CES Speculation

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I would love to see a Nikon Z DX-format that takes a D500's focus abilities and improves on that some. From what I'm reading, Nikon is focusing (no pun intended) solely on mirrorless, so I would be surprised to see any DSLR replacement to the D850.
 
Nikon is in a dilemma.If it brings out a better version of D500)/D 850 all action shooters may plan to buy and not move to its mirrorless since there is no worthwhile lenses for its mirrorless.
If it does not do so it would lose revenue since Z6 & Z7 ii are no earth shaking.
From my point of view if it can bring out a mirrorless with good AF and a 600 mm PF combo I would go for the combo
 
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I think the quickest win for them and most cost effective is to bring out another version of the FTZ to fix the AF speed.... then at least you have half a chance with the Z6/Z7II's I would have added a Z6II if the AF speed was the same as DSLR as Canon have managed... but it was the straw that broke the back of the idea.
 
Nikon is in a dilemma.If it brings out a better version of D500)/D 850 all action shooters may plan to buy and not move to its mirrorless since there is no worthwhile lenses for its mirrorless.
If it does not do so it would lose revenue since Z6 & Z7 ii are no earth shaking.
From my point of view if it can bring out a mirrorless with good AF and a 600 mm PF combo I would go for the combo

Losing sales from one Nikon product to another Nikon product is a better business model than losing out to another brand (Fuji seem to do it with all of their camera models)
 
I think the quickest win for them and most cost effective is to bring out another version of the FTZ to fix the AF speed.... then at least you have half a chance with the Z6/Z7II's I would have added a Z6II if the AF speed was the same as DSLR as Canon have managed... but it was the straw that broke the back of the idea.
I doubt whether this would be possible since Nikon has not been able to do it even after two iteraions of Zs though if it does it would be a welcome move.How ever with Z7 II aslo not meeting the standards set by Nikon itself for D 500/D 850 ,i doubt how many serious action photographers will buy the Z ii series
 
I doubt whether this would be possible since Nikon has not been able to do it even after two iteraions of Zs though if it does it would be a welcome move.How ever with Z7 II aslo not meeting the standards set by Nikon itself for D 500/D 850 ,i doubt how many serious action photographers will buy the Z ii series
I think Nikon (and Canon for that matter) see the adapter as a stopgap measure reducing one of the barriers to entry into their new mount and mirrorless systems. There is little incentive for them to make it "too good". The ultimate goal of any manufacturer is to sell product. In this case, they want to sell not only the camera bodies but the lenses to go with it. If it were even possible, modifying the FTZ to allow F mount glass to function as quickly on the Z cameras as native glass or have them function as well on Z bodies as they do on F bodies would be counter productive to them. Then used Nikon glass would become their biggest competitor and the manufacturer doesn't make any money off of used lenses (unless they are factory refurbished but that's a different story). I'm not suggesting they are intentionally hamstringing the adapters. Just suggesting it is possible the effort (R&D and Manufacturing) may be something that isn't worth the investment given their long-term goals.

My biggest barrier to entry on the Z cameras is there is nothing in the lineup that is equal to or better than the D500. Hopefully Nikon will fill that gap this year.
 
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Nikon is in a dilemma.If it brings out a better version of D500)/D 850 all action shooters may plan to buy and not move to its mirrorless since there is no worthwhile lenses for its mirrorless.
If it does not do so it would lose revenue since Z6 & Z7 ii are no earth shaking.
From my point of view if it can bring out a mirrorless with good AF and a 600 mm PF combo I would go for the combo

I agree 100%. A 600PF that's only available in the Z mount would convert a LOT of people in a hurry.
 
One point I would make when we say that the Z6/Z6II/Z7/Z7II are not as good as the D500 & D850, you need to ask for what purpose. I have a D500 & D850 and like them a lot. I also had a Z6 (now swapped for a Z6II) and a Z7. I hope to add a Z7II. I know I am fortunate to be able to have more than one camera body (my wife is very supportive of my photography hobby). And at this point, if I could have only one body to do everything, I'd still choose the D850. But I find myself preferring one of the Z bodies if I am doing most anything other than birds in flight or other fast action. I feel they work better for me in these cases, for many of the reasons Steve laid out in his thread on Top Ten Reasons to Go Mirrorless.
 
I'm quietly confident Nikon will launch the equivalent of the 2007 D3 albeit in their Z Mirrorless aka Z8. Possibly, they will take advantage of CES next month or wait until August.

Sooner or later, this release will upset the proverbial apple cart. Nikon's Hirotaka Ikegami has stated plainly "... We have also prepared the technology and expanded the lineup. I don't want to admit that I'm late, but I've finally got all the bullets, and I'll continue to expand. I am confident...." [if you register on the site, this article is open]

As already suggested, the 400 and 600 Z primes will be laughed at without a great leap fwd in the prowess of their MILC AF. This with a couple more innovations Nikon-style will clinch the lead.

History tells us never to underestimate the tenacity and resilience of the Japanese in adversity - Nikon especially.

I have a feeling or it is a hope that there will be some interesting annoucements at CP+ could be a long speculation thread.
 
There is currently a lot of challenges facing Nikon, be it the fires, the corona situation, and the recently communicated heavy financial loss!

I have recently decided to go for a full format Nikon. I still don’t know if I will go for the D750 or the Z6 (due to budget).. but with recent news I pulled the hand-breaks once again..

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I guess CP+ annoucements will start soon. Sony and Fuji did not wait and made big annoucements before the show. I suspect OM Digital Solutions Corporation will not have a lot to say so that leaves Canon and Nikon.

I see rumours for a Nikon firmware update for the Z ii range will be annouced maybe as soon as tomorrow.
 
Launched 2 days ago, this product opens up a whole new market for Nikon's imaging and lithography divisions. Never again can it be said that Nikon does not design its own sensors. And this is a BSI, Stacked sensor with the equivalent of 22 stops of dynamic range. It can do 1000 fps for industrial applications


 
There is currently a lot of challenges facing Nikon, be it the fires, the corona situation, and the recently communicated heavy financial loss!

I have recently decided to go for a full format Nikon. I still don’t know if I will go for the D750 or the Z6 (due to budget).. but with recent news I pulled the hand-breaks once again..

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Losses aren't all born equal. Losses due to asset write-offs and restructuring costs are often viewed as favorable and a sign that the company leadership is taking the needed steps to become competitive and profitable again - low, lackluster positive earnings are usually viewed far more negatively as a sign of the "head stuck in the sand syndrome" - I over simplify a bit but Nikon losses in 2020/1 are actually not devastating, they are more of the first kind and their balance sheet is still OK. Of course, they can't do it much longer because the previous year wasn't exactly exciting either. Then they'll amortize that loss against earnings for the next few years (I am not sure about the accounting rules in japan but they are usually pretty business friendly), and their cash flow will look like best in class again.
 
More information, including design for high dynamic range




Launched 2 days ago, this product opens up a whole new market for Nikon's imaging and lithography divisions. Never again can it be said that Nikon does not design its own sensors. And this is a BSI, Stacked sensor with the equivalent of 22 stops of dynamic range. It can do 1000 fps for industrial applications


 
From a wildlife perspective the Nikon Z firmware update is modest being focused on video and human eye detection improvements.

That's a bummer! It would be very welcomed an update for the tracking mode which can be a pain sometimes.
If the animal is moving, the tracking can work fine but if the animal stops moving for a while and we are just waiting for it to move again, sometimes the focus/track box starts to shift to another place which is quite annoying.
Actually, the issues seems very similar to the problem with human eyes. If the person is far away and the eye is too small, the system loses the eye. If the animal is far away, the tracking system loses the animal. If the animal is near us then the tracking does work better.

Just hope with the dual processor that they talked so much when presented the Z II bodies, double the processing power, double the speed, do allow them the work that firmware and bring the focus system near Cannon's and Sony's.
 
“Focus losing track “ Syndrom happens all the time with DSLR cameras (with 3 D tracking).. again if the animal is constantly moving then it’s ok, but as soon as it stops, the AF anticipates movement and suddenly starts jumping all over the place! Must be the algorithm and not the hardware.. since it’s the same on mirrorless as well.
 
OK, I'm going to throw it out there. The upcoming High end mirrorless from Nikon will be the first one with w global e-shutter of the big manufacturers.... That will be the initial point of difference compared to Sony/Canon.
 
Only Nikon knows if this feature is happening. One can argue Nikon has the resources to not only design but manufacture a MILC with a global shutter

It would be nice if Nikon was clearer about the future releases for 2021. Hopefully, we will hear something this coming Thursday, 25th


As pointed out by Thom Hogan in comments on this video, Nikon is less constrained to announce new products in one of the 3 tradeshows of the year

OK, I'm going to throw it out there. The upcoming High end mirrorless from Nikon will be the first one with w global e-shutter of the big manufacturers.... That will be the initial point of difference compared to Sony/Canon.
 
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