Official Nikon Z9 Launch, Info, and Discussion Thread

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Wes Peterson said:
One last point about Fros report and the missed shot.... he may have had auto subject detection on as well. If that's the case the camera is likely looking for all sorts of objects including birds and cars lol and could easily be confused. The reality of it is a basketball is shaped very much like a head and the fact that the focus jumped to it shouldnt surprise anyone. I just dont think there is much to be made of a couple missed shots at f1.2 over the course of an entire game.
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Im not too worried, but hopefully the manual or others can let me know how to set it up if Im photographing birds so its optimal and worries only about the bird.
 
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Darwin said:
I was thinking about that, but, it wouldn't be worth it. Would have to sell for over $6700 just to turn a profit with eBay fees, not to mention the risk of a negative interaction with the seller.
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If I was in that situation with more than one Z9 being simultaneously shipped, I would either sell the extra at cost to a close friend, or just return it to the store. Having to deal with eBay risks and their fees is not worth it.
 
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Hut2 said:
Does the FTZ cause increased vignetting? Looking at Jared's distant Eagle in the sky shots it is present with the 600 f/4. I didn't pay much attention until I saw it mentioned in comments.

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I've never had any added vignetting with the FTZ. A lot depends though on how he processed the RAW file if he was shooting RAW. Also is the adapted 600 f/4 a Nikon or is he adapting a Sony/Canon? There might not be a Z9 camera profile available yet in whatever software he uses especially if the lens isn't a Nikon.
 
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I tested the Z9 with an adapted 500mm F4 glass and I didn't notice such vignetting. I just had 30 mins with the camera but had slightly more co-operative wildlife subjects :)

Edit: I may have to take a closer look at the raw files i have from that shoot and report back if I see anything.

Blue sky with a small dark subject in the middle is not a good image to assess vignetting. It could be simply because of one of the metering modes.

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Does the FTZ cause increased vignetting? Looking at Jared's distant Eagle in the sky shots it is present with the 600 f/4. I didn't pay much attention until I saw it mentioned in comments.

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I tested the Z9 with an adapted 500mm F4 glass and I didn't notice such vignetting. I just had 30 mins with the camera but had slightly more co-operative wildlife subjects :)

Edit: I may have to take a closer look at the raw files i have from that shoot and report back if I see anything.

Blue sky with a small dark subject in the middle is not a good image to assess vignetting. It could be simply because of one of the metering modes.
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What were your thoughts in the brief test?
 
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lwan said:
If you want to relax, I don't know how is that but there is a cooking channel filming recipes with a Z9 here: https://www.youtube.com/c/ppuppuworld/videos
Related and relaxing.
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I... is this for real? I mean, the description/titles do say "Filmed with the Z9 in 8K", but but... I don't understand, honestly. This is not what you buy the Z9 for, unless it's really really really for the 8K. But outside of that, cameras on the market for 4-5 years would be good enough to focus on the lemons being chopped up and the sugar being poured on them.

I feel a bit better about my Z9 order now, even if I'm not a BIF shooter. Actually, much better 🤣
 
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Hut2 said:
Does the FTZ cause increased vignetting? Looking at Jared's distant Eagle in the sky shots it is present with the 600 f/4. I didn't pay much attention until I saw it mentioned in comments.

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I can understand Jarrod's attempt to show a situation of vignetting the way he has, how ever it also may have to do with his settings.
Why you would want to shoot like this i don't know. You could do this with a D850 or Z7 Z7 II, D800 D810 D7800 D71000 why would you even need tracking are we that lazy or lacking skill.
 
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I think that eye tracking and facial recognition has its place and benefits...and yes Steve says the A1 is the best camera so far he has ever used, i respect this 100%.

I feel the whole market is a little over hyped, tracking war, video war, so many reviewers content now is part stills part video and the video part is gone from 10% content to 40% plus............Northrup for example and Jarred Polan..........

So there is an element of good new technology for stills now and yes things are changing for the better for many of us, but gee its a little overdone and its not all utopia as it seems

Reviewers needs to nit pick to have an edge on ranking in Google............this all adds to the hype.

Ask one self why cant you get similar results with what you have, or is it that we have not enough skills to do so......

I am all for progress and new innovation i just think its just a little over done and some of the cameras are a little over rated, i mean they release a new model and in no time are up to version 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,.................

What the camera companies are largely selling us is Change which will become more frequent...........this provides volume sales in a dangerously shrinking market................lest not loose sight of things and that's photography..............dont become a recorder...............

Happy days
 
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Hut2 said:
I am using Mark Smith as an example. When he switched from D850 to some other brand with Eye AF and tracking his quality went up drastically imo. Were the old ones good enough? Yes! but the new ones are better, sharper, cleaner overall. You can go through his IG account and see the difference.
He has a Z9 on order. I look forward to seeing his results. I don't expect them to be significantly better or worse than what he is shooting now though. But it is awesome to see it! IMHO
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Good to know thankyou, it is a nice capture, i am not worried about bleeding eye sharpness.........as the image is powerfull that makes you look right past that.
 
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Hut2 said:
*disclaimer- I am not posting this to bad mouth Nikon.

He is shooting Sony Alpha these days but has publicly stated he has a Z9 on order. He shared a video of his hat and letter.
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Thanks for that i figured it would have to be the A1, and i think the A1 is excellent from what you say, Steve has said and others.........even Thom, although he prefers his D6 for sports action as its sticker.

So if he is Sony why the switch back to Z9 or is that going to be a duel system.........
 
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Hut2 said:
It would be funny if people that preorder at 5 different places get them all mailed out at once and end up owing 30 grand…lol
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Why I only have one order with my card ready to be charged B&H and then one later with my favorite camera store here in Idaho. They just took my name no card and said they would call me as soon as they filled NPS orders and I came up on their list. They told me no worries if I get one elsewhere before they have one since they are sure they can sell all they can get for the first year. What they did for the 850 and I got it months before many.
 
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Wes Peterson said:
Most likely one of his fropack presets lol
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I do not know about the FTZ adapter but the 600 f/4 E ... is fairly well known for vignette in the corners. On the D6 I had the Vignette control set to High and still had a bit in one corner on birds in blue sky. On the D850 with vignette control on High it seems to not have any problems. And yeah who knows what he did with one of his funky presets.
 
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Hut2 said:
Did you bother to read it? He said it was a bust to photograph eagles, which happens in real world. He was not trying to show vignetting, that is just an observation.

Once Mark Smith receives his Z9 we will see some better examples. I actually suggested that Fro collaborate with Mark Smith because Mark gets the birds.
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I think that eye tracking and facial recognition has its place and benefits...and yes Steve says the A1 is the best camera so far he has ever used, i respect this 100%.

I feel the whole market is a little over hyped, tracking war, video war, so many reviewers content now is part stills part video and the video part is gone from 10% content to 40% plus............Northrup for example and Jarred Polan..........

So there is an element of good new technology for stills now and yes things are changing for the better for many of us, but gee its a little overdone and its not all utopia as it seems

Reviewers needs to nit pick to have an edge on ranking in Google............this all adds to the hype.

Ask one self why cant you get similar results with what you have, or is it that we have not enough skills to do so......

I am all for progress and new innovation i just think its just a little over done and some of the cameras are a little over rated, i mean they release a new model and in no time are up to version 2, 3, 4, 5, 6,.................

What the camera companies are largely selling us is Change which will become more frequent...........this provides volume sales in a dangerously shrinking market................lest not loose sight of things and that's photography..............dont become a recorder...............

Happy days
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Video is a big deal even for wildlife for me & I am certain it will be for others too over time. The change is happening as we speak.

Mark Smith's videos are a great example. I just don't want to photograph an Osprey I wanna shoot crystal clear footage of them diving & hunting.

Often our creativity is limited by what we shoot with or the tech (good video Af, computers to process such data, high resolution in 120 fps) available.

Now that video AF is getting better, expect more people to aspire to shoot BBC level short wildlife clips.


Wildlife videos made by BBC & Nat Geo got me into appreciating animals & photographing animals...

So with mirrorless, video is better & possible.

I know most here are not bothered to shoot video. I am certain half of you will aspire to shoot video in 2-3 years time.

The change is already happening in Instagram, a great proxy for trends. I am talking about short wildlife videos on Instagram. It is not just about algorithms favouring reels & vids. People actually are shooting more wildlife videos because they can & it is awesome. The number of such vids has gone up 20-30x at the least in the 1 year I presume. Many reasons led to it, but chief among them are mirrorless cameras...

We can expect 4k at 960 FPS with far better AF in a decade.

BBC uses Red cameras with such high frame rates to shoot wildlife videos. If I am not wrong, they do a lot of manual focus. The cinematographers are so good.

Now imagine, video AF improving & getting on par with stills AF.

Oh there is plenty of room for new tech...

Of all the award winning wildlife photos that I have seen, nothing has come close to making me go awestruck like Planet Earth II or a few recent BBC shows. That's the power of video.

So, hybrid shooting will be the future. Personally I am more keen to shoot video than photos especially when I know I am going to get the same composition that anybody possibly can get.
 
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Video is a big deal even for wildlife for me & I am certain it will be for others too over time. The change is happening as we speak.

Mark Smith's videos are a great example. I just don't want to photograph an Osprey I wanna shoot crystal clear footage of them diving & hunting.

Often our creativity is limited by what we shoot with or the tech (good video Af, computers to process such data, high resolution in 120 fps) available.

Now that video AF is getting better, expect more people to aspire to shoot BBC level short wildlife clips.


Wildlife videos made by BBC & Nat Geo got me into appreciating animals & photographing animals...

So with mirrorless, video is better & possible.

I know most here are not bothered to shoot video. I am certain half of you will aspire to shoot video in 2-3 years time.

The change is already happening in Instagram, a great proxy for trends. I am talking about short wildlife videos on Instagram. It is not just about algorithms favouring reels & vids. People actually are shooting more wildlife videos because they can & it is awesome. The number of such vids has gone up 20-30x at the least in the 1 year I presume. Many reasons led to it, but chief among them are mirrorless cameras...

We can expect 4k at 960 FPS with far better AF in a decade.

BBC uses Red cameras with such high frame rates to shoot wildlife videos. If I am not wrong, they do a lot of manual focus. The cinematographers are so good.

Now imagine, video AF improving & getting on par with stills AF.

Oh there is plenty of room for new tech...

Of all the award winning wildlife photos that I have seen, nothing has come close to making me go awestruck like Planet Earth II or a few recent BBC shows. That's the power of video.

So, hybrid shooting will be the future. Personally I am more keen to shoot video than photos especially when I know I am going to get the same composition that anybody possibly can get.
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Video is fun for me to watch and is a combo of many things ... good microphones ... noise free very smooth focusing lenses ... fluid heads for support etc.. I played with it have the Rode mikes and other gear and took a few pretty good videos but did not enjoy doing it so I just quit. If I want a video it is surpising what my I phone 11 pro will do and even have a DJI OSMO powered gimbal etc. took classes shot some fun stuff still not my thing. So I have done viedeo for about 3 years.

But I am so old fashioned I did Instagram and did not like it's phone focus. So I decided to focus on what I liked, and not what sold, gathered followers, monotized you tube or instagram etc.. after all I am retired :) So for me my thing is birding and bird ID photography and a few other wildlife and occasional found images. I still believe in never saying never and never saying always :) However I doubt if at 73 I will ever go back to any form of serious video. But as you I do appreciate Nature etc... but I will leave that up to others to do for me to enjoy. So video not a serious concern for "me" when looking at a camera.
 
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