Agree. Bring it own. sigma Art in z mount
Has Nikon fallen asleep
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Nice camera. but I would like to see more from Nikon.
Price. D500 vs D850. How much did you save? Was the D500 inferior to the D850 except for the sensor size?
DX? No, I'd like to see Nikon go the other way, towards Medium Format, or FX-Plus.
I do understand that others want a DX Nikon Mirrorless offering form Nikon. However, DX seems like it's wasting a lot of the Z-Mount advantages.
But I'm really happy that Nikon has gone back to what made them the powerhouse that they were years ago: a great variety of fantastic quality lenses!
I do understand that others want a DX Nikon Mirrorless offering form Nikon. However, DX seems like it's wasting a lot of the Z-Mount advantages.
But I'm really happy that Nikon has gone back to what made them the powerhouse that they were years ago: a great variety of fantastic quality lenses!
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Doubtful it’s because of Red. Any integration of brands tech would take some time. It’s likely camera and lens development are 3-4 years before they hit the market. A new model car is 2-3 years for refresh and much longer for a total new model. It’s a design stage, costing with vendors, software development, lab testing, field testing, sourcing parts, manufacturing planning, manufacture tooling and process, marketing, distribution planning just to name a few steps. This doesn’t happen in months but rather years.
I'd like that!
I would like a good description of the lens development process. For example can a lens be designed by automated CAD type software? Or does the design require lots of designer input?
Not sure. Using logic of how my company and OEM I sell to launch new products from start to finish. I’d think in a lens the glass, coatings and ultimately growing the glass take the most time.
Vincent_VdB
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Whenever I see these questions and related answers can I only but wander how many of you would buy the lenses they wrote in their post(s). It is nothing short what Nikon had done to their Z mount lens line-up given the 2 years of covid struggle throughout the various industries. We are here at a wildlife forum and if you can't get your lens of choice for your wildlife shooting, well, not sure what one is after.
I give for wildlife 1 exception indeed and that is a 300mm f/2.8 or a tele zoom lens in that range but we have a budget lens (180-600), PF primes, fast 400 and 600mm lenses, ...
One of the best 1:1 micro lenses on the market for them little critters and sure, Nikon might surprise us one day with a 180/200mm micro lens or even a 2:1 micro lens but especially on the 2:1 lenses are their nice alternatives out there.
I give for wildlife 1 exception indeed and that is a 300mm f/2.8 or a tele zoom lens in that range but we have a budget lens (180-600), PF primes, fast 400 and 600mm lenses, ...
One of the best 1:1 micro lenses on the market for them little critters and sure, Nikon might surprise us one day with a 180/200mm micro lens or even a 2:1 micro lens but especially on the 2:1 lenses are their nice alternatives out there.
There are several "must" have lenses on my list. An S version of the 180-600 or 180-400 TC, fast ultra wide prime (i.e., 16mm f/1.8) and macro with a tripod collar.
Vincent_VdB
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And that is exactly what it is: your list
People reflect their own wish list as what Nikon (or whatever manufacturer) should make as they need it. In the end is there a need for clients buying these lenses and get the time and money spend on R&D and marketing back. We all have our wishes that can differ from one another but let us not make the clickbait title as Nikon has fallen asleep.
A 100-300 f4 could be interesting. Many years ago Sigma made one that I bought used for my Canon 5Dii. It was a great lens, but the autofocus failed after about a year and no replacement parts were available. An aperture of f4 makes it lightweight, but better than the consumer 70-300 lenses that are variable f4-5.6. (The Sigma was also internal zoom). With a built-in 1.4 TC it would be even better, even though it would "only" be f5.6. An f2.8 100-300 like Canon's is too heavy and too expensive. If they could split the difference and perhaps make it f3.5, even better.
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I wonder whether Nikon might respond to the release of Canon’s R1 with a sub-30 megapixel photojournalism powerhouse — not necessarily a dream camera for most contributors to our forum.
I suspect that Nikon execs are not paying as much attention to our wish lists as we would like them to.
… David
I suspect that Nikon execs are not paying as much attention to our wish lists as we would like them to.
… David
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What about the Luxotica 5% stake?
- Meta is reportedly also considering a stake of up to 5% in Essilor Luxottica. Ray-Ban currently sells Meta glasses with built-in cameras
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There is a lot of wishing going on. What most folks forget is R&D, market demand, planning and lead time to market.
Whilst they’re not lenses, that Chevy or Ford etc you just brought started its life at least 4 or 5 years ago.
Whilst they’re not lenses, that Chevy or Ford etc you just brought started its life at least 4 or 5 years ago.
Thom Hogan has identified 3 Nikon "lens allocation numbers" yet to arrive even though lenses with a later allocation number have arrived.
This indicates lenses actively in the pipe-line as distinct from when they will arrive.
Turning to DX, a slimmed-down Z9 would be relatively expensive with limited demand from a niche mainly wildlife market.
Whether Nikon see this as a profit maker I do not know.
This indicates lenses actively in the pipe-line as distinct from when they will arrive.
Turning to DX, a slimmed-down Z9 would be relatively expensive with limited demand from a niche mainly wildlife market.
Whether Nikon see this as a profit maker I do not know.
beano
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Probably wildlife, action sports and photo-journalism….I suspect a z9 dx with a fast lower resolution 24-30MP stacked or GS sensor to be in the thought-line. Probably not before end of next year, and as you say, probably pretty expensive.
Smart and successful technology companies, Nikon among them, carefully plan their development and release cycles according to market needs and demand, and they have just come off arguably some of the most significant deliveries in their history. Time for a pause to assess the market. Frankly, I don't see any major gaps in their current lineup, so a comparatively quiet period doesn't concern me.
Some photographers have small hands and find Nikon’s DX bodies much more comfortable to hold than full frame bodies. And the mirrorless DX bodies work just fine with full frame lenses on the Z lens mount.
I agree. Product development and prototype testing is often well more than a year for lenses, and even longer for a camera. Nikon has done well in producing a stable of 12 Z cameras and 40+ Z mount lenses and in just a few years. There’s much more to come.
Are Market Shares Meaningful? | Sans Mirror | Thom Hogan
2023 Mirrorless market share report raises questions
In the context of market share from the July 2024 article referenced above, Thom has said, "My sense is that, depsite the relatively large current market share differences, it’s still a wide open market for someone to make substantive moves. Again, the 2023 mirrorless volume was 4.8m units and it’s pretty easy to predict something around 6m units in 2025. That’s a pretty big increase to be fighting over, and I think we’re going to see some massive fights over it Real Soon Now."
If Thom's projection holds, we should see an up-tic in activity anytime now. In addition to lenses, he has some ideas on Nikon's camera lineup as well, in some of his other articles.
Hope so, if it means they get back into their development and production cycle, pre mirrorless age, which while "old school" and "slow" did guarantee impeccable quality assurance outcomes. Simply, let's try to put the sales and marketing teams in the back seat again (as if! LOL).
Really?!?! Nikon nearly went out of business before the Z introduction. Yes they have s solid basic line up but there are still significants gaps in their product line. If they stay quiet too long, they may be in trouble again.
waiting .. 2024 was rather slow for lens introduction and nothing (lens wise) really innovative this year.
joe43
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My Nikon Z mount lens wish is not likely to happen, but here it is. It is based on my needs and needs of my friends too whose needs differ from mine. Note that none of the desired lenses needs to contain a built in 1.4x tc:
70-300mm f4
300mm f4 pf
200mm f4 macro with tripod collar mount.
70-200mm f4
500mm f?? pf.
70-300mm f4
300mm f4 pf
200mm f4 macro with tripod collar mount.
70-200mm f4
500mm f?? pf.