Eric, I suspect you are correct.
Nikon 800mm PF
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Maljo
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$6000 if correct is doable.
Im actually more excited about the prospect of a 400mm f4pf. Im willing to bet it wont be a 4.5 as some are speculating. with the 800pf coming in around 6k Id have to guess the 400pf will be under $4k
I completely agree. A 400mm f4 would be interesting.
arbitrage
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I always liked my Canon 400 f/4 DO II lens and it was the last Canon lens I sold off. I even kept it after selling my last Canon body just to keep using it adapted on the A9. It worked really well with the TCs even back in the DSLR days when TCs were a bit more unpredictable than they are on MILCs.
I know the detailed measurements of the silhouettes shows it may be closer to f/4.5 but we now know those can change (as the 800PF grew in size) so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a 400/4 PF.
Canon sold theirs for $6900 but if the 800PF does come in at $6K then this 400 will be well below that. Maybe $4K?
I know the detailed measurements of the silhouettes shows it may be closer to f/4.5 but we now know those can change (as the 800PF grew in size) so I wouldn't be surprised if it is a 400/4 PF.
Canon sold theirs for $6900 but if the 800PF does come in at $6K then this 400 will be well below that. Maybe $4K?
I started a "waitlist" for this lens at my local camera store two months ago. I'm #1 on that list ... until all the NPS folk come out of the woodwork, ha!
fcotterill
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The pace to launch is hotting up. Steve just posted his teaser video, under a NDA prior to being allowed to detail more on the launch day. And Tom Mason did a preview from the Finnish Arctic. There are other influencer outputs but these two are respected wildlife photographers.
Bottom line, what are seeing so far confirms ergonomics and quality etc. So long as the rumoured price bears true!
Bottom line, what are seeing so far confirms ergonomics and quality etc. So long as the rumoured price bears true!
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arbitrage
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Have you tried to join NPS? Looks like you have enough gear to qualify. Or are they too strict on having to make money from your photography?
arbitrage
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If I bought this lens I'd hope for someone to 3D print a hood at least 1/2 that length. That hood is big (as is typical for these big primes). I'm currently running a 4.5cm long hood on my 600/4 and love it.
DGettisNC
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Probably late, and I am definitely not a full time photog, but I started the application process myself 2 days ago. Have the lenses and bodies to make it, just depends on how they want to handle the income part lol...I have sold a few things but technically I think I'm in the red about $20,000k so far lol.
NPS should go by how many hours per week instead of earnings...
I'd wager NPS applications went through the roof after Z9 release.
I quit the process of applying every time I get to the bit about deriving income from photography. I'm an enthusiast, about to retire from my "real" job, at which point I will have more time to devote to photography. I haven't sold a thing, or charged fees to dispense my advice, ha. So, yeah, I qualify because I live in the US and I have lots of Nikon gear, but am not a professional. Anyone else figure out how to become NPS when your livelihood is not derived from photography?
John Navitsky
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when you get rejected, you can make an argument, but my guess is you need to at least be philosophically a professional in some sense
I can easily be philosophical!
Matt Irwin has a pretty good video up just now...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwGwiSkIiB0 Little different approach with more photography and video in the field...stunning in 4K!
John Navitsky
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i think the physical and focal plane issues are relatively straight forward (they'll either work or not). the problem is both reverse engineering the electronic protocol and converting one protocol to another. my belief is all of this was easier in older lens designs where things were likely both simpler and probably similar
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The flange distance is wrong. It's easy to go from a deeper false distance to a shorter one since that that's required is a tube to make up the difference (i.e. FTZ). However, using a short-flange distance lens is a bigger issue. It won't be able to focus because it wasn't designed to be used that close to the sensor. You'd have to have some sort of glass in the adapter that adjusted the effective focus distance, kind of like a pair of glasses. This would come with a notice optical penalty.
abc123brian
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Adding to what @Steve said. Nikon has the shortest flange distance on the Z mount so in theory, you could use an adapter to use other manufacture lenses on the Z but not the other way around.
Darrellhar
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I’m not a full time photographer and I’ve been NPS for 3 or 4 years. I don’t recall any questions about income from photography (although that obviously could have changed). I do remember providing link to my website and a picture of current work.
John Navitsky
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things may have changed then. there is a statement in the requirements about income at this time. i think at this point it mostly comes down to what your web site looks like. ie, if your web site shows/implies you are engaged in professional photography
They've always had question about whether you make money with photography. But no stipulation about how much. The questions are vague enough to place the bar pretty low.
fcotterill
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This may have been shared already.... some images and video. Extraordinary optic indeed
I think Nikon has the shortest flange distance so it cant focus at infinity on a longer flange distance.
For my use, the weight of the lens will be the biggest determining factor. I also think the lens will be an extremely successful seller as long as it is 7K or less. I think if they release this lens north of 8K, it will be a dud. I personally don’t see any reason it should be more than 2-3K more than the 500 mm PF. If they market this lens correctly and come in at a decent price, it will sell Iike hot cakes. I certainly don’t expect they’ll be as many pre-orders for this as there were for the Z9. I’m keeping my fingers crossed it will come in at $6999.99