Is Sony taking over/has it taken over the world?

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Abinoone said:
Good points, but I just don't think of my photography from an ROI point of view. I'm not a professional, so the only person I'm trying to please is myself. I'm in it for the experience, not the bragging rights or monetary gain. To me, it makes absolutely no sense to chase the next greatest feature, at significant cost, for a marginal gain in enjoyment. But, I'm just an old fossil anyway 🤪
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I am in the same boat. But I come back from a trip and realize that I missed several images I would love to have. Do I got back to try to get them? At what cost? I give up an opportunity for another trip. If I am going for only the enjoyment of the trip, I am an eco-tourist, not a nature photographer. i want both. I want to maximize (within reason) the number of wall hangers (to use a Stevism) I get. Now 30 FPS that gets me 3 times the number of nearly identical keepers as 10 fps is not worth much to me. But getting that hard to capture image is worth something extra.
 
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Abinoone said:
And he shoots Nikon and Canon as well. Well now, we're up to two Sony shooters. Others?
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Well, Artie Morris (birdsasart.com) is now a Sony shooter and rather rabid Sony advocate, but he's kind of rabid about anything he likes, previously Canon and then Nikon before switching to Sony. Superb bird photographer.

But I''m convinced all these cited photographers would make great images with a Kodak Brownie. It just easier with the new stuff. :)
 
Abinoone said:
Yeah, but I'm thinking of functionality beyond what exists now, even for Sony.
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Abinoone said:
Well, I don't know who you follow but some of my heros are:

Tom Mangelsen - Nikon
Jim Clark - Nikon
Joel Sartore - Nikon
John Shaw - Nikon
David Yarrow - Nikon
Ami Vitale - Nikon
Amy Gulick - Nikon
Moose Peterson - Nikon
Suzi Esterhas - Canon
Melissa Groo - Canon
Art Wolfe - Canon

That's pretty good company, in my view.
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#1 Steve Perry


‘nuff said
 
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RichF said:
How much do be spend traveling? Think about ROT$ (return on travel $)😁 If you spend $10-15,000 going to Africa, $6-10,000 in Alaska, Ecuador, Costa Rico, ... Think about the cost of each keeper. Now more of the same, may not be worth too much, but how about sharper images, and different sharper images. If you can get the equivalent images from 1 trip with eye tracking gear that you would get from 2 trips w/o it, ... what is that worth?
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For me I'd sooner make 2 trips. :)
 
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Abinoone said:
Agreed, but at what cost? Is animal eye tracking worth dumping $20,000+ worth of gear and investing a similar amount, or more, into new equipment (not to mention the associated learning curve)? And, would having it increase your keeper rate enough to justify the substantial cost in time and money?
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Yes it’s worth it. The bird eye af when done right is simply mind blowing. I’ve captured images that with a DSLR would have been a struggle. My subjects are 70% birds and I am taking my photography more and more seriously the last few years. I’m also spending more traveling to photograph subjects. I’m also 46 which I’m not sure we all weigh in on decisions to do things. I’ve noticed some that don’t want to change are in their 60’s to 70’s and if I was in that boat I wouldn’t spend the money either. So for me and my passion it’s worth the investment for a better experience and maximizing my investments by having better results.
 
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dtibbals said:
Yes it’s worth it. The bird eye af when done right is simply mind blowing. I’ve captured images that with a DSLR would have been a struggle. My subjects are 70% birds and I am taking my photography more and more seriously the last few years. I’m also spending more traveling to photograph subjects. I’m also 46 which I’m not sure we all weigh in on decisions to do things. I’ve noticed some that don’t want to change are in their 60’s to 70’s and if I was in that boat I wouldn’t spend the money either. So for me and my passion it’s worth the investment for a better experience and maximizing my investments by having better results.
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Seems like you've done the right thing for yourself - congrats! However, I take umbrage with the suggestion that older folk resist change or can't afford it because of their age. That's simply not true at all.
 
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RichF said:
I am in the same boat. But I come back from a trip and realize that I missed several images I would love to have. Do I got back to try to get them? At what cost? I give up an opportunity for another trip. If I am going for only the enjoyment of the trip, I am an eco-tourist, not a nature photographer. i want both. I want to maximize (within reason) the number of wall hangers (to use a Stevism) I get. Now 30 FPS that gets me 3 times the number of nearly identical keepers as 10 fps is not worth much to me. But getting that hard to capture image is worth something extra.
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Just out of curiosity, how many actually hang on your wall? In my case, very few, although I have a ton that I really like and enjoy (digitally).
 
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Abinoone said:
Just out of curiosity, how many actually hang on your wall? In my case, very few, although I have a ton that I really like and enjoy (digitally).
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I have around 20 framed images I am about to retire (from various shows). in the house - close to a dozen.
 
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Abinoone said:
Well, I don't know who you follow but some of my heros are:

Tom Mangelsen - Nikon
Jim Clark - Nikon
Joel Sartore - Nikon
John Shaw - Nikon
David Yarrow - Nikon
Ami Vitale - Nikon
Amy Gulick - Nikon
Moose Peterson - Nikon
Suzi Esterhas - Canon
Melissa Groo - Canon
Art Wolfe - Canon

That's pretty good company, in my view.
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Mark Smith Sony came from Nikon
Steve Mathis Sony came from Nikon
Steve Perry shooting Sony, wife shooting Canon now Nikon collecting dust.
Moral of the story is those are 3 guys unlike Art Wolf and Moose that are paid to shoot gear. These 3 pay for it with their own money. They are serious enough about it to spend money for results but not brand loyal. I’ll spend money on results.
I have friends that will only buy Chevy or Ford. I’ve owned Chevy, GMC, Ford, Toyota. I’ll buy what I perceive as best for what I want at the time. It’s my money and I’ll spend it for results not a brand.
 
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Abinoone said:
Just out of curiosity, how many actually hang on your wall? In my case, very few, although I have a ton that I really like and enjoy (digitally).
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Every wall in the house except the kids’ bedrooms pretty much. I don’t know, maybe 25 or so and I rotate 2 or 3 out every year to hang the favorites of the last 12 months. Usually my wife has her favorites framed from my birthday every year.
 
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Abinoone said:
Seems like you've done the right thing for yourself - congrats! However, I take umbrage with the suggestion that older folk resist change or can't afford it because of their age. That's simply not true at all.
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Not change. That’s not the point. It’s a financial consideration. It’s where at that age it’s worth spending $10’s of thousands on new gear.
 
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Abinoone said:
Seems like you've done the right thing for yourself - congrats! However, I take umbrage with the suggestion that older folk resist change or can't afford it because of their age. That's simply not true at all.
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I think that’s the point. It’s what’s right for me. What’s right for anyone else really doesn’t matter. It does matter when people question your choice or why you are wrong because it’s not the right one for them.
 
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Abinoone said:
"At that age"? Oooh, really? I'm done here.
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Don’t take offense. Visit Steve’s post that is a poll about change. You will see a common thread by folks in retirement that they don’t want to spend the money to switch to an entirely new system. It’s facts from folks who are in that situation. It’s completely understanding.
 
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dtibbals said:
Mark Smith Sony came from Nikon
Steve Mathis Sony came from Nikon
Steve Perry shooting Sony, wife shooting Canon now Nikon collecting dust.
Moral of the story is those are 3 guys unlike Art Wolf and Moose that are paid to shoot gear. These 3 pay for it with their own money. They are serious enough about it to spend money for results but not brand loyal. I’ll spend money on results.
I have friends that will only buy Chevy or Ford. I’ve owned Chevy, GMC, Ford, Toyota. I’ll buy what I perceive as best for what I want at the time. It’s my money and I’ll spend it for results not a brand.
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If you're suggesting that these pros only shoot with they gear that they do because they're bought off, I think you do them a real disservice, but what the heck do I know? I'm just an old fossil. 🤪
 
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dtibbals said:
Don’t take offense. Visit Steve’s post that is a poll about change. You will see a common thread by folks in retirement that they don’t want to spend the money to switch to an entirely new system. It’s facts from folks who are in that situation. It’s completely understanding.
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I don't recall Steve's poll mentioning age category, but maybe I missed something. 🤓
 
It's ok to tell others what they don't need and how much they can spend. That's normal :oops:
 
FB101 said:
Tony Northrop shoots Sony... ok he‘s a joke, he doesn’t count :)
Fro also shoots Sony but not he can’t do wildlife so he’s out too.
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I think Nick Page and Sigma Sreedharen shoot Sony now but they are from my state so it's too biased they are out also only Art Wolffe counts.....lol
 
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Abinoone said:
If you're suggesting that these pros only shoot with they gear that they do because they're bought off, I think you do them a real disservice, but what the heck do I know? I'm just an old fossil. 🤪
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It’s a fact some do. The two I specifically mentioned are brand ambassadors. I had dinner with moose this year in TX with Nikon and any guess who paid the bill? Nikon. Fact is anyone who is a brand ambassador shoots one brand because of money. You think they are a brand ambassador for free?
 
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