice music too!

I hope you have an opportunity to visit Bosque Del Apache and the geographically close Bernardo wildlife area in central New Mexico. In December and I believe through early February, there are thousands of Sandhill's roosting. You would love it!
 
Your video was inspired, inspring, and educational! Thank you for sharing. I appreciated the behavior explanations, and really loved the flight videos. Nice music too!

I hope you have an opportunity to visit Bosque Del Apache and the geographically close Bernardo wildlife area in central New Mexico. In December and I believe through early February, there are thousands of Sandhill's roosting. You would love it!
Hi bkgeist,
Thanks for watching and for your very kind and encouraging words, I appreciate it. Yes, I would love to visit Bosque Del Apache, it sounds awesome!
Have a great day!
Rudy :)
 
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