Nikon D6 - what are your thoughts on this camera ?

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Guys, I am new to the forum & this topic hit the spot for me. I am in the market for a new camera. My progression has been FTN, D100, D700 & now 2 810’s that I love. I have had the 810s for 6/7 years & land scape was my thing.

The last few years I have developed an interest in wildlife photography, living in the Pacific Northwest. I bought a used 200-400 ED VR1 & matched it with the 810s with fair results, learning asI went. Steve’s books have excellerated my learning curve & now I am looking at a D6.

I am very happy with the 810 for landscapes & the D850 doesn’t interest me for that task. In addition, by the time I add the necessary options to an 850, I am close , if $2,000 is close, to a D6.

I need to also add that I thrive on learning & the challenges of a D6 is intriguing. Am I crazy? Should I get an D850.
Welcome aboard.

Given you have two D810s, you like them, use them for landscape work (for which they’re fantastic), thrive on the learning and, perhaps most importantly, have a growing interest in wildlife photography, I would strongly endorse the D6. For this pursuit, sports or any action, it is a superb tool. I wouldn’t discourage anyone from getting a D850 (it is a fantastic camera and I’ve been very happy with mine for three years now). Yes, its focusing system, FPS potential and even the sensor too will give you a lift over the D810 but the D6 (or a used D5 as has been mentioned elsewhere) will give you a quantum leap over what you have and be very additive to your toolkit.
For me, the focusing system, low light/high ISO capability and, of course FPS have been big additions to my D500/D850.
If you’re into shooting wildlife and want to do more of it, think of your D810 as a good handsaw. The D5/D6 is a powerful chainsaw.
 
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The D6 is a fine camera and I suspect you'd really like it for wildlife work. That said, the D5 is also a stellar camera that shares the same sensor with the D6 and would be a fantastic upgrade for action work compared to your D810. I'm currently running a D500, D850 and D5 and by far my D5 is my favorite for any kind of action or low light work.

If it's in the budget you won't go wrong with a D6 for low light and fast action work but if budgets are a bit tight the D5 gives you the vast majority of the D6's feature set and matching sensor performance for quite a bit less cash especially if you can find new old stock or a low mileage used D5 in mint condition.
I too have the same cameras in my stable and I would agree, I find myself liking the D5 more and more...
 
I am a little late to the conversation but will weigh in nevertheless. Despite the lukewarm reception of the D6 I took the plunge this past July. It certainly was a gamble given the posted spec’s. From day one, the D6 has exceeded my expectations. The autofocus system and low light performance are highlights. Don’t get me wrong, the D850 is an amazing camera but it isn’t necessarily the right tool for all circumstances. For low light fast moving subjects such as birds in flight, given me the D6 every time.
Steve Perry has given the most balanced assessment that I have yet seen. Have a look and decide if this tool is for you. Form me, I would buy another in a heartbeat.


1/100 F4 ISO 12,800 with a little Lightroom noise reduction. Image is tack sharp and very clean when viewed on my Benq. Have a couple at ISO 20,000 that are quite respectable too.
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The D5/D6 will autofocus better than the D850 or the D500 when tracking birds in flight going toward or away from the camera. It also can sustain a higher fps burst in that same situation. I was tempted to buy one when I was contacted by NPS but was not keen on carrying two D850 bodies with the battery grip and a D6 as well. The D6 is not a good backup for the D850 with the much lower resolution images it provides. With our overseas travel cancelled for 2020 and not likely to resume until 2022 the idea of spending $7100 on a new D6 is not at all appealing. By 2022 there should be some lightly used copies of the D6 on the market, maybe sooner with the onging recession.
 
I think with the pandemic many if not most pros have put off buying new gear. Face it, no Olympics, little to none sports to shoot. The difference between the D5 and D6 isn't really that great, if you have a D5 you probably can't justify a D6. Had the D6 come with 24mp or maybe a 30-32 mp sensor I think it would be a different story but it didn't because the sports shooters didn't need it. Us wildlife folks would like a bump in mp but Nikon doesn't give us much consideration.
I have a D6, demand was so low I got one of the first batch from my dealer. It's a great camera for some things and I have yet to have the opportunity to test it on my most demanding subject, diving osprey. The D6 arrived too late for the herring run this year, hopefully it'll get a good workout next spring!
There are a lot of great cameras out there, the D850 is still said to be the best all-around dslr.
Agree with all said so far, the issue is, if you are a sports action photographer working for media groups you are now more compelled to also provide some form of video clips,.
With the roll out of 5G this is happening more and more, 5G gen 2 roll out will see this explode and the end of still photography as a main stream media.
The internet is dictating our future and shaping our lives.....some say its good many say bad.
Advertising on the web is becoming more and more video clips, many media groups are taking stills from video, even iPhone clips are proving to be most popular because of instant connectivity and standard formats easily processed and distributed.

Still photos sadly are becoming obsolete in the main stream. Example A Money shot of a surfer on the key point of their ride gets 150-300 views, the same footage on videio that last 45 seconds gets 250,000 to 300,000 views. ( only and example) another want to see a 2 years old grandchild running around the park on a video or frozen stills...
Wedding photographers......for the main stream clients unless they are specialists in Video they just don't get the Gig Period. Clients want video mainly with a few stills.
If your doing serious sports action or events for media groups as a job and need Video with some stills the 1DX MK III is the ticket so I hear.

Here in OZ the demand is for No shutter noise at official political moments, go figure who or what wins that.
Its a tough gig for Pros, its even harder for selling pro cameras, I have friends who do weddings for a living and they said if they didn't move to Video quickly and professionally they would be out of work Period.
Ok for me I am not interested in video, I like stills for what I do, sadly the internet evolution and 5 g is changing the world as we knew it.
For people making a living in media and sports coverage, and weddings in a main stream, sadly as Video killed the radio star, Video is now killing the still photographic star.
I have always belived Its not the rich and powerful that survive change...…..its the adaptable.
Nikon at the top needs to realize the fish rots from the head. Its been almost impossible to understand the decisions and choices Nikon has made over the past.
The D6 is awesome and underrated, but really needs more adaptability to survive.

Only an opinion

From Oz down under.
 
Great input that will help me with my decision. I am thinking a D6 is in my future. Most likely it’s going to be my last camera body. I am really glad that I became a member of this group. The comments are top notch & well presented. Thanks
 
Great input that will help me with my decision. I am thinking a D6 is in my future. Most likely it’s going to be my last camera body. I am really glad that I became a member of this group. The comments are top notch & well presented. Thanks
I bought the D6 with the understanding it would be my last 'pro' camera body, and very likely the last period (tho I retain, without the $ resources, a lust for a medium format camera :) ). Good luck with your decision.
 
Great input that will help me with my decision. I am thinking a D6 is in my future. Most likely it’s going to be my last camera body. I am really glad that I became a member of this group. The comments are top notch & well presented. Thanks

Please don't get me wrong about still photography being or becoming more obsolete in main stream media advertising platforms, it still has a place especially in wild life photography.

I Love Nikon for its image files, I love the D5 and the underrated D6, (the little use I have had with the rented D6), I recently decided to get off the marry go round and stopped with collecting gear and did a refresh look at what I do, what I have, what do I really need not want, I looked at the thousands if images on file and realised that mainly14 to 105 is roughly 45% of what I shoot, 190 to 500 is the 47%, so I consolidated a lot of gear D4s D5 and lenses galore, tripods and so much gear I hardly used, and adapted with a little compromise for 2x D850 bodies again based on what I really do, I feel the Z7 gen 3 or 4 may be a wise wait. Or if a Mirrorless D6 version with 45 mp came out it would be the wholly grail LOL. It seems that's where things are going any way. the Pro market is dying so enthusiast markets converted to this style of camera may spark growth. Even Medium format in SLRS or Mirrorless, watch the Nikon large lens mount opening its got room for a MF sensor. We are seeing 12/20 fps at 45mp already, 200 mp sensors are on hold with Canon already.

I have found as we go on the circle of different gear D4s D5 D500 D6 D850 Z6 Z7 we seem to end up back with something like the D850... Z7 or Cannon equivalent.
We want blistering speed and resolution to boot, the very things the camera companies can easily give us but will never give us in one camera that dose it all because they don't want to.

Composition and story telling of that real moment that passed in a split second is all we have left to do.
Only and opinion Oz down Under
 
I loved my D850... but I fell and broke beyond Nikon repair...so I figured let me try a Z7, great for stills but no way action for me anyway...I sold it....what did I do, bought the Z7 ll, it is much better....but I was out today and when the going got tough, I gave it a rest and picked up my D6. I just do this for fun and learn something every time I'm out.....Nikon D6 is a awesome camera !

Thanks,
Chuck
 
I loved my D850... but I fell and broke beyond Nikon repair...so I figured let me try a Z7, great for stills but no way action for me anyway...I sold it....what did I do, bought the Z7 ll, it is much better....but I was out today and when the going got tough, I gave it a rest and picked up my D6. I just do this for fun and learn something every time I'm out.....Nikon D6 is a awesome camera !

Thanks,
Chuck

Sorry to hear about your D850, Do you miss it, I Cant disagree with you on the D6 its addictive powerful fast and just all round brilliant, focusing and colour is so good everything is just awesome, Here in Oz its $10,000 AUD.
The Z series is like fruit on the tree not quite ripe, I cant understand why Nikon just doesn't build it right from the beginning. The sacrifice of the D5 D6 is simply for crop ability and resolution and avoid super large lens dependency, ...….for what I do, if that wasn't important I would live with the D5 D6 happily as the one camera, but hey 20 mp versus 45, next to be 60mp, makes you wonder.
The industry is moving to 60mp as a bench mark more and more, we will see a D6 1DXmkII versions going to 35 45 mp. The D850 Z7 will be eventually 60 to 80mp.
They just drip feed us LOL.
 
That was my routine, when light was good D850 for sure, crop factor was a big plus....and I miss it, I was hoping that the mirrorless would work and to be honest I think with sometime on it the Z7ll I will be ok...I hope. "But" when I knew I could get the subject in the frame I always used the D5 and now D6...I always thought the photos look alive, colors and focus. I just shoot wildlife, landscapes I'm lost lol.

Thanks,
Chuck
 
I'm another on the fence, was all set to buy a D6. But now that it's available at my fav suppliers, I am hesitating. I use the D5, just love my D5. It's still in super shape, no concerns. Not sure I'd gain much with the D6. I currently use the D810 (seldom), and D500 too.
 
I had over 400,000 shutter counts on my D5, was in great shape, did ok selling ...for me it was time to get a new one...I think the auto focus in the D6 is better, grabs faster.. and I like how you can custom your focus points in group mode, works really nice. I would say rent one and see for yourself. I really like it.

Thanks,
Chuck
 
I have a D6 and it's really underrated in my opinion. I also don't think there's anything wrong with an enthusiast using one - I have a feeling high-end enthusiasts are probably the primary buyers, truth be told.

This guy has a nice review on it, although my wife says he's kind of a dork:

Steve, is the AF tracking of the D6 at all better than than the D850 in good to excellent light situations.
 
That was my routine, when light was good D850 for sure, crop factor was a big plus....and I miss it, I was hoping that the mirrorless would work and to be honest I think with sometime on it the Z7ll I will be ok...I hope. "But" when I knew I could get the subject in the frame I always used the D5 and now D6...I always thought the photos look alive, colors and focus. I just shoot wildlife, landscapes I'm lost lol.

Thanks,
Chuck
Hi Chuck, Exactly, spot on, that's the experience I had, however I don't shoot a lot of super low light and therefor the D850 compromise was worth it for all the reasons you miss your D850.
I shoot some wild life, mostly sports action, Rodeo, WSL Surfing, athletics, Fine art Model shoots, street photography, landscape and seascape, commercial, portrature.
I find the D4s d5 is great, its just the D850 with a power pack delivers all-round what I need. I find the D850 is excellent to 6400 ISO I can go much higher if needed but the sweet limit is 6400.

Enjoy, stay safe.


Oz Down Under.
 
I'm another on the fence, was all set to buy a D6. But now that it's available at my fav suppliers, I am hesitating. I use the D5, just love my D5. It's still in super shape, no concerns. Not sure I'd gain much with the D6. I currently use the D810 (seldom), and D500 too.
Rent a D6 then a D850 in there lies the answer to your dilemma, you may find it easy to sell your D600 and D500, it is worth renting to see.
Only and opinion,
Oz Down Under
 
here's my 0.02c on the pros/cons of current cameras. I've been shooting Nikon since 1984, so continue to be amazed at the sheer excellence of today's cameras and optics. More recently I've used a D500 and Z7 alongside a D850. With mixed feelings, I traded in the D500 2+ years ago. Earlier this year I consolidated my FX system to a D850 and D780 - wildlife and some landscapes, also macro of inverts, herps etc. When funds and logistics permit, a Used D5 will replace the D780 (because I cannot afford a D6!).

And I'm waiting on Nikon upgrading the Z cameras to fix the weak arm in the triad of Haptics-Ergonomics // Autofocus // Image Quality. For my needs, where and when subjects demand, all too often gaps in Custom options of the Z6/Z7 prevent doing justice to the excellent sensors. (As with the D780, these gaps are especially inexcusable at these cameras' prices.)

D500 - cost effectively arguably the best camera for action genres, including relevant aspects of wildlife (eg BIF) with D5 AF engine

D850 (also Z7) - permits cropping and excellent quality. Future proofs almost all realistic options for printing. The diversity of Custom options in the D850 positions this camera far ahead of Zeds and most DSLRs. D500 has similar advantages

D780 - IQ is almost as good in lowlight as D5/D6, Z i-Menu useful. The Liveview is best performing yet on a DSLR ie silent shooting etc. The AFC is significantly better than Z6/Z7. Customization poor, which handicaps using AF modes efficiently.

It's further prosumer cameras (D780, Z6) with the modern 24mp sensors have excellent IQ, which is hard to brand inferior in lowlight compared to Pro models (ie D5 and D6). This is not surprising when comparing sensors specs on PhotonstoPhotos.

Obviously - - image quality and relative success with action is fundamentally contingent on the lens - rather the lens system that work with the camera(s).

The D5 is far ahead with AFC performance and overall haptics (integral grip) etc, and Customization options are excellent. The Recall-Shooting Functions with much higher diversity of custom AF modes often makes a huge difference to managing challenges in contrasting/sudden action scenes, switching almost instantaneously to backlight/shadowed subjects etc, grabbing sharp eye focus etc etc. Exposure controls can be optimized to "hotkeys" similarly. Shooting banks widens these options further. And contingent on one's genres these pro cameras confer other advantages....

The D6 extends these advantages significantly - thanks to its new AF " engine" but not only. The emerging consensus of D6 owners is its performance realizes the olde saw of the "Whole being greater than the sum of the Parts" - thus, the realty shows up armchair theorists comparing the spec sheets. And these cameras are tough objects to damage.... (Bear in mind, however, a 20mp FX sensor is intolerant of major cropping!) If the conditions are defeating a D5 (D6 even more so) then the problem resides most likely in the 4" behind the camera sets the ultimate limits, of course.

Nevertheless, consistently getting the optimum performance in Image Quality of scene after scene...shooting for hours.... stands or falls on whether exposure and focus match contingent conditions. Advanced exposure and Autofocus + Customizable controls explains how the pro cameras are designed to maximize the ability of the Experienced Photographer to capture the proverbial "Unexpected Moment" .

This Triad (in the Yellow pyramid, below) is perhaps one way to think about how the AF and Haptics of the D5/D6 give one enduring support to reliably optimize IQ (a D850 is not far behind, poor light exempted). In contrast, all too often, the inferior AF capabilities and/or custom options in a D780 or Z6 miss the shot - ironic shortfalls considering their excellent sensors:

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Rent a D6 then a D850 in there lies the answer to your dilemma, you may find it easy to sell your D600 and D500, it is worth renting to see.
Only and opinion,
Oz Down Under

Thanks for your suggestion. Not rebutting but mention I have never owned a D600 and I bought the D850 twice, and simply disliked it.
Users here state that the D6 grabs focus quicker than the D5 (which is really fast and holds solid) and the focus is what Nikon boasts the most about regarding the D6. Toe tapping decisions.
Thank you for suggestions. Appreciated
 
Another thought regarding buying the D6: (Rangefinder Magazine 12-29-2020) Preparations to transfer production of both the Z6 and Z7 to Thailand already began in October, and by 2021 the flagship Nikon D6 will also be manufactured in the Thai facility.
Nikon is closing production within the Sendai Japan location.
I like Made in Japan on the flagship cameras, but I'm sure the quality will be equal
 
here's my 0.02c on the pros/cons of current cameras. I've been shooting Nikon since 1984, so continue to be amazed at the sheer excellence of today's cameras and optics. More recently I've used a D500 and Z7 alongside a D850. With mixed feelings, I traded in the D500 2+ years ago. Earlier this year I consolidated my FX system to a D850 and D780 - wildlife and some landscapes, also macro of inverts, herps etc. When funds and logistics permit, a Used D5 will replace the D780 (because I cannot afford a D6!).

And I'm waiting on Nikon upgrading the Z cameras to fix the weak arm in the triad of Haptics-Ergonomics // Autofocus // Image Quality. For my needs, where and when subjects demand, all too often gaps in Custom options of the Z6/Z7 prevent doing justice to the excellent sensors. (As with the D780, these gaps are especially inexcusable at these cameras' prices.)

D500 - cost effectively arguably the best camera for action genres, including relevant aspects of wildlife (eg BIF) with D5 AF engine

D850 (also Z7) - permits cropping and excellent quality. Future proofs almost all realistic options for printing. The diversity of Custom options in the D850 positions this camera far ahead of Zeds and most DSLRs. D500 has similar advantages

D780 - IQ is almost as good in lowlight as D5/D6, Z i-Menu useful. The Liveview is best performing yet on a DSLR ie silent shooting etc. The AFC is significantly better than Z6/Z7. Customization poor, which handicaps using AF modes efficiently.

It's further prosumer cameras (D780, Z6) with the modern 24mp sensors have excellent IQ, which is hard to brand inferior in lowlight compared to Pro models (ie D5 and D6). This is not surprising when comparing sensors specs on PhotonstoPhotos.

Obviously - - image quality and relative success with action is fundamentally contingent on the lens - rather the lens system that work with the camera(s).

The D5 is far ahead with AFC performance and overall haptics (integral grip) etc, and Customization options are excellent. The Recall-Shooting Functions with much higher diversity of custom AF modes often makes a huge difference to managing challenges in contrasting/sudden action scenes, switching almost instantaneously to backlight/shadowed subjects etc, grabbing sharp eye focus etc etc. Exposure controls can be optimized to "hotkeys" similarly. Shooting banks widens these options further. And contingent on one's genres these pro cameras confer other advantages....

The D6 extends these advantages significantly - thanks to its new AF " engine" but not only. The emerging consensus of D6 owners is its performance realizes the olde saw of the "Whole being greater than the sum of the Parts" - thus, the realty shows up armchair theorists comparing the spec sheets. And these cameras are tough objects to damage.... (Bear in mind, however, a 20mp FX sensor is intolerant of major cropping!) If the conditions are defeating a D5 (D6 even more so) then the problem resides most likely in the 4" behind the camera sets the ultimate limits, of course.

Nevertheless, consistently getting the optimum performance in Image Quality of scene after scene...shooting for hours.... stands or falls on whether exposure and focus match contingent conditions. The design of the pro cameras maximizes capturing the proverbial unexpected moment. This Triad is perhaps one way to think about how the AF and Haptics of the D5/D6 give one enduring support to reliably optimize IQ (a D850 is not far behind, poor light exempted). In contrast, all too often, the inferior AF capabilities and/or custom options in a D780 or Z6 miss the shot - ironic shortfalls considering their excellent sensors:

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Nice take on the subject, interesting to see and hear your views as well as others in this forum, I read a lot of them and cherry pick some nice points that become helpfull.
While I listen and read a lot I try and not to stray to far from the basics of photography, When I get the urge to buy something I use my mantra LOL to stay grounded...…….
"a camera only uses a combination of time light and speed to capture light, light being a photon made of red green and blue colours". ...............I now have added to this a second mantra I have always believed in and recently so well reminded of by Steve of BGF ..........."20% is the gear 80% is the person behind the camera that makes the photo". I find its important to keep me from me catching GAS disease LOL, I often think do we buy something because we have money, what if we didn't have money, would we look at what we have differently and apply that 80% of the skill set more. My nephews wife is hard working and raising 6 kids, she has no spare money ever, she was given a old Sigma zoom 150-500 and a Canon 6D, she had an old battered 70-200 2.8 that was broken she found in a Op shop where she shops for the kids, they gave it to her as they said it was donated and needed repair, she had a friend fix a switch that was stuck ( WD 40 would you believe it, washed the dirt away LOL" and he cleaned the contacts and yes it works, she leaves this gear on the floor around the house in the boot of the car no bag pack etc, bottom line it looks like its all been in a dog fight or two, She is amazing with her photography, I offered her some Nikon gear, she thanked me and said, No thankyou, its very generous of you, but its Nikon.

I loved my D4s D5 for the focus attack speed more notable in the rented D6, but missed the crop ability and IQ.
Would I buy any of these cameras today, the answer is,
a) Yes if the full time need was specifically for focus attack speed and ISO, b) No if the D850 can cover 90% of what I need.

To Date I have not missed any of these pro cameras, for the rare occasion I really need one I am happy to rent one or borrow one from a pro mate.
What I did was sold the D4s D5 and got 2xD850 and another lens, cash flow intact.

Looking back, I enjoyed some different cameras over time, D3s D4 D4s D5, my dearest old friend, my mate, that brings back so many wondaful memories, we did so many wild journeys together, and it never let me down, my friend that still lives with me today in its so called old age LOL is my D3X. Surprised A D3X he says, Rock solid ever dependable, rain, snow, mud, surf spray, falling down a steep wet slippery hill side in the forest laying in mud in the rain, it just delivered like a swiss clock LOl.
Love the forums and yes I make a typo here and there so I apologise.
Light comes from nature, a flash, a torch, or glass, isn't it amazing how it seems to make all cameras a lenses look similar.

Oz down under
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