I can see why! Nicely done!$2800 for the 400 4.5 is pretty great. That's alot of lens for that price. Love mine to pieces.
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I can see why! Nicely done!$2800 for the 400 4.5 is pretty great. That's alot of lens for that price. Love mine to pieces.
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Could very well be the case. I just wasn’t interested in dealing with returning the soft copy, testing a new one and potentially returning it when I have an acceptable, although MF, substitute.Must be your copy of the Viltrox lens that is soft, my copy is sharp. Been using it for Milky Way astrophotgraphy.
So, are you implying that increased demand would cause prices to go down?
I'm thinking that demand is actually down, or that supply has overcorrected from the recent past and is very high. When I last visited the nearest B&M camera store, their inventory was higher than I've seen it for a very long time. Across all brands, for both cameras and lenses.
What these often bring about are, in my views, less of a paradox, and more of a good old-fashioned unexpected reaction.In my experience, things like tariffs, real or threatened, cause major market distortions. They alter the behavior of both consumers and producers in ways that seem paradoxical.
It will be interesting to look back at this in 6 months to see what’s really happening.
That's strange I've never noticed any CA in any of my 400mm f4.5 shots. Granted I have software corrections on but I'm not sure why those would ever not be on....The 600 PF is super though I’m intrigued to learn why the 186 isn’t in consideration? I’ve owned the 400 f/4.5 twice and have sold it each time. The MFD and CA ruined an otherwise good lens. Shoot a backlit scene once and you’ll hate this lens.
The fringing was terrible in any backlighting or objects against the sky - think branches. Very strong purple and simply awful with the 1.4x TC making it unusable. I had posted images in another thread and will see if I can find them. It may have been the copy though I've seen reviews where they note awful fringing with TC's.That's strange I've never noticed any CA in any of my 400mm f4.5 shots. Granted I have software corrections on but I'm not sure why those would ever not be on....
Couldn't be more opposite to my experience with backlighting and the 400/4.5. This is with the 1.4TC, too.The fringing was terrible in any backlighting or objects against the sky - think branches. Very strong purple and simply awful with the 1.4x TC making it unusable. I had posted images in another thread and will see if I can find them. It may have been the copy though I've seen reviews where they note awful fringing with TC's.
Same experience, made the return after 10 daysThe fringing was terrible in any backlighting or objects against the sky - think branches. Very strong purple and simply awful with the 1.4x TC making it unusable. I had posted images in another thread and will see if I can find them. It may have been the copy though I've seen reviews where they note awful fringing with TC's.
Did you get another copy, or a refund?Same experience, made the return after 10 days![]()
Thanks, I did not notice that at first!Hi Greg - I included the link for BH right below my call to use it - here it is:
https://bhpho.to/461XgHx
Just click on that link, then shop and drop whatever you want into your cart and buy it - Steve should get the "finder's fee"
But you can find all of Steve's affliate links etc. on the Donations page - it's Menu link at the top of this (and every) page.
My understanding of the way BH's affliate program (and Amazon's) work is that if you start shopping using an affliate link, whatever you buy [during that visit] gets credited to the affliate - even if you shop around for hrs. I hope that the affliate credit sticks when I add something to a wish list - it should, but it's impossible to know the internals of their system (which could change at any time anyway).
Cheers!
Your image is not typical of those which leads to CA. On the 400, I commonly encountered it in situations of branches against the sky or contrasty light. The CA doesn't occur with my 180-600. Also, the copy of the 400 f/4.5 I purchased and returned suffered from distortion towards the edges. It was not de-centered, but the distortion was troubling. Perhaps it was a Nikon QC thing and it could have been particular to the copy I purchased?Couldn't be more opposite to my experience with backlighting and the 400/4.5. This is with the 1.4TC, too.
Refunded and got 400ZtcDid you get another copy, or a refund?
Well, that's a nice upgrade!Refunded and got 400Ztc
Couldn't be more opposite to my experience with backlighting and the 400/4.5. This is with the 1.4TC, too.
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I wish. I would love to have bought the 180-600. But at my age and fitness level the added weight vs the 600 PF was a real negative. The difference in image quality was more than acceptable to me. The difference between getting the shot and missing the shot was THE factor in my buying the 600 PF. While I still do miss shots I'm very able to carry it around and hand hold with reasonably good results.Maybe the PF lenses are not selling as well as they’d like. We’ve likely got a point where the majority moving to mirrorless have and already bought the lenses intended. My guess is the high priced primes sales have seriously slowed.
High price lenses like the PF are in a weird spot as the buyers of the “best” will probably go for the TC primes while the “good enough” crowd buy the 180-600 and stop there. The PF line is still really expensive for most camera buyers and the difference between the 180-600 and 600/400 is not night and day for a quality difference for normal people comparing. The average person looking at images from either probably can’t tell them apart.
I wonder just how big the pool of potential buyers for PF is given Nikons market share and the TC buyers who won’t bother with them and the 180-600 crowd who can’t becuase it’s a huge financial strain or won’t because they are just happy enough with that lens and can’t justify the price/performance difference.
I'm all kinds of back and forth between the two. The VR and AF improvements are nice as well as weather sealing and internal zoom over the Sigma 150-600C, but the optical performance kind of disappointed me. I could have been really lucky with the 150-600C and got a really good one at the long end but it's sort of a great optical lens without all the other nice things the 180-600 brings, it's also noisy by a lot in comparison which is really bad in a quiet woodland trying to take photo's of things that spook easily. AF-C is quite noisy on it and you can hear the aperture closing down at smaller f stops very easily, none of that is the case with the 180-600.I wish. I would love to have bought the 180-600. But at my age and fitness level the added weight vs the 600 PF was a real negative. The difference in image quality was more than acceptable to me. The difference between getting the shot and missing the shot was THE factor in my buying the 600 PF. While I still do miss shots I'm very able to carry it around and hand hold with reasonably good results.
And to add insult to injury, I bought mine around labor day last year when it was on sale for $4300. Less than 6 months later it's $500 less. Ouch! If I were still considering the 600 PF today I'd be all over that sale price now.