Has your hunting experience helped your photography?

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For some reason you are quoting ME. I didn't initiate this thread.
And if someone throws a subject to the forum (his/her right), he/she can expect (hopefully civilized) answers.
Hunting IS a delicate subject. Adults are expected to know that.
Some of us hunt (or had), some don't, some dislike hunting. Should have been avoided from the start.
Now I presented facts and told my opinion. You can always refute them or teach me something I don't know. I'll be happy to learn.
That is what forums are for, IMHO.
Hope you agree.

Yeah, the post was started by me asking if hunting experience has helped your photography. Nowhere did I ask if you thought hunting was wrong or right. Stay on topic. If you can't, better to not reply at all or start your own thread.
 
For some reason you are quoting ME. I didn't initiate this thread.
And if someone throws a subject to the forum (his/her right), he/she can expect (hopefully civilized) answers.
Hunting IS a delicate subject. Adults are expected to know that.
Some of us hunt (or had), some don't, some dislike hunting. Should have been avoided from the start.
Now I presented facts and told my opinion. You can always refute them or teach me something I don't know. I'll be happy to learn.
That is what forums are for, IMHO.
Hope you agree.

Agree 100% but I've seen how these kinds of threads go in the past... As I noted earlier strong opinions trend to bring out the worst in people... Personally I respect anyones beliefs I don't have to agree with most people and most of the time I don't... and it's perfectly okay to have different opinions. Unfortunately there are not enough people that think that way anymore IMHO.
 
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Yeah, the post was started by me asking if hunting experience has helped your photography. Nowhere did I ask if you thought hunting was wrong or right. Stay on topic. If you can't, better to not reply at all or start your own thread.

Just read my posts and tell me where I tell anybody that hunting is wrong or right.
Users of the internet are advised to read two times and make a short pause before starting to type an answer.
You'll then probably notice that I just answered to your " Contrary to popular belief, hunters are some of the most ethical people I know in the outdoors. They also donate the most toward conservation. "
Commenting on that looks like staying on (your) topic ... :)

The other was on the way British hunt foxes. I did it just to assess that it's not a purely British game and the differences in the final treatment of the fox.
" The hunt continues until either the fox evades the hounds, goes to ground (that is takes refuge in a burrow or den) or is overtaken and usually killed by the hounds. " (Wikipedia)
Not really on topic but you didn't object either ...
 
Short answer, Yes it has, although latterly the camera has almost always been the camera as the instrument of choice. A privileged rearing in rural Africa has been equally essential in my professional life (ecologist, systematist, geologist) carrying out scientific surveys of biodiversity; these derived data are the quintessential foundation of informed decisions in conservation. Photography is integral to maximize the information on a museum specimen. Hence a big part of my photography has been and continues to be macro's. During my 14+ yrs employed as a curator of vertebrates, for the largest scientific collections on the African continent, my film Nikons were recording every other day, and quite often photographing invertebrate specimens for colleagues. (thanks be to the first digital cameras that cut costs vastly!)

To those who question my passion in obsessing about the natural world, I often quote the words of the well known doyen of wildlife management and conservation, Aldo Leopold, "A man may not care for golf and still be human, but the man who does not like to see, hunt, photograph, or otherwise outwit birds or animals is hardly normal. He is supercivilized, and I for one do not know how to deal with him. Babes do not tremble when they are shown a golf ball, but I should not like to own the boy whose hair does not lift his hat when he sees his first deer. We are dealing, therefore, with something that lies pretty deep."

Among his many, many icons of fine prose is his observation that " One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds. ...."

Many of Leopold quotes are scattered across the internet, but this is the best anthology
 
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To those who question my passion in obsessing about the natural world, I often quote the words of the well known doyen of wildlife management and conservation, Aldo Leopold...


This touches me more:

“We reached the old wolf in time to watch a fierce green fire dying in her eyes. I realized then, and have known ever since, that there was something new to me in those eyes—something known only to her and to the mountain. I was young then, and full of trigger-itch; I thought that because fewer wolves meant more deer, that no wolves would mean hunters’ paradise. But after seeing the green fire die, I sensed that neither the wolf nor the mountain agreed with such a view.”

SCNR
 
Short answer, Yes it has, although latterly the camera has almost always been the camera as the instrument of choice. A privileged rearing in rural Africa has been equally essential in my professional life (ecologist, systematist, geologist) carrying out scientific surveys of biodiversity; these derived data are the quintessential foundation of informed decisions in conservation. Photography is integral to maximize the information on a museum specimen. Hence a big part of my photography has been and continues to be macro's. During my 14+ yrs employed as a curator of the largest scientific collections on the African continent, my film Nikons were recording every other day, and quite often photographing invertebrate for colleagues. (thanks be to the first digital cameras that cut costs vastly!)

To those who question my passion in obsessing about the natural world, I often quote the words of the well known doyen of wildlife management and conservation, Aldo Leopold, "A man may not care for golf and still be human, but the man who does not like to see, hunt, photograph, or otherwise outwit birds or animals is hardly normal. He is supercivilized, and I for one do not know how to deal with him. Babes do not tremble when they are shown a golf ball, but I should not like to own the boy whose hair does not lift his hat when he sees his first deer. We are dealing, therefore, with something that lies pretty deep."

Among his many, many icons of fine prose is his observation that " One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds. ...."

Many of Leopold quotes are scattered across the internet, but this is the best anthology

My favorite quote of his: "There are some who can live without wild things, and some who cannot."
 
Yes, especially still-hunting, and later transitioning from gun to bow. This extends beyond the animals and their senses, and even beyond the habitat (food, water, cover, space, arrangement). I am still learning and am amazed by the symbiotic relationships that weave through nature -- between fungi in the soil and plants and between plants and animals and the reverse -- alleochemical qualities of plants. The more I learn, the less I know.

But, I am concerned that technology may be short-circuiting some of the knowledge required in the past.
 
This post is about if Hunting experience help taking Photos.. I Don't think we need to bring "Sport" and Cruelty into it... I've notified Steve so he can closely Monitor this thread or shut it down as he see fit.
I took the OP to mean us regular folks that grew up hunting and have taken up photography. Not to support a rich doctor flying around the world to kill a protected lion to feed his ego. Big difference.
Original is a good post
 
It certainly has for me, and vice-versa as well. Finding and photographing small birds has really helped hone my spotting abilities, that I thought were pretty good in my hunting days.

Besides finding subjects to capture, the big advantage imo is putting shotgunning skills to use for BIF. Good shotgun technique has you swinging with the bird, starting from behind it. When your sights come upon the bird you squeeze the trigger while following through with the swinging motion.

I use the same process now, except when I get close to coming upon the bird from behind, I mash down the back-button (while using continuous focus, of course.) When I do get to the bird it instantly comes into focus and I start "shooting."

I would encourage anyone struggling with BIF to watch some tutorials about this process. It takes a bit of practice, but will increase your keeper rate over the "point and shoot" technique.

I don't hunt with a gun anymore; the camera is way more enjoyable for me and everyone goes home happy. :)
yup ... I have switched to the camera only after years of waterfowl and upland bird hunting and now hunt with my camera. Between bird hunting and sporting clays I have probably shot over 500,000 flying targets. Even how I hold a camera and long lens comes from my hunting and target rifle and shotgun holding experience. I just do not use back button AF, tried it for a year but went back, since I want my thumb free to move my focus point, use my af/on button to lock metering etc. and using AFC (continuous auto focus) and using the shutter halfway down to focus is fast and simple for me and the real key is the AFC.
 
In Short yes without a doubt... I'm able to get a really good read on most animals and I'm very in tune with there reactions to me. next week I might even get the tree stand out and start using it for more wildlife shots.. I don't really hunt anymore (mostly because I don't have a place too do it, and I don't want to be in the woods with a bunch of fools) lol.
I hear ya on being in the woods with a bunch of fools ... our human population has exploded in Idaho and with the pandemic many newbies are taking to the hills and the regular in person hunter safety training has not been available recently ... so I am staying out of the woods today it is opening day of general deer season here in Idaho.
 
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Hunting has changed greatly over the years with the now common use of automated feeders and trail cameras and ATV's to where it is more collecting carcasses than actual hunting.

I have benefited from the far greater availability of camo clothing in the USA and blinds and compact binos and other items that target the "hunter" market and that work equally well for the wildlife photographer.
 
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