Image numbers but not shutter count/actuations, at least for Nikons.
Yes but that poster was suggesting looking in photoshop at the image number to find out the shutter count. I was just saying If it was reset that might not always work.
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Image numbers but not shutter count/actuations, at least for Nikons.
I think the Z7ii reports both electronic shutter and mechanical shutter in separate numbers.The z7ii does have a mechanical shutter too. No way to tell how many of each have been shot.
I fell asleep before I got to the end of the file Was the shutter count buried in there somewhere?using ExifTool you can see Shuttercount and mechanical shuttercount ... the first registers the images taken by the sensor
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I agree with your concern and desire to know the shutter count although I don't know how telltale that number would be if, in the extreme case, one always took photos with the burst rate at 120/secI've been in touch with a couple of reputable retailers regarding used mirrorless cameras advertised on their websites. I couldn't find anywhere which showed the shuttercount which I use as a guide to how much use the camera has had. I contacted both of them and said that the shuttercount gives me some idea as to whether the previous owner was an light-user amateur or heavy-user professional. Both of the retailers said that they weren't able to give me that information but that the items I was interested in had been fully refurbished and were in mint condition. As the items have been fully refurbished and come with a one-year warranty, am I being over-cautious in needing a shutter-count? I look forward to your comments.
Adding to what @Patrick M said above, if a reputable dealer describes the equipment as in mint condition and we know a mirrorless camera has no mechanical shutter to wear out, you are probably good to purchase the product, especially if it comes with a 1-year warranty.
A lot ofAdding to what @Patrick M said above, if a reputable dealer describes the equipment as in mint condition and we know a mirrorless camera has no mechanical shutter to wear out, you are probably good to purchase the product, especially if it comes with a 1-year warranty.
I've just hit the keys and ordered the kit from Nikon's website. I've got a 14-day period in which I can return free-of-charge it if not satisfied. I'll use the links you've kindly sent me to check the shuttercount. If it's too high I'll send the kit back for a refund. Many thanks to everyone for their help. It's very much appreciated.
As others have noted Z7II has a mechanical shutter. In fact I think all Z's except the Z9 and Z8 have mechanical shutters.I've bought the Z7ii + 24-120 kit. It'll be interesting to see how it compares with my trusty D800 and F-mount 24-120.
Used Photo Pro often includes the shutter count on their bodies.If I'm not mistaken the only used dealers I'm aware of (US), or at least had dealings with, that publishes the shutter count is MPB. They show the shutter count on their used DSLR body's but not mirrorless. I can't remember why not on mirrorless but you can check out their FAQ page and they explain it. I don't think KEH has ever published shutter counts.
Very recently I traded with MPB for a LN Nikon Z6 II. When I received the camera I put a lens on and took a picture to get the shutter count. That picture was the 1,900th actuation. Not sure if Nikon counts all actuations, mechanical and electronic or just mechanical but I was pleased. Now if it would have been some sort of high shutter count or something ridiculous like 100,000 then I would have just exercised my 30 day return option. I would like to know the shutter count before I order but I think those days are gone with mirrorless and now mirrorless with no mechanical shutters at all. $0.02